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Leathaface
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I'm talking about patches that affect the game, not ones that allow people between different platforms to play. Also since when is a hotfix a patch?
You'd really expect four patches to improve the AI some. The AI is still below average.
I reckon we'll get total and utter silence. (as per usual)
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SammyKhalifa
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Depending on what you mean by "below average" it's been that way since about 25 years or so.
Leathaface
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In Civ V the AI could win their chosen victory type in a timely manner, not so much in Civ VI. You survive until mid-game and then likely cruise towards victory.
I also got invaded by Knights recently, 8 of them. They reduced my city's health around 75%, then for some reason they stopped attacking and 3 of them went to attack my fully walled city to the West and another 3 dispersed. The other 2 Knights did nothing. That is some pretty horrid AI.
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I mean yeah, things could be fixed. But on the other hand in CivIV if I could manage just one tech that another civ doesn't have, I could trade it for every tech I needed to catch completely up. From what I know that was never changed.
WillowBrook
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And what the frack is that suppose to mean? I refuse to think I'm the only one here that belives that most of humanity greatest leaders have great personalities. I simply can not think about anyone, so please instruct me.
Zdarg
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Some leaders achieve something great and some...er, just have great personalities.
shaglio
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People at Firaxis browse these forums, so they're well aware that some posters here are unsatisfied with their lack of communication. But their lack of communication is likely a direct order from 2K, who surely have a plan for marketing release. So what's the best way for Firaxis to throw a bone to a small fanatical group before they're officially allowed to issue a big release announcement to the broader player base? An "accidental" leak of little bits of information sporadically in dribs and drabs in the meantime.
It's like when somebody goes down to City Hall to look into adoption records in order to find out who their birth parents are. The clerk says, "Sorry, I'm not allowed to let you look in this folder . . . that I'll conveniently leave unattended on top of the counter while I go into the back room and look something up."
Well, usually 'big personality' is used to mean someone is loud/outgoing/center of attention in the room. Firaxis seems to be using it to mean 'famous in pop history' and or 'can be summarized with a few adjectives/neat anecdotes'. I.e. if they have the choice between the leader who was a swashbuckling pirate or a competent technocrat, they'd probably choose the former. Not whether they actually had a good personality.
Teddy Roosevelt fits the bill, Cleopatra fits the bill, I've been joking that I'm surprised they didn't go with Henry the VIII for England, but honestly Victoria theoretically fits the bill even though her characterization in Civ 6 is pretty much the opposite of everything associated with her (the stereotype of conservative, stiff-upper-lip English).
Having said that they've absolutely gone with more of the 'competent technocrat' sort of choice over 'louder'/more famous options in a number of cases. For example Phillip II of Spain (despite his characterization), Trajan as well in that category imho (I know it's a little reductive to call them both that, but in comparison to other options).
My $0.02 - It got you guys all fired up! Look at the effect the photos on the wall had last time. Everyone was interested, engaged and in almost a frenzy. It was like giving us all a puzzle to solve. And then we all couldn't wait to see the First Looks to see if we had solved that puzzle.
And I do not see how that hurts an organized marketing campaign as you guys are the hard core fans and the marketing campaign is more for other players they want to get interested.
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My $0.02 - It got you guys all fired up! Look at the effect the photos on the wall had last time. Everyone was interested, engaged and in almost a frenzy. It was like giving us all a puzzle to solve. And then we all couldn't wait to see the First Looks to see if we had solved that puzzle.
And I do not see how that hurts an organized marketing campaign as you guys are the hard core fans and the marketing campaign is more for other players they want to get interested.
There are far better ways to get civfanatics fired up in a positive manner than this approach.
I'm not crediting this theory because I am crediting the folks at Firaxis and 2k at being better at their job than would be implied by the suggestion that this is the best idea they could come up with to "throw us a bone".
Deliverator
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Also I can't imagine any reputable company using 4 c h a n as part of its official marketing strategy.
Morningcalm
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I will say that the "blurred photos of leaders" was the most excitement I've had before a Civ launch ever, and a wonderful example of a time when Civfanatics was united in something (as opposed to later arguments on these forums about, say, Civ V or VI being the better game). Even though the blurred leaders leak didn't fit the "give info in driblets" approach of 2K marketing I was still excited to see how the leaders would look in-game once we knew the leaders' identities.My $0.02 - It got you guys all fired up! Look at the effect the photos on the wall had last time. Everyone was interested, engaged and in almost a frenzy. It was like giving us all a puzzle to solve. And then we all couldn't wait to see the First Looks to see if we had solved that puzzle.
And I do not see how that hurts an organized marketing campaign as you guys are the hard core fans and the marketing campaign is more for other players they want to get interested.
I didn't even mind that we found out all the leaders ahead of the First Look videos due to the wonderful historical info we found as a result of that (I had no idea who Catherine de Medici was before that leak, and reading up on her after the leak was a delight for me).
Then by this narrow definition, which you didn't specify in your original comment, there have been three updates specifically affecting game mechanics.
For the layman you could reasonably interchange hotfix & patch for the February 2018 update. I've seen it referred to as both by FXS & other players due to it's roll out within a week of R&F's debut.
I agree that the AI could certainly be improved, but it's a bit disingenuous to claim that there has been little to no improvements since R&F. The changes have been incremental, but there has been definite improvement imo.
See, the MARKETING people are for marketing to the masses. A tiny, blurry leak of a ship or a blond queen that can be reverse google image searched is COMPLETELY useless for those people... but for this forum? The kind of forum where a thread titled "All Quiet on the Civ Front" gets tens of thousands of views?
Those blurry images are marketing gold. Remember, this is the forum that made Tamar of Georgia a thing. I'm not willing to write this theory off completely, nor am I willing to even bet against it being a DELIBERATE leak that 2k may have even tacitly agreed to when presented by Firaxis with some basic "your core fans are starving and losing interest, let us throw them a bone" logic.
After all, those images leaked, have in NO WAY been addressed, confirmed, DENIED, verified, or even been REMOTELY linked to Civ6 in anything other than an abstract manner and we've closed the "All Quiet" thread and basically all accepted that the next xpac is coming and added the Maori into a "Confirmed" civ. We're down to arguing if the ship in question is the Ottomans or Berbers.
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