Now THIS is a bad start!

[Tomoyo]

Tomoyo: i was aware of your amazing result, but i didn't know you were beaten Only 18 turns... well i guess that both you and Tone are approaching the physical limit of such a victory. About your launch, did you pick your opponents or have them random? And what about the map stats? (size, terrain, & so on). Any info would be quite useful. Thanx in advance.

I picked my opponents.

Russia, Greece, Korea, Ottomans, Persia, Sumeria, and Babylon.

I used a 70% pangaea, but I should have probably used a 80% one. I used the "default" climate settings, although wet might have been better (rivers = gold).

I found that the biggest challenge was trying to balance infrastructure and conquest, especially since I used the Inca, who don't get cheap Libraries and Universities. I sent three worker teams to make roads across the world to get all 8 luxuries by Education. I tried to research what the AI weren't gonna, trying to get some free turns that way. I had the luck of starting next to two really weak civs. They fell to about ten knights/cavalry.

I also used a lot of specialist farms later on.

 

[gmaharriet]

Hey, tR1cKy! Congratulations!!! I've just been lurking on your game. Great job!

 

[Vanadorn]

Just took a look and spent some time reading (2 hours) this - great game and congrats on your win (I've beaten only as high as Emporer repeatedly and usually above that, find the game a bit too much like work to be enjoyable). Any Demi, Deity, or Sid win often has my respect. Thanks for letting me know about your thread and once more, congrats.

V

 

[irishlamma]

tricky I would like to thank you again, this thread really helped me with my first game (today) and I think Im doing decent; well sorta anyways.
but anyways I hope to see you post another thread like this again so I can actually kick some aztec butt!

 

[stachnie]

Congratulations

S.

 

[tR1cKy]

Hi U all! At risk of being repetitive, let me say once again that i'm very amazed to see all this enthusiastic support - considering the time spent to produce this log, it's really rewarding

Now, some replies:

Tomoyo: thanx for the info - i owe you... a spaceship?!?
Judging from the civ list, you played C3C. Probably in the vanilla version it's more difficult to have such a furious tech race (no free philosophy tech, no stock exchanges...) - OTOH, the FP provides a 2nd core of relatively uncorrupted cities, and this should help... In conclusion, i don't think i'll be able to beat you or Tone in this race, but it's not important. What really matters is to enjoy the challenge in itself

Vanadorn: glad to see you here, man! THX U very much! Emperor is already a good level... i know some people find high levels unenjoyable because of the limited set of strategies at the player's avail (usually only one: go kick asses as soon as you can )

gmaharriet: THX U!

stickciv: intriguing. I've always thought that starting points are placed only where a minimal landmass is present. You should have played an ultra-tiny map, i guess.

Shadow: it wasn't so difficult at the end. I was counting on Bob being severely crippled by war weariness and i was right. Against a 'healthy' opponent the invasion would have been much harder.

irishlamma: glad to know that something else will come for sure, but i have yet to decide what to do. Probably i'll complete my mod before starting another (wannabe) epic game.

stachnie: kud0s again!

 

[Tomoyo]

tR1cKy: I think the main obstacle in vanilla civ for a Space Race is the lack of three-beaker (look like flasks, though ) scientists. I had almost half my science coming from those little guys. You will need much more uncorrupted cities.

 

[tR1cKy]

I remember the old good day of pacific building... in a couple of games was able to research in 4/5 turns techs in the modern age. After building some research labs in my core i had 4 turns with 4.6.0 - Owned Copernicus and Newton in the same city that had lots of golds. Libraries and universities almost everywhere. I was in democracy.

The drawback is that the tech race was not too fast - it was warlord level. Doing such a thing in emperor is much harder - hey, a good challenge!

 

[tR1cKy]

Hi U all!

Just to inform all the people interested that this gamelog is going to be moved soon in the Stories and Tales section. A few days ago Turner told me that, once the game was over, the thread would have been moved. I've just pm-ed him to inform that the game has been won and the log is finished.

So, next time you'll look for this game log, you'll probably no more find it in the 1st page of the "general discussions" (moved threads disappear quickly from the index), but you have to go to the S&T instead.

 

[Colin4964]

Hi tR1cKy,

Just caught up with the game after Easter. It's posts and stories like this which really make me want to play Civ.

Many congrats. Will look out for your next story.

 

[Aleph-Null]

what did the caveman get on the strength meter?

 

[tR1cKy]

Hi!

Colin4964: thanks! glad you liked it so much! My next "story" will be... well i haven't decided yet. Now i'm trying the GOTM - if i achieve superb results i could even post the log, but it won't be detailed as this one (too much work!)

kenScott: Caesar the Magnificent, of course!

 

[Turner]

Moderator Action: Thread moved to Stories & Tales

Good game, Tricky!

 

[the_corvos]

I enjoy playing in poor starting locations. It makes it much more enjoyable if you do well, and if you don't...well, start up another game.

 

[tR1cKy]

Turner_727: thanks!

the_corvos: i agree. Such a start has been quite a challenge. It made me play like a chess game, planning everything, trying to squeeze out the max from every move, thinking to all the consequences of doing (A) instead of (B) and so on. Usually i don't put so much effort in a game (it's a game after all!) but it's been quite enjoyable.

 

[teccuk]

WOW!

I made a pretty brief rubbishy comment months ago thinkign it was just a short post about a bad start, i come back and its the most gripping story i've read on civfanatics ever!

Fantastic!

Its taken me nearly a fortnight on and off to read it!

 

[PIGGY!]

what was your world ranking?

 

[tR1cKy]

WOW some people is still posting here - and i missed the 1st one, i wasn't following the thread anymore

teccuk: Kud0s well, it didn't start as a story, at the beginning it was exactly what you said, a short post about a bad start.

PIGGY!: first, welcome to CivFanatics' Forums! care to join for a lager?
I'm not sure what you're asking exactly. If you are referring to the final ranking, the one with the warrior at the end of the game, it was "Caesar the Magnificent" (what else? ) If you mean something else, i'm pretty sure it can be found on the final posts after the game is over, in which i reported some interesting stuff about the game, such as the score progression. Anyway, feel free to ask again (a more detailed question) if you don't find what you're looking for.

 

[Chieftess]

This is one of those nice come-from-behind stories. Reminds me of one of my first deity games as Persia (back in vanilla 1.29f), but they were in half-tundra, half-grassland, and Rome had a stack of 8-10 legions approaching. Luckily, I had iron, and my immortals won, and kicked Rome off the (very skinny) continent). I even got a Great Leader out of that, and rushed a FP closeby for a future palace relocation.

I still don't think that start is ugly. 1 fish, plus a good 4 hills to use (getting close to 10spt in the capital).

 

[Lord_Iggy]

I think he said it was ugly because he ran out of space after building his second city, not because it had particularly bad tiles.