No Gandhi for the foreseeable future, perhaps ever! That's a yay for me

[Thenewwwguy]

Unless they somehow release a modern India, I wouldn’t really like that. India doesn’t really need four leaders for one region

if france gets 3.5, india can have 6-7 and it still would be deserving of more

 

[Albertan Civfanatic]

I'm more concerned with there being no foreseeable Alexander the Great or another strong Greek leader.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I'm more concerned with there being no foreseeable Alexander the Great or another strong Greek leader.

do we know the other right to rule leader yet?

feels like the theme of the collection should still favor alexander (or similarly important greek leaders like phillip ii, draco, leonidas, solon)

 

[Albertan Civfanatic]

I would certainly hope so. FXS has to have big ticket historical names in order to sell their DLC/game.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I would certainly hope so. FXS has to have big ticket historical names in order to sell their DLC/game.

the good thing for ppl interested in that is that’s mainly been the focus of the leader selections thus far. the leaders who aren’t household names fit on two hands, and if you’re talking leaders who aren’t in the average american world history textbook, probably just one hand.

chances are they won’t go obscure too often (prob max 1 per small dlc like this, seeing how ada lovelace is paired alongside bolivar)

 

[Albertan Civfanatic]

I am stoked for Carthage's early arrival soon.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

do we know the other right to rule leader yet?

It's Genghis Khan.

There's still room for Gandhi down the line, because if Firaxis can have both Napoleon and Lafayette right now, I don't see why Rani's inclusion would mean he's out.

 

[Ornen]

Good riddance.

But.

I fear he will come back, eventually

Somehow, Gandhi returned

 

[Thenewwwguy]

It's Genghis Khan.

There's still room for Gandhi down the line, because if Firaxis can have both Napoleon and Lafayette right now, I don't see why Rani's inclusion would mean he's out.

so kinda as expected, they’ll prob pair lesser known “textbook leaders” with the household names

 

[RedCourtJester]

i would prefer to see Akbar and Rajendra/Rajaraja Chola than leaders from india who aren’t associated with the civs in the game atm.

I actually like the use of leaders to represent other eras not represented formally by civs, for locations that are dense with kingdoms (ala Confucius and maybe Himiko, Charlemagne and Machiavelli depending on what we get) Some other examples I think would fit in nicely:

* Wu Zetian but no Tang China civ
* Zarathustra but no Avestan antiquity civ
* Eleanor of Aquitaine but no Angevin civ
* 'Aho'eitu/Nafanua but no Tonga/Samoa civ (depending which we get)
* Spearthrower Owl but no Teotihuacan civ
* Olga of Kiev if Byzantines preclude no Kievan Rus' civ
* Tamerlane if Mongolia/Sassania/Seljuks precludes no Timurids civ
* Theodoric if no Gothic civ
* Soma as Funan "pre Khmer" representation
* Alexander but no Macedonian civ (please, please no Macedon Firaxis, we are good)

 

[TheGrayFox]

Gandhi is a meme, he'll eventually be DLC for the sales

 

[ehecatzin]

I actually like the use of leaders to represent other eras not represented formally by civs, for locations that are dense with kingdoms (ala Confucius and maybe Himiko, Charlemagne and Machiavelli depending on what we get) Some other examples I think would fit in nicely:

* Wu Zetian but no Tang China civ
* Zarathustra but no Avestan antiquity civ
* Eleanor of Aquitaine but no Angevin civ
* 'Aho'eitu/Nafanua but no Tonga/Samoa civ (depending which we get)
* Spearthrower Owl but no Teotihuacan civ
* Olga of Kiev if Byzantines preclude no Kievan Rus' civ
* Tamerlane if Mongolia/Sassania/Seljuks precludes no Timurids civ
* Theodoric if no Gothic civ
* Soma as Funan "pre Khmer" representation
* Alexander but no Macedonian civ (please, please no Macedon Firaxis, we are good)

that list is fire.

 

[GeneralZIft]

Lame thread. I like the variety and that includes Gandhi. My actual issue is with his implementation, his ability is always bad. They should really pay respects to his character

 

[DukeSammael]

I would go as far as saying that France doesn't have a single real leader in the base game right now!

• Both Napoleon personas require linking one's Steam account to their 2k account. Not every player will have a 2k account, some won't care, some will refuse for privacy reasons ... Napoleon can't be considered a part of the leader pool. He's external to the game!
• Lafayette is as much American as he is French. I'd say he was probably even more important to American history than he was to French history. Not really a "French" leader for me.
• Charlemagne is the worst thought. Charlemagne was born in Aachen (current Germany) and could be best described as the last Roman emperor. One of his sons might be considered as the first king of France (or what would become France) but Charlemagne certainly can't be. He's definitely an important European historic figure, but he's not french!

That sucks because with so many so-called "french" leaders already, there's a real risk we won't see a real french leader for a long time, if we ever see one. And with Civ7 non-leader leaders including everything from explorers to scientists, there was a lot of cool choices from a very conservative approach bringing back Joan of Ark (who wouldn't feel out of place for a change) to someone like Voltaire who was one of the driving forces of the Enlightenment.

Robespierre or bust!

 

[Baudshaw]

if france gets 3.5, india can have 6-7 and it still would be deserving of more

Fine here goes:
Ashoka
Rani Lakshmibai
Rajendra Chola
Shah Jahan
Raja Rammohan Roy
Screw it, even Indira

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Fine here goes:
Ashoka
Rani Lakshmibai
Rajendra Chola
Shah Jahan
Raja Rammohan Roy
Screw it, even Indira

Buddha

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Buddha

Honestly wouldn't be mad at that.
Now all we need is Tibet and we could have Maurya>Tibet>Nepal path for him.

 

[Psychotronics]

Yeah, I'm glad too. I agree that he fit into this game more than in any other iteration, but they overused him so I'd rather not have him at all. If it were up to me, he'd never make a comeback, he's been in, what, six games already?
Now I can focus entirely on my personal crusader not to have Pedro II as the Brazilian leader for the third time.

 

[Giskler]

As long as he ends every interaction with "OUR WORDS ARE BACKED BY NUCLEAR WEAPONS" I'm cool with including Gandhi.

 

[RedCourtJester]

Buddha

Only if we get his western counterpart, Jesus. If we are going there, do it properly.