Byzantium believes that Ottoman imposition of terms is blatantly imperialist and protests their involvment in a conflict with which the Empire has nothing to do. Abyssinia and Sennar are having their own little war: let them stay in it without foreign intervention. Widening a war with your troops will only make the situation worse, not better.
NES2 VI - Last Semblance of Order.
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It is not imperialistic, we are supporting our ally, who is on the defensive. Our influence is as a supervisor and advisor. Our suggestions of military involvement are simply to convince the aggressors that we are made of more than words.
This Treaty is to ensure peace in the future, not to increase the worldwide imperial standing of the Ottomans.
If the Byzantines support the Abyssinians simply because of Christianity, or because they dislike seeing the Ottoman Empire doing anything productive, then they can feel free to admit it.
This Treaty is to ensure peace in the future, not to increase the worldwide imperial standing of the Ottomans.
If the Byzantines support the Abyssinians simply because of Christianity, or because they dislike seeing the Ottoman Empire doing anything productive, then they can feel free to admit it.
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An undisclosed source says that the Ottos ought to be able to help their puppet if they want. 
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
Sennar is a puppet of Ottoma and well within Ottoman sphere of influence, so bugger off
King Badi IV signs the treaty and hopes that peace between african nations will be longer lasting
King Badi IV signs the treaty and hopes that peace between african nations will be longer lasting
Insane_Panda
Deity
We will return the city at the price of 2 economic points.
MjM
Deity
TTYT, I forgot. :/ Since Im still alive, yes.
Wubba360
Emperor
This matter does not consider you Ottomans. I was vein enough to withdraw in the last war. But I do say that we will not be turned back from our destiny again. To withdraw would let all the death of such great Christians all be in vein. I will not withdraw from the land won. Those are now official Abyssanian Lands. They will remain in my hands, so if you want to avoid this war going on anylonger you better come up with a better treaty. Because today the fish ain't biting.
And let me remind you It has been the corrupt rule of such a procrastinator as the King that caused this downfall. It was he who neglected the people. He brought such a rebellion upon himself. These are time of enlightment and moving forward. Humanity has always been doing this. This war is the next step for Africa in this endless journey. Abyssania acted upon the needs of the people who were being subjugated by cruelty. I am ready to crush this government, but I still believe in rights and may be benevolent enough to grant Muslims freedom of worship, but your ruler has done little for my peoples freedom. Now don't let the rags of such insolence grace my court until a just treaty is written up. Sir you are dismissed.
And let me remind you It has been the corrupt rule of such a procrastinator as the King that caused this downfall. It was he who neglected the people. He brought such a rebellion upon himself. These are time of enlightment and moving forward. Humanity has always been doing this. This war is the next step for Africa in this endless journey. Abyssania acted upon the needs of the people who were being subjugated by cruelty. I am ready to crush this government, but I still believe in rights and may be benevolent enough to grant Muslims freedom of worship, but your ruler has done little for my peoples freedom. Now don't let the rags of such insolence grace my court until a just treaty is written up. Sir you are dismissed.
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OOC: Wehell. The Great Game begins...
Disenfrancised
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Wubba360 said:
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@NK: So we have what...6-7 turns to prepare for the war to end wars - based on the course of NES2V?
@SymphonyD : Ooo please roll out the story machine, I always liked your ITNES ones...
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
you piss me off you know that wubba? cause you better be playign IC, you better be
@ Ottomans: We are a bit miffed at your suggestion that we are doing this to keep you from being productive. We do not recall ever being against a productive Ottoman empire...But, we do support the Abyssinians partly because of Christianity, and partly because we believe that it would be wrong for you to intervene, morally in any case. If you wish to fight the Abyssinians because your puppet in the south is failing, we will try to negotiate you away from such a course. There is no reason that the war should widen. If you wish to do so, and simply beat up on smaller countries, then you are treading into territory that we can simply not allow you into.
OOC: You're just a fifth-grader beating up on the kindergarteners who are having a little thumbwar. For Pete's sake, knock it off. Let them have their war. Don't widen the conflict. I really don't want a war.
OOC: You're just a fifth-grader beating up on the kindergarteners who are having a little thumbwar. For Pete's sake, knock it off. Let them have their war. Don't widen the conflict. I really don't want a war.
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Disenfranchised said:
Nah. Not quite that long... I'm guessing more like 5 turns.
Mainly because we have the hot blooded ones in control right from the start, instead of my moderating influence (<--egotistical statement, please do not take it seriously; I'm never serious in my egotistical statements. Especially since I started a war on turn two in that NES. ).Dachspmg said:
Um... I know?
I was in it.
I was referring to the actual origin of the phrase, albeit applying it to a different continent.The Ottomans are protecting their ally. It's not at all unusual, or bullying.
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
wow, talk about blown out of proportion
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
I forsee a Sennar-Swedish-Andorran invasion of Portugal being heroically turned back by Platines and Piedmontese.
My eyes are slowly healing, yes! Soon I can write my stories...
My eyes are slowly healing, yes! Soon I can write my stories...
Wubba360
Emperor
Kentharu said:
Well you were treading on thin ice the second you trusted your sworn enemy. I mean seriously. In our backgrounds we are incouraged to fight eachother! So take this war like a man and except defeat. Don't be the kid who rats out all the other kids to the teacher. In the end the other kids always get revenge when the teacher isn't looking
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
i trust to much, but then again, i make up my mind to quickly
screw you wubba
p.s. please don't reply to this cause ill get angrier so yea... i dun wanna get warned!
screw you wubba
p.s. please don't reply to this cause ill get angrier so yea... i dun wanna get warned!
Then don't get into this.
To: Abyssinia
From: Ottoman Empire
We will give your situation some thought. While we do not want war, we will aid Sennar if this war continues.
OOC: I did say that the treaty could be negotiated by you. It's just a jumping off point.
