NES2 VI - Last Semblance of Order.

[das]

I certainly don't recall killing them off in such large numbers, so I probably just forgot to add them in the first place.

 

[stalin006]

From: Denmark-Norway
To: Germany
We would be very interested in participating in such research provided it will benefit the entire world. We will also provide buildings in Copenhagen for such research. We believe it would be more beneficial to have several teams of scientists working on it in seperate places and then meet perhaps 3 times a year to discuss their progress and inspire each other. This way we won't have one group focusing on just one or two ideas, but several groups focusing on several different ideas and still sharing their progress.
We could set it up in Lisbon, Vienna and Copenhagen.

OOC: this is a project, you are building a project already.

To Denmark-Norway:
From Germany:
This is an open research program, scientists do not have to be in vienna all the time, they can do their own research and hypotesis in their native countries, however we have built the institute in vienna and already spent many marks, we hope that it is used at least as the center and core of the development of a cure, or a preventive antidote (vaccine).

Thank you for your support

 

[stalin006]

OOC: If Germ theory is sorted yet then this is a good idea - if not we will waste one heck of alot of time.

To: Germany
From: The EUA

This is a most noble endevour you have embarked on, and we salute your desire to better all humanity. We will send what aid and study we can, but our most valueble contribution will be the providing of samples taken from many geographic areas, as well as what we can uncover of the most terrible plagues that date from the arrival of the europeans in the Americas.

This is very good news, we are already receiving samples of small pox from africa and south america from the Portuguese, N. American samples will help us too. If we can see that this disease is the same around the world, then perhaps a cure, or preventive antidote (vaccine, altough that words root come s from the actual small pox vaccine).

If indeed we are to develop our goal, then it will be for us to go ahead and try to completely eradicate the disease world wide.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

With the fall of the old Kingdom and the arising of the new maybe better relationships can be attained.

First, Freedom Religion in both countries.

Sennar become a Republic, with their own written up constitution. Rajab I will be the first President as I see that you wish him to lead.

Current Borders.

3 year Nap with open trade and free passage of Abyssanians down the Nile as well as acess to Alexandria. This NAP will apply to both the Ottomans and Sennar.

For now I hope this will do. Perhaps in the future we can further our efforts for a better relation.

Unfortunately, Sennar does not wish to sign this treaty. As the Ottoman Empire has said before, we are here to help Sennar. You did not aid in putting an uncorrupt leader in place before, and now there is one. And he is ambitious.

The Ottoman Empire will not actively seek combat with your forces, but I do not doubt that Sennar will.

To: Germany
From: Sultan Suleiman III of the Ottoman Empire
My younger half-brother died of smallpox when I was barely 8 years of age. And many other people are struck down with this disease every year. We shall send aid and scientists.

 

[Disenfrancised]

This is very good news, we are already receiving samples of small pox from africa and south america from the Portuguese, N. American samples will help us too. If we can see that this disease is the same around the world, then perhaps a cure, or preventive antidote (vaccine, altough that words root come s from the actual small pox vaccine).

If indeed we are to develop our goal, then it will be for us to go ahead and try to completely eradicate the disease world wide.

OCC:
ALthough technically the actual smallpox cure should be refered to as an equinnation for "from the horse" rather than "from the cow" as Jenners test case was (the actual cure used globally was horse derived).

btw even if a cure is developed the production base necessary to eliminate the disease globaly will take decades to produce, and its not really a problem you can just throw money at either ...

 

[Cuivienen]

I'm not rebelling to succeed, I'm rebeling because that will spice things up a bit in the Far East. I was bored with Finland, leading another rebellion will be fun, even if it fails.

Tibet, however, was very loyal to the Chinese during the early Qing era. You'll have more than some difficulty.

 

[Reno]

Tibet, however, was very loyal to the Chinese during the early Qing era. You'll have more than some difficulty.

As I said to Alex, I'm not rebelling to succeed, but just for the fun of it. To do something exciting again in this NES.

 

[Cuivienen]

TO: International Community
FROM: Empire of Japan

In light of the Imperial Republic of China's declaration of its intended claims we have modified our claim to form the shortest possible border with both the IRL and the undefined area out of security reasons, and so put forth the following situational map as to the current stats of claims in East Asia:

The resulting unclaimed region is a potential source of future instability and its status will hopefully be cleared up shortly.

To: Japan and everyone else
From: The Shixia Emperor of the Imperial Republic of the Chinese

China wants no part of those resource-poor and people-poor regions, may they blight some other nation.

 

[Cuivienen]

As I said to Alex, I'm not rebelling to succeed, but just for the fun of it. To do something exciting again in this NES.

OOC: Why not rebel against someone who actually needs to be weakened, like Portugal or France?

 

[Reno]

OOC: Why not rebel against someone who actually needs to be weakened, like Portugal or France?

OOC: Where's the fun in that?

Don't worry once my rebellion either succeeds in establishing Tibet or get's beaten badly, I'll make a new rebellion somewhere.

 

[Cuivienen]

France is willing to either create an independent Burmese state, sans Rangoon, or giving such regions to the Mughal Empire.

To: France and everyone else
From: The Shixia Emperor of the Imperial Republic of the Chinese

The Emperor and the People acknowledge an independent state of Burma.

 

[Cuivienen]

To: People of Tibet
From: The Shixia Emperor of the Imperial Republic of the Chinese

While we know that the Tibetan people have long been loyal and respectable citizens of China, there has been some agitation of late for the independence of Tibet. The Emperor and the People therefore offer to you the possibility of conducting a plebiscite in your nation to determine your future as soon as the Chinese military can arrive to monitor the situation.

 

[tossi]

OOC: Why not rebel against someone who actually needs to be weakened, like Portugal or France?

Haha funny! Try Brazil!

 

[Reno]

OOC: Hmm, voting for the independence... Well, if that establishes Tibet faster, I'll go along.

IC:

To: The Shixia Emperor of the Imperial Republic of the Chinese
From: Panchen Lama Lobsang Yeshi (The Dalai Lama is a puppet, so the second in command will be mine.)

I support your effort in giving the Tibetan people a say in it's internal matters, what ever the outcome, I hope good relations will continue between China and Tibet.

 

[das]

Plebiscites in Tibet, especially in this time period, might be somewhat difficult...

 

[stalin006]

OCC:
ALthough technically the actual smallpox cure should be refered to as an equinnation for "from the horse" rather than "from the cow" as Jenners test case was (the actual cure used globally was horse derived).

btw even if a cure is developed the production base necessary to eliminate the disease globaly will take decades to produce, and its not really a problem you can just throw money at either ...

OOC: "Eradication

Jenner said, "The annihilation of smallpox - the dreadful scourge of the human race - will be the final result of vaccination." Jenner's dream was ultimately realized. Around the world, attempts would be made to annihilate smallpox. In 1842, England banned inoculation, later progressing to mandatory vaccination instead. In the United States, from 1843 to 1855 first Massachusetts, and then other states required vaccination. This alteration in the relationship of State to citizen was not universally approved. Protests notwithstanding, coordinated efforts against smallpox went on and the disease continued to diminish in the wealthy countries. In poorer countries, vaccines and the necessary infrastructure were less affordable and available."

we can take the alternate historical route, i am sure.

 

[Reno]

Plebiscites in Tibet, especially in this time period, might be somewhat difficult...

Indeed, but still much less blood spilled then rebelling.

 

[stalin006]

To the World:
From Germany:

There is doubt about the possibilities of our program, but if indeed we develop a cure or vaccine, it can be eradicated, but only if there is total co-operation between the nations of this earth. The great powers can afford to institutionalize it, but as a society of nations, we must also start thinking for a fundation to collect funds to accomplish such goal of aiding second and third world countries that cant fully afford it.

 

[Cuivienen]

Plebiscites in Tibet, especially in this time period, might be somewhat difficult...

Not worse than Chile would have been. In any case, voting will take place only in the cities, so anyone wishing to express an opinion must come to the cities.

 

[Reno]

OOC: Now that I've thought about things, I'll rebel against Xian Han China as Tibet, overthrow the current Dalai Lama (Who is puppet to Xian Han). And then allow for the referendum to be held, with Nan Chinese troops present if they so wish. that way it will still be somewhat exciting and it will get the voting overwith sooner.