New civ linked to new resource

Australia and Canada despite being fairly young (as is

As for this exapansion, Cuba will not be in it. The last 4 are most likely:

6. Morocco
7. Italy
8. Sioux or another Native American Civ
9. Indonesia

Even if there were another expansion (or more DLC), I would prefer to see a list like:

1. Hungary
2. Khmer
3. Mali
4. Kongo
5. Serbia
6. Phoenicia
7. Timurids
8. Khazars
9. Gran Colombia or Argentina

Many of those are common suggestions. If we get the Serbs at any stage I think we would get Yugoslavia with Tito as leader though. I never get the Phoenicia love - to me they are a city state and thats the right treatment of them. If I was picking.

6 - The Moors/Berbers
7 - Majapahit (Indonesia)
8 - Sioux
9 - Australia

DLC's or future expansion
1 - Kongo
2 - Vietnam
3 - West Indies
4 - Italy
5 - Khazar
6 - Gran Columbia
7 - Timurid
8 - Canada
9 - Khmer
10 - Yugoslavia

Out of the choices I still think it's going to be Bison for Sioux
 
Maybe Moroccan spices an morocco?
 
I never get the Phoenicia love - to me they are a city state and thats the right treatment of them.

I see them as even more important than the Carthage. Kinda like England and America situation, where the colony became a more famous. See http://phoenicia.org/toc.html for a good amount of information, especially the "did you know?" section is fun to read. If we do not get Phoenicia this time, I really hope they will be added right from the beginning to the next game of the Civ series. :)

The Phoenicians were the direct descendents of the Canaanites of the south Syrian and Lebanese coast who, at the end of the second millennium BC, became isolated by population and political changes in the regions surrounding them. The name derives from the Greek, Phoinikes, referring to the purple coloured dye which the Phoenicians extracted from the murex shell, and with which they produced highly prized textiles.

The major Phoenician cities were Tyre, Sidon, Byblos and Arwad. These cities represented a confederation of fiercely independent maritime traders. By the late eighth century BC, the Phoenicians had founded trading posts and colonies around the entire Mediterranean, the greatest of which was Carthage on the north coast of Africa (present day Tunisia). Explorers and traders from Carthage even ventured beyond the Straits of Gibraltar as far as Britain in search of tin.

Phoenician craftsmen and artists perpetuated the purest ideals of their Canaanite ancestors into the first millennium and transmitted them throughout the Mediterranean world. They were extremely skilled in metalworking, ivory carving, jewellery manufacture and glass-making. One of the most significant contributions of the Phoenicians was in developing the alphabet invented by the Canaanites and passing it to the Greeks: it is the same alphabet we use today.

I admit the Murex might be a bit far fetch, but I think it could make an excellent unique sea resource for the Phoenicians.
 
I never get the Phoenicia love - to me they are a city state and thats the right treatment of them. If I was picking.

Well, by definition, Phoenicia was not a city-state. They were city-states, yes, but the name refers to the cultural group in general. Tyre was a city-state. As were Sidon and Biblos. The thing is, though, once you start adding together city-states, you get a civilization. The Maya is a good example here.

Now I'm not saying they should be in and the two current city-states that represent them may be good ideas. I'm just pointing out that they weren't just a city-state.
 
Considering we are supposedly only getting one new resource and considering this is linked to the new civ, that makes me think that it is not linked to other civs: it has a certain unique air to it.

It would be hard to make it unique if it is an improvable tile as a resource like sugar or marble. I think it will be a manufactured resources like jewellery and porcelain are at the moment, garnered by a UB. This limits it to one per city, unlike the polder with tulips that was cut from G&K.

Options for this amongst some strong candidates for civs:

Venetian glass or olive oil for Italy or Venice

Fertilizer or some derivative of phosphates (75% of the worlds reserves) or berber carpets for Morocco

Vietnam and the Champa are apparently also quick big for brick making.
 
The thing is Dennis Shirk was responding to "Natural Resources". Perhaps he didn't answer the question well (which is likely), but if not then it means no Venetian glass.
 
The thing is Dennis Shirk was responding to "Natural Resources". Perhaps he didn't answer the question well (which is likely), but if not then it means no Venetian glass.

It just seems very odd that they would only add one new tile resource. It seems very out of place just so a civ can have a specific bonus for it. Why not give a new civ a specific bonus to an existing resource, or add a few new ones like with G&K?

I would really think that at most this is a tile improvement. But seeing as that style of improvement has already been abandoned in a previous expansion the only logical solution i can see is manufactured.
 
My guess for an additional resource would be clay, improved with the quarry (currently only used by marble and stone), with the Majapahit somehow utilizing it to make terracotta as a tradable resource. I feel that any additional resource would be semi-universal; bison is too region specific.
 
I still think it means we get something similar to Atolls (Which only came out when Polynesia was released, similarly Polynesia is the civ that tends to benefit the most from Atolls)

Likewise few civs would settle many cities in snow. I am still leaning towards seals being the new resource and considering the fan favorite status (similar to Polynesia had for years), the Inuit could be the "Pro"-Civ that was mentioned.

Either way, we don't know nearly enough and the interview was far from 100% clear. Certain resources I find unlikely [Coffee, terracotta, IE because of civs already in Civ 5]
 
One resource I haven't seen mentioned is Tobacco

We have the Civil War Scenario after all and the Cherokee were speculated as a potential civ earlier. Potentially could also be the CSA [Although unlikely] but its a resource that could see use in both the main game and a scenario
 
I like the olive oil suggestion for Italy, though it could easily be a resource associated with a number of mediterranean civs.
 
One resource I haven't seen mentioned is Tobacco

We have the Civil War Scenario after all and the Cherokee were speculated as a potential civ earlier. Potentially could also be the CSA [Although unlikely] but its a resource that could see use in both the main game and a scenario

I'd been considering Tobacco myself, but I wasn't sure if it made sense to attribute it to a sole Eastern tribe. That said, it makes more sense than adding bison as a resource for a people who never even practiced agriculture.
 
It's worth mentioning that any direct reference to drugs/alcohol would bump the game up to a T rating. I don't know how much Firaxis minds that though, pretty sure most of their fanbase is too old to care.
 
It's worth mentioning that any direct reference to drugs/alcohol would bump the game up to a T rating. I don't know how much Firaxis minds that though, pretty sure most of their fanbase is too old to care.

They do like to play up the educational value of Civ though. I think they want to be relatively kid friendly.
 
If they were going to add tobacco, China, India, Brazil, and the U.S. would all reasonably have it. It makes no sense to be tied to a single new civ when all the biggest players in the tobacco industry are already in the game.
 
It's worth mentioning that any direct reference to drugs/alcohol would bump the game up to a T rating. I don't know how much Firaxis minds that though, pretty sure most of their fanbase is too old to care.

I've read this as an argument against the inclusion of tobacco or poppies or whatever else, but no one has ever mentioned wine... I mean, last time I checked, wine is alcohol. It's very clearly wine, rather than grapes, so no subtlety or shade of meaning there.
 
If they were going to add tobacco, China, India, Brazil, and the U.S. would all reasonably have it. It makes no sense to be tied to a single new civ when all the biggest players in the tobacco industry are already in the game.

Well considering tobacco came from the Caribbean/Eastern NA, and was introduced to Europeans by Native Americans, if anyone was to have it, it'd be them.
 
I've read this as an argument against the inclusion of tobacco or poppies or whatever else, but no one has ever mentioned wine... I mean, last time I checked, wine is alcohol. It's very clearly wine, rather than grapes, so no subtlety or shade of meaning there.

Promote this man.
 
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