Nubia First Look

[Guandao]

Well, this is a big surprise.....Not Mali, Not Ethiopia, Not Zulus, but an African Civ which has never been in the franchise except for mods

I like Amanirenas as a leader (she's the queen who defied the Romans), but Amanitore will do nicely. I noticed how big sized she is.

Makes me wonder about the SE Asian DLC civ....is it really Indonesia like Eagle Pursuit said?

 

[Uberfrog]

Love the inclusion of Nubia. Everything about the civ, screams fun and a exciting game. I am wondering though, does the inclusion of Nubia, basically mean Ethiopia is out?

I'd be very surprised and disappointed if that were the case. Nubia is more culturally similar to Egypt than their neighbours to the south, and there's plenty of space on the map. If we can have Greece, Rome and Macedon(!), we can certainly have Egypt, Nubia and Ethiopia!

 

[shaglio]

The Pitati looks OP . . . unless the accompanying patch nerfs ranged units.

 

[Guandao]

I'd be very surprised and disappointed if that were the case. Nubia is more culturally similar to Egypt than their neighbours to the south, and there's plenty of space on the map. If we can have Greece, Rome and Macedon(!), we can certainly have Egypt, Nubia and Ethiopia!

Yeah, Ethiopia is very different from Nubia. They both deserve to be in the game.

 

[stealth_nsk]

I wonder about the time frame of this scenario, because since the scenario seems to give a hint that the second leader might come from Egypt, we could pinpoint who that leader is.

Actually if you look at Amanitore reign time (starting at 1 BCE), Cleo is actually closest Egypt ruler to it. So, I don't think the scenario timeline has anything to do with rulers.

 

[Wingednosering]

Love the inclusion of Nubia. Everything about the civ, screams fun and a exciting game. I am wondering though, does the inclusion of Nubia, basically mean Ethiopia is out?

Definitely not. Nubia is closer to Sudan than Ethiopia.

50% production towards ranged units. That is just insane as i think of it. That must be like 1 UU archer every 2 turns in the capital on Epic speed. Amazing defensive or attacking potential. (With the 50% boost from military card from ancient era)

Possibly. They definitely have an OP skill set on paper, but they also have some drawbacks. It seems likely that their UU is super expensive, given all the production boosts they get for them. I imagine it will even out to be about the speed of a regular archer to train early.

They're also forced to settle on desert tiles to get the most out of their UI's district building bonus. Making a desert city house a ton of districts is a common strategy, but hard to get going because of the production requirements. For Nubia it's easy.

By the time their UU is obsolete, their small production boost is going to help them very little. Ranged units fall off in usefulness after the crossbowman and the mine upgrade really won't help for long given the limited number of mined resources in the game.

Since their late game (and even mid-game) bonuses are so minor, they're going to have to make an impact quickly. Their position in any teir lists will depend entirely upon their UUs production requirement.

 

[Brutus2]

Have to say I have been pretty happy with the all the civs they have added so far but I do worry about "power creep" each new civ seems to be shooting to the top of the power tiers. Obviously it's too soon to say where Nubia will fall but getting up to 40% increase in all district production and half cost on all ranged units with faster promotions seems pretty strong. I'm sure they will have a desert start bias but even without, just getting a 20% increase on districts is nice.

 

[slyone14]

Yeah, Ethiopia is very different from Nubia. They both deserve to be in the game.

OKay, awesome, appreciate it guys. I was just reading and the name Ethiopia kept popping up, I didn't think they were the same country, but at some points it appeared so. All clear now!

 

[shaglio]

I guarantee in my first Nubian game I'm somehow wind up starting in a massive jungle

 

[Janskey]

It might be best to settle your cities on the edge of the desert, because no city is going to use all the tiles in range anyway. Build the UI and the districts on the desert side. There probably won't be too many good spots for cities like this, though.

For Amanitore's agenda, I expect something like «dislikes civs that have too much unbuilt tiles»

Isn't that already one of the random agendas? Maybe she likes districts since there's the +production thing.

 

[Zaarin]

I'm rather sure @Zaarin will be very pleased !

I may have made a squeal of delight when I saw the video.

Love the inclusion of Nubia. Everything about the civ, screams fun and a exciting game. I am wondering though, does the inclusion of Nubia, basically mean Ethiopia is out?

I don't see why. Sure, Nubia is stuffed in between Egypt and Ethiopia, but culturally Ethiopia is very different.


Given how poorly attested Meroitic is, does anyone happen to know what language Aminatore is speaking? Nobiin, perhaps?

 

[Wingednosering]

It might be best to settle your cities on the edge of the desert, because no city is going to use all the tiles in range anyway. Build the UI and the districts on the desert side. There probably won't be too many good spots for cities like this, though.

Isn't that already one of the random agendas? Maybe she likes districts since there's the +production thing.

Agendas are usually pretty poorly thought out. I imagine something stupid will be included, like "Likes civilizations with a large amount of ranged units" or something along those lines. Maybe she'll dislike people with mined resources so she's encouraged to take them over?

[Edit]: I bet she'll have the same ability as Montezuma, but for strategic resources instead of luxuries.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Maybe she will dislike civs that aren't mining their hills or mine-able resources to their full ability.

 

[Vahnstad]

I don't know if i like Nubia. I probably preferred Ethiopia or Mali, but the one thing i do like about it, is that Egypt finally will have a nice leader.

 

[PYITE]

50% production on ranged units - I wonder if that includes bombard units. Similar to how oligarchy includes anti cavalry class.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

50% production on ranged units - I wonder if that includes bombard units. Similar to how oligarchy includes anti cavalry class.

I think, since Ranged was capitalized in the description, that it only applies to the Ranged unit line, ie slingers to machine guns.

 

[nzcamel]

https://www.civilization.com/news/entries#civilization-vi-nubia-dlc-amanitore-first-look-new-civ

"SCENARIO: “THE GIFT OF THE NILE”
Nubia lies in modern-day Sudan, south of Egypt. So, for the new “Gifts of the Nile” Scenario, you lead either Nubia or Egypt to see who will control the Nile River. The winner is the first civilization to complete seven Temples dedicated to Amun in this 125-turn scenario."

Great to see a slightly longer scenario too

(italics and bolding in Cerilis's quote re scenario length added by me)

 

[earlc]

Whoa, so many replies already!

I'm at work so I didn't get to look to closely, but awesome civ selection. I'm very pleased. I didn't even bother putting Nubia on my Africa wishlist because I never expected it!

Also shows how the TSL game isn't much of a consideration, if at all, for these DLC. And I definitely don't thing Ethiopia is out. Will probably be part of an expansion!

So excited to get home.

 

[Zaarin]

I don't know if i like Nubia. I probably preferred Ethiopia or Mali, but the one thing i do like about it, is that Egypt finally will have a nice leader.

That would be nice, but no second leader has been confirmed yet. With luck Akhenaten will be added to Egypt eventually. The fact that we haven't heard anything, however, makes me suspect that India will get a second leader with the SEA DLC.

 

[slyone14]

That would be nice, but no second leader has been confirmed yet. With luck Akhenaten will be added to Egypt eventually. The fact that we haven't heard anything, however, makes me suspect that India will get a second leader with the SEA DLC.

That's true, but do not forget it could very well be a second SEA civ. EP and I are hoping its Vietnam, while we both doubt it and think our chances of winning the lottery is better, but it could be, however slim. But, I do honestly hope its a second civ.