New Unit: Legonarii Fulminata

[Mithadan]

My aesthetic sense goes with Fulminator, so there.

 

[Xen]

but please stop pretending to know what goes on the mind of the people who come up with the ideas, and concept for a unit- including the name- because fact is, only we know what we are exactley thinking when we come up with a name, and no one else- the current name of Fulminata stands as is.

 

[Ozymandias]

Originally posted by Xen
"Fulminator " sounds uterrlly stupid- Fulminta sounde better in both latin [...]

Hmmm ... I wonder how Quintius Fabius Maximus, the Cunctator ("Delayer") who caused Hannibal's defeat in Italy, would have felt being called the "Cunctata" ...

-Oz

 

[Dom Pedro II]

That sounds dirty... but I'm not completely sure why...


We can call him the Fulminator if we can get an Arnold Schwarzanagger-sounding voice clip for him...

 

[utahjazz7]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
That sounds dirty... but I'm not completely sure why...


We can call him the Fulminator if we can get an Arnold Schwarzanagger-sounding voice clip for him...

Yes, the fortify sound should definately be something like "Prepare to be fulminated!"

 

[Startaff]

Don't know what you meant and don't know (and care) if you think that Fulminator sounds stupid (to a Latin or Italian speaker, Fulminata sounds ridiculous for a single male man!)

Fact is that the EXACT Latin translations are:
Thunderbolt = Fulmen (not fulminata)
Thunderbolt thrower = Fulminator (it also was one of the appellative of Jupiter)

Fulminata literally means "stricken by a thunderbolt" and it is accusative feminine plural, NOT subject male singular as a name for a male singular should be.

I (wrongly?) assumed you were thinking of a unit which "threw" thunderbolts, not being hit by them!

BTW, Fulminata was also the "cognomen" (name) of Ceasar's XII legio, firstly used against the Helvetii and it (feminine) was called so because its symbol was a thunderbolt.

 

[Xen]

first off, who said any of us were single?

secondlly, I'm not itallian, hence my general not careing if if it sounds ridculous in that language or not- dont mean to be an ass, but I'm just giving the blunt truth of the matter to you...

the fact of the matter is, we took the name fulminata because it was shrotend version of terra fulminata- which, IIRC,could be used as "earthlly lightning"- hence the name "fulminata"

 

[Xen]

Originally posted by Startaff

BTW, Fulminata was also the "cognomen" (name) of Ceasar's XII legio, firstly used against the Helvetii and it (feminine) was called so because its symbol was a thunderbolt.

BTW, I know all of names of the legions- you have no need to tell me, I'm am affirmed ROman by blood and by modern culture - and belive me, I know my history

 

[Startaff]

If I said "single man" I was obviously not referring to you.
I was referring to the unit.

Assuming it is a (1) Legionnaire, I assumed HE is a man (or he's not?)
Therefore he's male, while Fulminata is female.

Again "terra fulminata" translates into "earth stricken by a thunderbolt" (but it should be "terra fulminatam") and not into "earthly thunderbolt", which could be something like "fulmen terrae".

I did not know how much you know about Legions. I was just thinking about how the "fulminata" name came by.

I don't understand what do you mean about being an "affirmed ROman by blood and by modern culture".
What has this to do with ancient Rome and the Latin language?
I'm 100% Italian and I know that our only link with ancient Rome is (partly) our current language. And this is how Italians generally think about it.

Last: assuming that a forum is a place where one finds and gives advice, I (wrongly) assumed you misspelled a Latin name and tried to provide help.
Obviously you can give your units the names you like, and even invent a new language to spell them.

 

[Xen]

its a one legionary representation of somthing that would be about the size of a cohort, assuming that an army is a full legion

as for the name- thank you for clearing it up, though I myself wont be changeing the name of the unit

as for the bit abut my bloodlines- simply notifing that if you want to show off a knowldge of Roman histpry, you've picked the wrong person to try and impress

 

[Startaff]

Originally posted by Xen
as for the bit abut my bloodlines- simply notifing that if you want to show off a knowldge of Roman histpry, you've picked the wrong person to try and impress

Again, you see an attack where there is none!

I was not showing any special knowledge of Roman history and I'm not interested in impressing anybody (expecially somebody I don't know and living on the other side of an ocean).
I can very easily concede that your knowledge of Roman history is better than mine.
I was just making LINGUISTIC remarks, which have NOTHING to do with the Roman history itself.

I just said that TODAY's Italians don't care much about their Latin ancestors and, MOST OF ALL, there is very little connection between modern Italians (and Romans) and ancient Romans.
Therefore (and here is where you felt an attack?), being Roman does NOT guarantee to be expert of ancient Latin culture.

To end the story, if I'd create an English/American unit and call it the "tunderbool", I'd be not upset if somebody would suggest the correct spelling.

 

[Kal-el]

It is amazing to me that a seventeen year old can think he knows everything about a subject, and can be so bold as to dictate to his elders who have had more time to study the subject, live in the subject, and develop comprehensive knowledge of the subject and how it relates to the entire continuum of human experience and history. It is simply astounding.

 

[Xen]

then be amazed no more- for he posts here

 

[Gojira54]

Originally posted by Kal-el
It is amazing to me that a seventeen year old can think he knows everything about a subject, and can be so bold as to dictate to his elders who have had more time to study the subject, live in the subject, and develop comprehensive knowledge of the subject and how it relates to the entire continuum of human experience and history. It is simply astounding.

lol

But we were all 17 once, and knew everything then, too....

Either way I love the unit and really don't care who calls it what.

 

[Xen]

until you can find someone who dose know more then I on the Roman empire- or perhaps i should say has the resouces to know just about anything about Rome, combined with an extenisve knowledge of it... well, if you can find someone more like that, then I'll stop dicteing, but since such a person has not yet come up, nor I think will for a very long time, I rightfully claim it as my perogative- and none have yet proved that it isnt

 

[Gojira54]

I'm not insulting you at all. You know more about the Roman empire than I do and your unit making abilities far exceed mine. I think you are doing a great job. Keep up the good work.

I just thought Kal-Els statement was funny, and it is true that as a teenager you think you know everything. Nothing personal, we all did it at that age and anybody who tells you differently is lying.

But seriously, who cares? this is a good unit, I plan on using it, and everybody has the right and ability to call it whatever they want.

 

[Kal-el]

Yep, I just started working with high school students and they just crack me up. Then I remember what I was like ten years ago and I have to smile.

 

[Gojira54]

at 17 I had hair down to my waist and was 100% sure my stupid little garage band was going to make me rich....

Xen - you have proven yourself to be a great unit maker, and I eagerly await all of your upcoming work!

 

[Xen]

I didnt make the unit- I, along with THorgrimme, who diserve FAR more credit then I, came uo with the concept for it- hellm I did little more then lend support to the idea- but the NEXT Roman unit- oh yes, I think many will get a kick out of it

 

[Gojira54]

Now that I look, You are right, DP2 made it, and he is a well established unit maker. If only someone had some ideas for some really unusual units like dinos or something......