Nukes As Population Control

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A few years ago I had a social justice warrior knock on my door for Greenpeace. My roommate warned her she won't like me and good luck preaching.

She wanted to save the whales. Personally I like whales as well, my grand parents did work on a whaling station in the 1940's though and my mother was born in one.

I more or less told her Greenpeace has probably doomed more whales than they have saved. The average Japanese for example doesn't like eating whales and they lose money hunting them but when you get SJW bleating to them about not eating whales you make it a point of nationalism. Rationally the Japanese for example probably would have stopped eating whale by now but the conservative elements of Japanese society help fund it because they don't like being told what to do by outsider.


We would not stop eating cows for example if the Hindus told us to stop doing it. One thing I hate is stupid SJW who actually make what they are bleating about counter productive.

If you want to save whales shut up.

Same thing about going out to save all these people in the 3rd world with aid. Note I am not opposed to helping out the less fortunate at all. A famine like Ethiopia in the 1980's is now a standard occurrence every day now. Its a waste of time helping out nations that lack the infrastructure/civil society/institutions to make use of that aid.

Another example would be US policy in the middle east and supplying countries like Saudi Arabia with state of the art weapons systems. That is not gonna go well lets face it.

Anyway this SJW got offended when I suggested the best way to control population would be via using nuclear weapons, I was not being to serious but it was fun winding her up and it was the fastest and most efficient way of reducing the worlds population from 7 billion down to 2 billion which was what it was around WW2.

SJW's also want to eliminate nukes so we could do that by using a few of them. The environmental effects of a nuclear war would be bad of course but probably less destructive long terms than humans existing with our current population (and rising). Lets face it our species is parasitic, and something like Chernobyl has had beneficial results for the local wild life. A nuclear melt down is less destructive than local humans eating, crapping, driving cars and basically existing.

A more humane way with out nukes I suppose would be removing all state controls on things that are bad for us. Hell heroin, cocaine, alcohol could be handed out for free at high school and university. If we depleted our species into extinction that would be good for the planets and cats might eventually evolved thumbs. I would rather pay tax to hyper evolved kittehs than my government.

Evolution is caused by mutations, speed it up with a bit of atomic help. SJW also don't seem to like it when you point out that if they want to save the planet suicide is an option to reduce their carbon foot print but they do not like that idea for some reason.

When I run for office as world dictator I could make this official policy to run on. Imagine the sound bites you could use- "Vote for Me its the Last Vote you Will ever get". Not quite as catchy as "Make America Great" I admit and I do not have the great Orange (hair).

Overall though think of the long term benefits a nuclear weapons as population control policy could have. Just like WW2 wages would go up, it would be good for the environment and even the short term effects are still better than the short term effects of well us!!!!!

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I dont think nuclear weapons would be good for population control. to reduce the population by five billion, its less population control, and more world wide destruction of everything humanity ever had.
 
I dont think nuclear weapons would be good for population control. to reduce the population by five billion, its less population control, and more world wide destruction of everything humanity ever had.

Actually, it's the 3rd World that is contributing to this explosion in population. 1st World countries are experiencing a decline in population; for their native populations at least.
 
I more or less told her Greenpeace has probably doomed more whales than they have saved. The average Japanese for example doesn't like eating whales and they lose money hunting them but when you get SJW bleating to them about not eating whales you make it a point of nationalism. Rationally the Japanese for example probably would have stopped eating whale by now but the conservative elements of Japanese society help fund it because they don't like being told what to do by outsider.

Greenpeace did not impose the moratorium. It was passed by the International Whaling Commission, of which Japan is a member. Your naked assertion that Japanese only eat whales out of nationalism is pure fantasy.
 
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I think chemical weapons would be the better solution if we are going down that path. They are just as effective as nukes without all that pesky fallout and electronics-frying EMP afterwards.
 
If you want to control the population, just put something into the water supply that sterilizes people.

Sell it as an equalizer: "Women have suffered under hormone imbalance because men expected them to take the anti baby pill, now we make sure that they get to know that feeling" to make sure the SJWs don't complain.

The rich can avoid being sterilized by drinking fresh, bottled water that will cost around ~50 Dollars per Liter, and in 2 generations or so, we have a world devoid of poverty, with only rich people left who will then build the greatest Civilization earth has ever seen. At least I think that's how that works.
 
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I more or less told her Greenpeace has probably doomed more whales than they have saved. The average Japanese for example doesn't like eating whales and they lose money hunting them but when you get SJW bleating to them about not eating whales you make it a point of nationalism. Rationally the Japanese for example probably would have stopped eating whale by now but the conservative elements of Japanese society help fund it because they don't like being told what to do by outsider.

The Japanese also heavily subsidies most of their agriculture, in fact produces more rice then they can consume while importing race as a means of helping developing economies of Asia.
Whaling industry only started after ww2 due to starvation and now is being more or less kept running for food security reasons as the new generation instead have access to much better foods I'd imagine the whaling industry will eventually contract as the post war generation which consume whale meat die out. The fact that Green peace is for saving the whales has nothing to do with Japans policies, Japan is a massive consumer of seafoods with large industry just because green peace protest isnt going to effect Japanese fishing practices in the slightest.

The only effect is the new generation of Japanese are becoming more ecologically conscience with their eating habits is going to change this. More serious issue is ocean fish stocks being depleted. Eg the black sea for example

The solution is we should consume less, recycle more and be more environmentally aware.
 
with only rich people left who will then build the greatest Civilization earth has ever seen

The island of all Alpha Double Pluses experiment would seem to disagree with this notion.

But how else will we signal the aliens watching us that we're ready?

Send them a friend request on Facebook? Or better yet, bombard them with "my body is ready" memes.
 
Fun fact: there's an inverse correlation between education levels and birth rates. If you want to deal with overpopulation you should be a strong advocate for women's education, especially in less-developed countries (as RomanKing alluded to).

So ironically becoming an SJW yourself would be a more effective plan for what you want to do. :)
 
All we need is a retrovirus that reduces fertility, like the Krogan genophage in Mass Effect. Once birth rates are in line with our abnormally low infant mortality things will take care of themselves.
 
The island of all Alpha Double Pluses experiment would seem to disagree with this notion.
It's just like with Communism - the concept is sound, they just didn't do it right!

So ironically becoming an SJW yourself would be a more effective plan for what you want to do. :)
Not really my fight, but still - advocating for women's rights is not being an SJW.
 
Depends heavily on the community I would say. There are those who are against Social Justice as an idea, those people will hardly ever make the distinction. And then there are those who just can't stand the self-absorbed, self-serving, disingenuous nature of so many self-proclaimed social justice advocates on social media who will make that distinction and be on the side of social justice when they think it's reasonable, and against it when people lie, make emotionally loaded arguments, or only look at one side of any given issue.
 
Problem with sterilisation is population would get very old before disminishing. A world populated by elders is not a veey attractive prospect and would lead to all kind of practical issues.

I think installing a carousel a la Logan's Run would be much better. Problem is to decide the age limit. I would go with 45. There is not reason to live more than that.
 
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