Obama Endorsement Thread X: Bill Richardson

Even I am seeing the whole Bush Stole the Elections are getting a bit old and we should drop it and move on. We have the 2008 elections to look forward to.

For rhetoric, I agree, since people will whine about us having sour grapes. For strategy, though, it is relevant. We can forget Florida since we know they'll rig it no matter what, for example. Also, we should concentrate our Ohio efforts in areas with non-Deibold voting machines, and possibly counter-rig it in optical scan counties.

I don't trust the Democrats to just "counter-rig" it, though, so I don't know if that's a good idea.

However, if we could get our grassroots machines out in full force on election day then Ohio, if even they do rig it, will still probably go Democratic.
 
For rhetoric, I agree. For strategy, it is relevant. We can forget Florida since we know they'll rig it no matter what, for example. Also, we should concentrate our Ohio efforts in areas with non-Deibold voting machines, and be prepared to counter-rig it in optical scan counties.

All this talk of rigging elections...cynical much, Sims? ;)
 
All this talk of rigging elections...cynical much, Sims? ;)

Denying observations and other credible evidence isn't pessimism or optimism. It's rejection of reality.

At the same time, people perceive reality differently, so there's plenty of people who think the elections in 2000 and 2004 weren't rigged.
 
I think Bill just wants to be on the winning team just as he did when he was with Hillary. I do not buy his explanation. The only thing that has really changed Obama wise is that he is more likely to win the nomination than he was months ago so he is either slow or an opportunist. Either way I wouldn't want him as a running mate.
 
Richardson associates Hillary with Bush as part of the status quo when he says we've had the same families running the show since Bush Sr., and also says that she feels entitled to the presidency. He doesn't say why she feels entitled, but the only logical conclusions are that she was the First Lady, let her political career take a backseat to Bill's, or that she "has 35 years of experience" and has made connections within the party and is extremely loyal to the party, and thus deserves the nomination over a newcomer.

Every single time Hillary utters the word "experience," she plays into the role Obama has written for her as the establishment candidate. This is the same thing Reagan did to Democrats. As Obama puts it in The Audacity of Hope, "Reagan offered America a common sense of purpose that liberals seemed no longer able to muster. And the more and more his critics carped, the more those critics played into the role he'd written for them -- a band of out-of-touch, tax-and-spend, blame-America-first, politically correct elites."

In a speech the same day as Richardson's endorsement, Obama mentioned "[Hillary Clinton, George Bush, and John McCain]" eight times, in reference to the war in Iraq. Now, not only did Hillary support Bush in Iraq, but she also will continue the dual bloodline that's held the last three Presidencies. He paints his opposition into roles very well, and both Hillary and McCain have fallen into playing them or, in McCain's case, has been forced to be more conservative to energize the GOP base; McCain's role will be running for a third Bush term, and no amount of back-peddling will erase his flip-flopping on tax cuts nor his support for the "Bush-McCain War."
 
Denying observations and other credible evidence isn't pessimism or optimism. It's rejection of reality.

Labeling speculation and misrepresentation as 'credible evidence' is lunacy.

At the same time, people perceive reality differently, so there's plenty of people who think the elections in 2000 and 2004 weren't rigged.

Yeah, mostly sane people. Loose Change believers are free to believe otherwise.

The elections werent rigged. Its a mental health decision to accept that fact.
 
The elections werent rigged. Its a mental health decision to accept that fact.
It took me a long time to accept the fact that the elections were not rigged and that Bush was the legitamate winner in both 2000 and 2004. :sad:
 
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