NOTW LV: The Underground (Game Thread)

[Autolycus]

Midday Day 7​

The overwhelming sentiment in the morning seemed to be that the Sheaim refugee was not what he seemed, but lunch might have changed that.

Vote Tally
sprig:4-choxorn, Backwards Logic, Visorslash, Zack
zack:1- sprig

Day ends in [TIMER="8/27/2015 7:00 PM EDT; Day is Done"][/TIMER]​

 

[Sprig]

for the record sprig

if choxorn is town we win anyway by lynching you because we just lynch zack afterwards

Yeah thats what conclusion I have come to.

Would prefer to be alive when that happens as would BackwardsLogic. I was thinking about possible variations during work but it is still difficult to see what benefit was gained by not killing last night. The only thing that really stands out is a final day of 3 is better than a final day of 4. It was silly of me slipping that i would be blocked last night and that made it easy to set me up for a lynch.

I got about 30min-60 mins before my daughter is due to wake.

So I don't have time to go though and put up a proper defense. But i will make sure Zacks fate is sealed for tomorrow.

 

[choxorn]

 

[Visorslash]

It was silly of me slipping that i would be blocked last night and that made it easy to set me up for a lynch.

Yeah maybe.

But it doesn't matter. The only world where we lose is where BL or choxorn is mafia (doubt there is a 4 person team, otherwise we would've lost already)

If Zack and choxorn were mafia with Kennigit they would've won yesterday with you not being able to vote.

So there is only one orc left.

If BL wins, it sucks because of the tracker claim but well played anyway.

The only work to be done is in the world that choxorn is mafia really

and i sort of doubt that

but its a conversation i'll have ant final 3 because backwards logic always dies tonight if the game isn't over

 

[Visorslash]

Not sure how townie that response is choxorn, but I'll give it a pass for now

 

[Visorslash]

Well if there is a kill last night it proves sprig isn't the mafia

i'm obviously not the mafia

backwards would've tracked you going nowhere and hes never getting lynched anyway

and the only world he is mafia is with you sprig so that doesn't work

so the mafia is then always choxorn/zack

(unless you lied about going to 0 str but I doubt you do at that point)

 

[Visorslash]

literally the only world where we lose is if choxorn is some sort of third party or mafia

probably

 

[Sprig]

Case against Sprig:

- sided with Kennigit in yesterday's lynch, trying to push choxorn

- no kill last night when he was the only person unable to carry out abilities and there's no doctor/roleblockers left and sprig was the only person being tracked

There's no defense for these two things, and they're pretty damning.

No one else makes sense. Sprig does. It's pretty clear imo.

That all?

That is pretty weak and spurious argument. Ever single player left alive knows, that as scum, none would even dare to be left on the same side of the lynch as Kenny. before the day even started it would have been bus central.

You also conveniently ignore that at 0 strength my vote didn't even matter.

As for the last point, I touched on it above. it was in your best interest not to kill last night. since only having 2 townies on lylo is better than 3.

 

[Visorslash]

"That is pretty weak and spurious argument. Ever single player left alive knows, that as scum, none would even dare to be left on the same side of the lynch as Kenny. before the day even started it would have been bus central."

Which is true.

 

[Visorslash]

choxorn

are you happy with me lynching you tomorrow for you to kill zack so we win

it solves all questions

 

[Visorslash]

it basically takes care of all outcomes

if zack is mafia he still dies
if choxorn is the mafia he dies

so yeah

game is probably locked

 

[Sprig]

my pg is to reduce a scums str to 0

Poison was JHT
Throttler Jarrema most likely or Kennigit
Axe dude either Kennigit or still around

point is, you couldn't do anything (according to you) and we have no kill

What was spores?

my pg basically states there are scum with str 1

sorry

Yeah thought about this and don't agree. There were other strength reducing abilities. The point was moot anyway though seeing as I would assume the win is strength or numbers. (he says not actually having read the rules once, and why break that now!)

 

[choxorn]

You're assuming that there is a tomorrow and that both Zack and I will be alive tomorrow. And hell, I can't be 100% sure that you or BL hasn't been playing one hell of a sneaky game this entire time and is actually the last mafia.

But I'd probably be okay with that, as long as the last scum dies.

 

[Visorslash]

Spores were JHT

And yeah choxorn it is an assumption but its just for future reference

 

[Visorslash]

I'm guessing numbers is the clan vc and strength is the isolationist vc

judging by poison reducing str

but the point is really moot now

 

[Sprig]

but all the mechanics and all that point to him

Zacks summary of why i'm an orc is pretty lame but you suggest here that there is something substantial.

Can you re-illterate because both BL and chox are better than that voting for me on a case of little merit.

 

[Sprig]

Spores were JHT

Spores/poison same thing?

 

[Visorslash]

Zacks summary of why i'm an orc is pretty lame but you suggest here that there is something substantial.

Can you re-illterate because both BL and chox are better than that voting for me on a case of little merit.

Basically, we hit you, nobody died is reason 1.
Zack and choxorn have both been tracked iirc doing nothing
Backwards came forward with results on you soon after day started.

there are some interactions with the scum that look good for choxorn

Spores/poison same thing?

yeah judging by flavour

 

[Visorslash]

Like all the mechanical evidence suggests that you are the last scum

in any case BL is basically lock clear as the only world he is scum is with you (unless scum have a tracker then gg us)

even if you aren't scum, it doesn't matter because zack is the only other possible candidate

 

[Visorslash]

I literally cannot be the last scum due to night actions/etc

I actually just thought of a way (if you are town) zack could accuse me, is because tonight would have been an absolutely clearing night if i injured zack.

but i was asked not to injure so i didn't so thats moot anyway