NES2 VIb - Return of the Chaos.

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To: Japan
From: China

Do not be foolish, Do you honestly think that you can keep and hold a nation whose population is many many times yours? You have already established the fact that you are the hedgemon of East Asia. All you're doing now is wasting countless resources and time attempting to maintain order in China. (what is the population of china in this timeline now anyway) You can destroy our army, and even our dynasty, but in the end you will just repeat the steps the mongols took; You will be the one assimilated.

@ Das, i think you should take the size and military upkeep rule as well, as it IS unlikely to maintain such a huge army without costs.
 
TO: Xin Han Chinese Empire
FROM: Japanese Empire

China has a fetish for spitting out useless rhetoric everytime it's losing a war, it seems. You are the fools. We allowed you to continue existing once before, and you have betrayed us just as we expected. If you think we would be so stupid as to fall for such a thing again, you are very sadly mistaken. The Xin Han Dynasty has had its chance and it is done, now and forever. You will either voluntarily dismantle your government and admit Unconditional Surrender to terms we dictate or we will pursue our present course of action until we have achieved that result by force. Failure to comply will only result in the further suffering of your people.

@ Das, i think you should take the size and military upkeep rule as well, as it IS unlikely to maintain such a huge army without costs.
OOC: PRC gets along just fine with 27 Million men. :p Financing an army that sets around doing little in the modern age (1850 on) isn't hard. Its the equipment and logistics that are expensive. Hence the rise of large, standing armies (which in the time of DisNES II are still somewhat uncommon, historically, even acknowleding that it's an alt-hist).
 
Symph, I need a reply to my diplo
 
I think the lack of reply is quite sufficient to convey my message. Unless you'd care to surrender everything east of the Lena, and make peace terms with the Holy Roman Empire's alliance, I have nothing to discuss.
 
I have returned foolish mortals mwhahahahahaha!!!! :evil: I always regreted not joining this before. Hopefully if das will allow me to inact my new plan and a certain power does not squash me I might just finally get in on the ground floor for this. Time to go plan, and man is it good to be back!
 
KrimzonStriker said:
I have returned foolish mortals mwhahahahahaha!!!! :evil: I always regreted not joining this before. Hopefully if das will allow me to inact my new plan and a certain power does not squash me I might just finally get in on the ground floor for this. Time to go plan, and man is it good to be back!

If you're another bloody rebellion in HRE and/or allied states, then you're not welcome; it's not that they aren't easy to crush, it's more that they're utterly uncreative. :p
 
Ehhh you might be right and you might be wrong, but I am going to try for something a little different, that you can count on. ;)
 
North King said:
If you're another bloody rebellion in HRE and/or allied states, then you're not welcome; it's not that they aren't easy to crush, it's more that they're utterly uncreative. :p

Agreed.

Well, except the south that is...

But we're the only ones (other than the canucks and frontiere, who wouldn't exist were it not for me) who have succeeded so far.
 
TO: The International Community
FROM: The Holy Roman Empire [of the French Nation]


We announce the re-affirmation of the Japanese-Imperial Defensive Alliance to restore order to the world and to bring down the menace of both Russian and Chinese aggression and re-establish balance to the order of things. In this vein, we pledge our unconditional support to the Japanese Empire in its campaigns against the tyrannical and treacherous Xin Han Empire.

TO: The Russian Union
FROM: The Holy Roman Empire [of the French Nation]


The betrayals of our allies shall not save you. Byzantium, as Germany before, shall collapse, and you shall be left alone, and shall be defeated. Your attempts on the life of the Emperor Valerien are duly noted, as have all other Russian greivances, especially the participation in the murder of the Empress and Prince Imperial. Russia has shown time and time again that it cannot be trusted, that it cannot be allowed to survive in its current state as a belligerent, tyrannical society based upon oppression and the sole purpose of revenge. Societies based on such tenuous principles are destined to fall, whether by internal or foriegn forces. The Holy Roman Empire, as you can clearly see, shall prevail in this conflict. Therefore, we give you one last chance - to accept an unconditional surrender to all Allied forces. We do not need nor want to hear your protestations and your arguments on how such is unfair - either accept the proposal so that Russia may live and that you may have one last shred of dignity, or refuse it, so that your nation shall become a mere shadow of its former self.

TO: The Byzantine Empire
FROM: The Holy Roman Empire [of the French Nation]


You have consigned yourself to the dustbin of history. The Roman Empire, and Europe with it, shall be re-united under the banner of the west.
 
"Emperor Valerien,

I must inform you that we will not surrender, regardless of how many allies and strikes in the back you plan against Russia. Russia will continue to press forward against Poland and we will fight against the Japanese invasion that will stall regardless of their power. France is losing one ally after the other and the rest of the World will be soon to follow to throw off France's yoke. Quite unlike France, who has been nothing but underhanded in this conflict, Russia has not attacked the people of Poland or France, and has only fought against France's armies. Contrary to your beliefs Russia was never involved in any assasination attempts against you or your family, or, for that matter, any other French official, and the fact that you cannot find who was behind it, and are content to simply blame Russia shows both your lack of competence and your lack of morals. Hardly a good argument to persuade someone to agree with you.

Chancellor Suvorov"


"Emperor Valerien,

We have worked in the past together and you know that during my tenure as Russia's Chancellor I have worked hard to build constructive ties with the West and to prevent another conflict. I faield when Tsar Mikhail died prematurely and was replaced by Chancellor Suvorov and Tsarinia Sophia, and I was moved away, responsible for the economy of Russia. However, the economy that I am responsible for is in shatters, Chancellor Suvorov cares more for fighting battles than for the people who die in the process and the young Tsarinia cannot maintain control. Already there is dissent in the capital and I believe that survival of the country and the people is more important than the pride of the Chancellor. I will do all I can to help you if you promise me that, when this horrible ordeal is over, Russia will remain and will be a place where all Russians live together. I offer you my word for yours.

Vice-Chancellor Panin"
 
Former Officer Founds New Humanitarian Organisation

Having returned alive from the eastern battlefields where so many young men have fought, bled and died in recent years, captain Olsen was appaled at the poor conditions in camp and the lack of skilled medical care. Often the screams of the dying could be heard through the air for hours upon hours after every battle and clash as neither side ventured out to claim its wounded soldiers due to fear of catching a bullet. Thousands of men whose lives could have been saved died alone and in agony on the plains of western Russia.
Originally a doctor by occupation, captain Mads Olsen woved to do something about this. Now, with Scandinavia out of the war and the troops recalled from Russia he has done what he swore to himself that he would do. Rallying businessmen and colleagues he has founded the International Health and Aid Organisation.
Doctors from the IHAO will go to the poor, undeveloped areas, but their main source of worry is providing care to those who get none. The tens of thousands who are wounded in battle and for whom no one cares. The IHAO will work to secure the coorperation of the governments of the world to allow them to work safely on the battlefields. The organisation itself is politically neutral and seeks only to aid others without discrimination. So far the Scandinavian government has given captain Olsen their full support and promised to aid him in getting a treaty allowing their work out to the international community.
Dr. Olsen is calling out to doctors all over the world to put aside their national feelings and do what is right, namely work to save human lives. Whether on the battlefield, in army camps or in camps for prisoners of war, there is a huge need for skilled medical personal. Doctors and nurses both.
A spokesperson for the Scandinavian government has called Dr. Olsen a courageous person with his heart in the wrong place. He further stated that Scandinavia would fund a building to be the headquarters of the organisation and, furthermore, said that a treaty was in the works and would be presented to the world soon.
 
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UNIDENTIFIED LOCATION, SICHUAN PROVINCE, XIN HAN CHINESE EMPIRE
09:17 LOCAL TIME, JANUARY 13, 1787 COMMON CALENDER

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They had generally stopped moving by day. Probably because anytime they did and were spotted no less than five tons of ordinance was dropped on their positions, both by the aerial forces and artillery batteries. If it was a particularly big concentration they’d sometimes roll out the heavier stuff. These ones though… they must’ve been some of the stupid ones, or they were really desperate because they were moving during the day. “That’s the problem with guerilla warfare,” intoned a smooth female voice, trailing off for a moment. If you’d been looking at her from in front, all but her mouth and forehead would’ve been obscured by a massive pair of binoculars suspended by immaculate white gloves and sitting beneath a crown of disheveled, medium-short cut blonde hair. Without warning the hillside reflected in the lenses erupted into billowing explosions as the artillery fire impacted on the enemy positions. They lasted for at least fourteen seconds straight as a whole volley of shells ran up and down the length of the ridge. Each new burst blew a visible concussion wave through the smoke produced by the last; it was almost hypnotic. When it was over and the whole of the hill was engulfed in smoke from secondary fires, there was a wide grin beneath the binoculars “It’s… what’s that theory that American keeps espousing?”

“I believe it’s ‘evolution’, Berunadotto-sama,” replied Taii Ryoji Kaji, his voice grating from the mask. “Ah, yes,” came the reply, “all the stupid ones get killed early, and that just leaves the ones who know what they’re doing.”

She lowered the binoculars to one side, holding them with one hand and putting the other on her hip, contemplating the situation for a moment before turning to Kaji and handing him the binoculars. He was always struck by her eyes; they were green. Bright green.


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[font=”courier new”]PERSONNEL FILE [CONFIDENTIAL]
Name:
ベルナドット セラス (Bernadotte Seras)
Rank: Shosa (Major)
Service: 大日本帝國陸軍 (Imperial Japanese Army [IO Forces])
Serial Number: 893-42-3713
Gender: Female
D.O.B.: 1758.06.04 Common Calendar
Place of Birth: Kyoto, Japanese Empire
Blood Type: O Positive
Height: 1.702 Meters
Weight: 48.53 Kilograms
Religious Preference: None Listed
Current Assignment: Xin Han Empire of China

Notes: Daughter of Shosho “Pip” Bernadotte (Retired, Serial Number 532-84-1952) and Taisa Seras Victoria (Retired, Serial Number 804-16-3518). Enlisted on 1774.06.05, advanced to rank of Gochou before enrolling in Office Selection Program on 1777.03.17. Finished top of class on 1779.03.17. Advanced to rank of Chuui on 1781.05.30, advanced to rank of Taii on 1783.08.27. Five citations of meritorious action in Terra Australis Campaign, 1784.03.11 – 1784.12.06, granted field promotion to Shosa on 1784.07.16. Currently assigned to 81st Mechanized Infantry Division, Sichuan Province. Considered eligible for field promotion to Chusa on 1786.08.01.[/font]


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Kaji took the binoculars and handed her back her helmet and menpō. She took the helmet and put it on, fastening it down, before attaching the menpō and securing the seals – it was generally considered unwise to go without head or facial protection even in fairly secure areas, since the Chinese civilians had started acting up. It was unfortunate, as Imperial Rules of Engagement officially stated any target which took up arms against Imperial soldiers, civilian or military, was considered a combatant and therefore a legal target. There’d been an incident the other day where a guerilla sniper had been shot along the road while trying to take potshots at their convoy; after they’d killed him, some old man had gone for the gun. They’d screamed and screamed at him, in not just Mandarin or Cantonese, but Sichuan, not to do it but he’d kept on. As soon as his hand touched the butt of the gun they’d dropped him. Seras had immediately gone for the weapon and halfway there she’d seen a boy go for it, just like the old man. She’d gotten there first and backhanded him before he could; screaming at him for being so stupid. Kaji and the others had been training their rifles on him already. The boy had broken down and cried. She had to take off the menpō to calm him down and get him to stop screaming “monster”.

Even then it had still been a tense moment. It had been one of the most surreal moments of war seeing “The Laughing Girl in the Devil Mask” giving a young Chinese boy a hug and consoling him. The menpō might save your life in more ways than one, but they also had a drawback; while they were highly intimidating, they were also dehumanizing. Kaji personally hated the things. The regular Imperial Army ones were bad enough looking; they made soldiers look like angry stone statues with big, dark black eyes, but the ones issued to IOs were even worse. They were always painted the color of blood, the air filters were shaped to look like a grinning mouth, and the eyes were shaped wickedly and were hued golden. Given the rest of their gear was designed to be as inconspicuous as possible, it often created the effect of hovering demon faces. It was great for assaults, but not so hot for peacekeeping. They tended to stay out of towns, left those for the “stone faces” to deal with. Seras herself empathized with the Chinese people. Their official mandate was to avoid civilian casualties whenever possible, but she didn’t just follow the rule, she preached it to the rest of them. She’d heard the stories from her parents about the last war and had been thrilled to see many of the places they’d talked about… even if they had been being bombarded, on fire, or so on. They all tended to not feel like the Chinese people were their enemy. They were here for that traitorous government; the Xin Han troops were just its foolish pawns for continuing to resist. Somewhere deep down inside they all knew that they were just doing a job just like they themselves, but you had to push thoughts like that out of your mind. You couldn't show fear or weakness. You could barely be human. See enough things and you probably wouldn't be anymore. Kaji thought Seras seemed an exception to that. He had mostly gotten used to her, but her range of emotion seemed almost, to borrow the word of a Holy Roman researcher “bipolar”.

She could be laughing it up about blowing up a Chinese bunker, or – and he’d seen it – crying over the bodies of children in a school that had accidentally taken shell fire. He tended to chalk it up to war being humanity’s most insane pastime. But here they were, out in the middle of nowhere, dropping Emperor knows how much tonnage on some poor idiots who just had to run into plain sight while advancing and having a good time about it. As Seras checked her rifle’s clip before slinging it over her shoulder, she said “You know they’re coming, right Kaji-kun?”

He winced a little under his own mask; the filter distorted the voice some, made it sound muffled, more mechanical. It butchered his superior’s pleasant voice. “Hai, Berunadotto-sama; vanguard units.”

She simply nodded, turning back to the smoldering hill behind them and considering it for a moment “They’ll be here soon, so we’d best be ready.”

Kaji simply grimaced to himself and replied “Hai.”
 
Mongol Rebels
Capital: None yet
Ruler: Tolun Khan
Government: Tribal Monarchy
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Middle Industrial Age
Army (Training): 5 divisions (Better), 23 irregular divisions
Navy (Training): None yet
Air Force (Training): None yet
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Better/Tolerable
Infrastructure: Efficient
Education: Educated
Living Standards: Normal
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Nation Background: Through the late 17th and 18th centuries, the Mongols were gradually conquered by the Qing Chinese and the Russians; but even conquered, they remained a fiercely-independent people and often their chieftains would try to play the two great Eurasian empires against each other. Ultimately Mongolia was, after brief total Russian predominance, partitioned between China and Russia; but on both sides of the border, the tribes remained restless. Neither Russia nor China were interested in Mongolia ever reclaiming its independence; however, a new power rose in Asia that was interested in just that, and so as Japan jumped into the Second Worldwar, it incited and assisted a grand new Mongol rebellion.

I think I will take these guys...they look intreasted to say the least...very intreasting.
 
Should now be (+1 Education, +2 Infrastructure) (2/6).

Ah, yes.

What's the treaty of Lyons?

That's the treaty that finally partitioned (or rather re-partitioned) the PUAF, creating PUF and PUC, assuring the ties of all post-PUAF states with each other and the HRE and guaranteeing the unalterable status of the silly borders declared.

Wait, what the hell? My project's still at 0!?

Either that's a mistake on my part or you forgot to invest any money there.

He didn't even start mine :(

You send orders when I said that I would be physically incapable of receiving them, you suffer. ;)

@ Das, i think you should take the size and military upkeep rule as well, as it IS unlikely to maintain such a huge army without costs.

The nations with the huge armies (although most nations with said army size tend to be those capable of actually supporting this, Segu being a notable exception) are already losing mildly ridicilous amounts of money, not sure what are you complaining about. ;)

I think I will take these guys...they look intreasted to say the least...very intreasting.

Why did I expect that? :p
 
To: Japan, HRE
From: The Kingdom of Preahthaimranma

What up, could we have an answer to our diplomacy, yo. Uh-hu just ya know a re-affirmativation of ourz Alliances and a recognition of our name change as like non-threatening to you:)
 
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