Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game
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marius_kaparius
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I think the OP should just pick a batch of Civs and get us going again. A lot of interesting discussion in this thread while playing the game. In cases where there are multiple overlapping Civs for a region just pick one and then we can see how another does next round. Let's not overthink it.
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Okay, moving forward with Round 2 without further ado. If your favorite civ still didn't make the list, fear not. We can do a Round 3 as well if there's still interest.
Round 2
Argentines 20-3=17 Same as with Mexico, not really that interested in post-colonial nations as far as Civ is concerned.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Canadians 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 20+1=21 Because we need a proper Celtic civ.
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 20
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Round 2
Argentines 20-3=17 Same as with Mexico, not really that interested in post-colonial nations as far as Civ is concerned.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Canadians 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 20+1=21 Because we need a proper Celtic civ.
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 20
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 20
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Argentines 17
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Canadians 17 (20 - 3) -- I love Canada. But not in Civ please.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21 (20 + 1) -- This is at the very top of my wishlist.
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 20
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Canadians 17 (20 - 3) -- I love Canada. But not in Civ please.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21 (20 + 1) -- This is at the very top of my wishlist.
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 20
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Argentines 17
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Canadians 14 (17-3) If you want to include post-colonial nations, many others are more interesting in my opinion. Argentina and Mexico for example in the 'new world'.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 21 (20+1) Number 1 on my 'never been here before' list. The history of this country is not that famous in the western world and its culture looks very Indian, if you don't know much about it. Nonetheless are very interesting country (with hundreds of native tribes, some of them still very different today) that would make a nice civ.
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Canadians 14 (17-3) If you want to include post-colonial nations, many others are more interesting in my opinion. Argentina and Mexico for example in the 'new world'.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 21 (20+1) Number 1 on my 'never been here before' list. The history of this country is not that famous in the western world and its culture looks very Indian, if you don't know much about it. Nonetheless are very interesting country (with hundreds of native tribes, some of them still very different today) that would make a nice civ.
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Liufeng
A man of his time
Argentines 17
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20 + 1 = 21
Canadians 14 - 3 = 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Why Canada ? Because
Sorry, the joke was too strong to not do it. But anyway, I far prefer Argentina for a modern civ, and we're having too many anglais-saxon civs.
Why Bulgaria ? Because their empire was one of the greatest at their time. They had a wonderful literature, defeated the byzantines many times, and were the strongest power in eastern Europe.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20 + 1 = 21
Canadians 14 - 3 = 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 20
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans 20
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Why Canada ? Because
Sorry, the joke was too strong to not do it. But anyway, I far prefer Argentina for a modern civ, and we're having too many anglais-saxon civs.
Why Bulgaria ? Because their empire was one of the greatest at their time. They had a wonderful literature, defeated the byzantines many times, and were the strongest power in eastern Europe.
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Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
Argentines 17
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA (20+1)=21 One of my favorite cultural areas in North America. Descendants of the Mississippian moundbuilders.
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans (20-3)=17 No more Greek civs, please! Plus Minoan language is unknown...
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA (20+1)=21 One of my favorite cultural areas in North America. Descendants of the Mississippian moundbuilders.
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Minoans/Mycenaeans (20-3)=17 No more Greek civs, please! Plus Minoan language is unknown...
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Morningcalm
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Argentines 17
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20 + 1 = 21 (Culturally distinctive in part because we lack Oceanian civs in general)
Minoans/Mycenaeans 17 - 3 = 14 (Agreed.)
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 20 + 1 = 21 (Culturally distinctive in part because we lack Oceanian civs in general)
Minoans/Mycenaeans 17 - 3 = 14 (Agreed.)
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
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Argentines 17
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20 + 1 = 21 I actually really love the idea of having a crowded little island that has to be conquered. Similar to Sengoku Jidai. I also love celtic civs!
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 14 - 3 = 11 Very little interest in more greek civs
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 20 + 1 = 21 I actually really love the idea of having a crowded little island that has to be conquered. Similar to Sengoku Jidai. I also love celtic civs!
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 14 - 3 = 11 Very little interest in more greek civs
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Argentines 17 + 1 = 18 Even knowing that they will not stay long on the list, I want to give them a positive vote. As brazilian, I want to play as Brazil against Argentina at some point, sorry hermanos 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 11 - 3 = 8 They are too Greek to be added now or too obscure to be added some day.
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 20
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 21
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 11 - 3 = 8 They are too Greek to be added now or too obscure to be added some day.
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
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Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 17 (20 - 3) It doesn't make sense to give ancient Italy the same treatment as ancient Greece in a game where entire continents have less representation.
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 22 (21 + 1) An iconic UI option (the totem pole), a beautiful and distinctive art style and a location in one of the franchise's largest geographic gaps in representation.
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 8
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 17 (20 - 3) It doesn't make sense to give ancient Italy the same treatment as ancient Greece in a game where entire continents have less representation.
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 22 (21 + 1) An iconic UI option (the totem pole), a beautiful and distinctive art style and a location in one of the franchise's largest geographic gaps in representation.
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 8
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
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Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11-3=8 Not terribly excited about having them in the game, eh.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 17
Gauls/Britons 21+1=22 A proper Celtic civ.
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 22
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 8
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 11-3=8 Not terribly excited about having them in the game, eh.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 17
Gauls/Britons 21+1=22 A proper Celtic civ.
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 22
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 8
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 17
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 23 (22 + 1) -- Personally I'd rather see the clan house than the crest pole as their UI, but as long as they're included I won't be picky.
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5 (8 - 5) -- The Minoans would be a great addition, but we know too little about them. As for the Mycenaeans, while we're at it why don't we add Corinth, Abydos, Delphi, Ithaka, Nicaea, Eleusis...I mean, if we're going to continue to balkanize Greece, why stop there?
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 17
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 23 (22 + 1) -- Personally I'd rather see the clan house than the crest pole as their UI, but as long as they're included I won't be picky.
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5 (8 - 5) -- The Minoans would be a great addition, but we know too little about them. As for the Mycenaeans, while we're at it why don't we add Corinth, Abydos, Delphi, Ithaka, Nicaea, Eleusis...I mean, if we're going to continue to balkanize Greece, why stop there?
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14 = (17 - 3)
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24 = (23 + 1)
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
The Etruscans are an interesting culture, but we certainly don't need to be dividing up European countries into ever smaller cultures! Especially since it's quite likely we'll get some later Italian civ (whether blobbed or a city-state empire like Venice or Genoa).
Let me throw another vote on the Pacific Northwest. My top pick for an unexplored area and culture for the Civ franchise. Plus their UU could wear this awesome armour:-
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14 = (17 - 3)
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24 = (23 + 1)
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
The Etruscans are an interesting culture, but we certainly don't need to be dividing up European countries into ever smaller cultures! Especially since it's quite likely we'll get some later Italian civ (whether blobbed or a city-state empire like Venice or Genoa).
Let me throw another vote on the Pacific Northwest. My top pick for an unexplored area and culture for the Civ franchise. Plus their UU could wear this awesome armour:-
Spoiler Excellent Tlingit armour :
Liufeng
A man of his time
Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20 + 1 = 21 I really really really want a Benin (Nigeria) civ led by Queen Idia. Plus, their UB and UU are quite obvious : their walls, and the Queen's Own, the queen's elite guard.
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20 - 3 = 17 I think Anatolia will be perfect with Hittites, Byzantines and Ottomans. No need for more.
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 20 + 1 = 21 I really really really want a Benin (Nigeria) civ led by Queen Idia. Plus, their UB and UU are quite obvious : their walls, and the Queen's Own, the queen's elite guard.
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 20 - 3 = 17 I think Anatolia will be perfect with Hittites, Byzantines and Ottomans. No need for more.
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Morningcalm
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Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20 + 1 (Jewish empire. If we can't get the Hebrews in, I think Khazars would at least fill the religious diversity out a bit, even if that's not a priority over geographic representation)
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 17 - 3 = 14 (Agreed on this also.)
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 20
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 20 + 1 (Jewish empire. If we can't get the Hebrews in, I think Khazars would at least fill the religious diversity out a bit, even if that's not a priority over geographic representation)
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 17 - 3 = 14 (Agreed on this also.)
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians (20+1)=21 I feel like Tamar is a qualified female leader and deserves to be in the game, plus I want to hear that non-Indo-European language...
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians (14-3)=11 Lydian language is not that well attested, and Pontus' leader would be speaking Greek, so no...
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians (20+1)=21 I feel like Tamar is a qualified female leader and deserves to be in the game, plus I want to hear that non-Indo-European language...
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 20
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians (14-3)=11 Lydian language is not that well attested, and Pontus' leader would be speaking Greek, so no...
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20
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Minoans/Mycenaeans 5 (8 - 5) -- The Minoans would be a great addition, but we know too little about them. As for the Mycenaeans, while we're at it why don't we add Corinth, Abydos, Delphi, Ithaka, Nicaea, Eleusis...I mean, if we're going to continue to balkanize Greece, why stop there?
The Minoans were NOT Greeks!
And Mycenae is already in the game. Mycenae is Greece!
Increadible!
Edit: the post of Zaarin is, of course, not one of them
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Why did you include my post? I didn't claim Minoa was Greek; I said we know too little about them, which is true: we have no language, no leader names. Linear A and Minoan Hieroglyphics aren't going to be deciphered any time soon. And I'm pretty certain every other objection Greek civs was aimed at Mycenae not Minoa.
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