New Units??

From the PAX East demo:
Composite bowmen has 7 strength, 11 ranged strength.
African Forest Elephant (Carthage UU) has 14 strength.
Quinquirime (Carthage UU), melee naval, has 13 strength.
Horse archer (Hun UU) has 6 strenght, 8 ranged strength.
Battering ram (Hun UU) has 10 strenght.
 
Can we get a unit count?

1. Dromon
2. Pictish Warrior
3. African Forest Elephant
4. Quinquereme
5. Sea Beggar
6. Mehal Sufari
7. Battering Ram
8. Horse Archer
9. Atl-atl
10. Carolean
11. Hakkapeliitta
12. Great Admiral
13. Great Prophet
14. Missionary
15. Inquisitor
16. Landship
17. Great War Bomber
18. Great War Fighter
19. Gatling Gun
20. Machine Gun
21. Great War Infantry
22. (Austria UU #1)
23. Composite Bowman
24. Privateer
25.
26.
27.

Am I missing anything?
 
Ah, thanks.

I also suspect there is a second Byzantine UU, so the only question is if any others will have a UU as well (likely Austria, possibly Celts). Alternatively, there would be one more unit, possibly a ranged boat.
 
So of the five civilizations we still don't know all the uniques of, only two can have UU, and even that's unlikely, given that we'll be getting melee naval units as well. So potentially we don't have any more UU other than the Austrian one
 
I suspect:

Trireme - Melee

Caravel - Ranged

Frigate - Ranged
Privateer - Melee

Ironclad - Melee

Destroyer - Melee
Battleship - Ranged

There are two spaces where they could add a ranged unit, but I don't know if they will. However, that would fill all the slots appropriately.
 
So of the five civilizations we still don't know all the uniques of, only two can have UU, and even that's unlikely, given that we'll be getting melee naval units as well. So potentially we don't have any more UU other than the Austrian one

How would you know that? They could give each Civ a 2nd UU.
 
There are 3/27 unknown units, but 7-8/13 unknown buildings. There are 5 new civs that we don't know what one of there Unique Things are.

Austria: UU, U?
Byzantine: Dromon, U?
Celts: Pictish Warrior, U?
Ethiopia: Mehal Safari, U?
Mayans: Atlatl, U?

One unknown unit is definitely Austria's. So, at most, 2 could get a second UU. The rest are probably unique buildings but possibly unique tile improvements.
 
They should add a standard war galley for medieval times, to go along with the dromon. Perhaps they did, who knows?
 
I believe that the Dromon is simply a Trireme replacement like the Civ3 Dromon which replaced the Galley. It would make quite a lot of sense, since Carthage will have the melee Quinquereme while the Byzantines will have a ranged Dromon. That way both ancient era civs will dominate the seas but in a different form.
I would also be quite disappointed if the Byzantines don't get the Cataphract as their second UU and don't tell this guy wouldn't make an awesome UU.

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I feel like the Byzantines must have a cataphract unit of some sort, would be too weird for them not too.

I hope they do. The Byzantines are the perfect candidate for two units and possible buildings are fairly underwhelming (Hippodrome especially, because, without a Cataphract, what's the point? However, a Basilica is also unlikely given they already have something for religion).
 
also are we 100% sure Austria will have an unique unit, for all we know it could have a ub and an new map building or two ub's
 
Actually, I would think that would make it even more likely.

This was my thinking, too. Especially, as their UA seems probably to weak, to be the *only* thing about religion for them. An UB with higher faith yield would be fitting.
But then, the cataphract is just too tempting to miss, maybe.

(On the other hand: would the basilica replace the cathedral? As I understood the belief-system, mosques and cathedrals are *only* buildale with a certain belief. Is this correct? This would render the the basilica close to useless, as Byzantium *has* to take this beliefe!)

also are we 100% sure Austria will have an unique unit, for all we know it could have a ub and an new map building or two ub's

Possible, but highly unlikely, in my opinion. I think, that at least one UU is standard for every civ.

But how knows? Stranger things happend on earth already...
 
But shouldn't there be a little bit more emphasis on faith? After all, this is Byzantium's "theme".
 
I found a clue or pattern that confirms that the Byzantines will have a second UU.
So far every civilization with a naval UU ( England, Korea and Carthage) also had a second land based UU in order to make them useful on maps without big bodies of water. Giving a civ only a naval UU makes them very dependent on water and gives them a strong disadvantage on maps where a navy isn't vital, to even this out they also get a land based UU. I think the possibilities of a second Byzantine UU are therefore quite high.:)
 
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