oh , Macmaster's Arc or the Turkish-American War

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back in the good old days of 2014 when the writing was on the wall and ı was openly termed as a sick f word , an idiot on the minimum , ı had the temerity to remind that ı was a time capsule , to be referenced long after what's to happen happened and one of the sides got wiped out . Don't , if the typical r16 post gives you an headache .



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first , the context . The Turk is a mythical creature . Married to a mermaid , he rides a dragon to work , scales , wings and fire in the belly . Totally despicable , he is much reviled by all the good people that populate this earth and survives only through consistent caprices of History . Take Americans ... Always ready to hate the Turk's guts and always ready to bring them out , but compelled to play for time . Like good old Brits cornering all the Opium of India and Americans forced to buy second rate from the second rate Ottomans and the Porte doing much evil work of surviving until the dawn of the 20th Century . With Greeks (to their detriment) wooed by all the West and failing to see . That had they had surrendered to the Yanks with all their hearts , there would be an American Crusade to give all Asia Minor to them . The only reason that there has been a Turkish Republic is that America refused the Mandate they were supposed to get . Armenians would get their chunk , Kurds would get their state , Greeks would get their "provinces" all over the place . While Mustafa Kemal would get a bullet in the head , for still blaming the entire Ittihad (this CUP thing to English speakers) for his defeat in Bolayır , 1913 . Because Mandate would mean "Peace" and that would mean less of the Turk killed , Americans refused their spoils of war , being co-equals of French and British Empires , and instead went home , to police the hemisphere in the name of the White Man .


enter MacMaster , some scout commander or something , discovering the Iraqis at 73 Easting or whatever , some location in the desert during the 1991 War . And processing the Iraqis accordingly . Why , no crime in that . It's War and people die in War and wars are won by killing more people of the enemy and stuff like that . It's not like that had ı been in his place , ı would get out of my tank , go over to Iraqis and sing with them around a camp fire . '91 War , devised as breaking up Iraq , as Step #1 , to create the 'stan , a Nation State for the Kurds so that they can be the seed for a Civil War in Turkey . Which forced Ankara , the so called Secular State and all that , to bring Islamists to the top , 'cause you know , they alone can speak to Sunni Kurds . And can avert the horrors of the Civil War ; Bosnia much evident . ı know , still nobody believes me that the Serbians kept bombarding Ankara with the video tapes of their glorious "soldiers" raping Bosnian women , with the constant mention of the NATO doing F word nothing with all their glorious aircover of the Serbs .


enter MacMaster , this time a formation commander or something . Not that we people were able to read his name in the newspapers of mid 2000s , when he arrives during Step #2 , the Invasion of Iraq . At Telafer , a Turkoman location between the "Kurdish" places of Iraq and Syria . ı know this will be considered low , even in my standarts , but anyhow . Empires have long used "diversity" to break up contagious existance of peoples who might be tempted to rebel . Porte , have moved tribes up and down , down and up and Türkmenler might be rather "useful" to the Turk . So , Americans citing terrorism , come for a little ethnic cleansing and laugh at all the howls of protest from Ankara . Am not the only one that knows A-K-P was given the Green Light in return for a Kurdish State and at least "autonomy" for Turkey's Southeast .


that he was not up to task , or more truthfully , he got caught up in a caprice of history , can be proven by later events . Namely , the American Alliance with Iran under Bush II and kept active by the spineless jerk , that Obama dude . We horse bandits are much hated by all and a shtstorm approved by all sides . With taking out the Turkoman first . Iran was gambling , true , but they had confidence that they could weather Kurdish popularity on a global scale . Mind you , the Syrian Civil War was raging at the time and Iran was cheating . They had sold Hizbullah of Lebanon for increased control over Baghdad ; but New Turkey had proved to be anything but heroic liberators of the oppressed Muslim Brotherhood in the field . Accidents could happen ; instead of uniting their minorities against the horrors of a Sunni invasion of Syria , they could instead face a Secular success story of Alawites , a not-Sunni people . They had to steal the victory and everybody will laugh at this and Russia arrived as well to bolster the case .

this is about 2013 , when bein' a Turk is on the way to become banned under A-K-P , with banks and goverment offices losing the TC from letterheads ; that initials being of the Türkiye Cumhuriyeti . The chemical thing to lead to a "discovery" that Americans were tricked by conspiracy and the Syrian air defences they utterly demolished was a waste and stuff . All meant to push the cowardly Congregation controlled army , which was no longer "Turkish" at all , into a cauldron of hate in Syria , uniting the Arabs and Kurds and Christians and all . To discredit the Turk , to prove he can't fight , to prove he has no honour , to prove he deserves everything bad and he deserves nothing good . A NATO ally discovered supporting Jihadists and long oppressing the Kurds and massacring Christians and risking a nuclear war with Russia . Why it didn't happen ? Because r16 said "hell no"? Because Obama hated PM attempting to push the head of the so called national intelligence service to speak at a meeting at the White House ? Despite Obama already knew what the presentation would be and considered it utterly weak , for asking for Americans to invade Syria , kill everyone and then turn it over to Ankara , instead of a desired 100 000 Turkish deaths or so ? No , because of the Gezi Events / Taksim Riots . A-K-P's lower ranks were weak beyond belief . They would crack in the invasion and the Turk would come back [from the grave] , with another century to the the Republic !

you awake ? Yeah , this is what ISIL is all about . Kurds becoming the heroic defenders of the Mankind against the unstoppable hordes of heart-eaters ? Check . A NATO ally supporting beardies ? Check . How could it ever fail ? Telafer . Where the American advisors left in due course and the Iraqis 'ing started fighting back . Simply because the American Advisors could no longer hold them back from basic military stuff like line your AK on the target and pull the trigger . Iranians rushed in once again and while like everybody died in Telafer it boosted the confidence and this is exactly where we are . The Glorious Shiny Uniforms of Barzani having no heart for a fight ; and this solely done to boost a better variety of the Kurd . The seperatists , the gods of war , the ones that get the beardies brown their jihadist pants .

and why was New Turkey was allowed to fight ISIL ? Because the Prime Minister of the time , the Little Imperialist , saw an opening and was more accessible to ISIL , you know , with stupendous stuff that there was no way New Turkey could arrest a suicide bomber before he / she blew the lot up . Right after 103 demonstrators died in Ankara during an election period . After the first elections went awry . With lack of co-ordination from the White House . They could have got the seperatists guarantee the Presidency of increased powers to the PM . Secretly , so that the seperatists could brainwash the radical Left and close that avenue to the Turk . But then when one feels like he is godlike , stuff can happen . And the Qatari - Saudi fight was escalating and ISIL is more of a Saudi thing . This at a time when the Congregation - Party fight was so much visible , yet the Congregation was 100% successful in getting every single available general/admiral billet for its members .

the young American of the future ... You might really feel it was really heavy handed , unjustified . But let's say we Turks know we will all die , survivors in gas chambers . This might not be "known" by 100% of your ancestors , Americans of today . Still it is the fact . Had the positions had been reversed , the only thing your ancestors would say would be "We will squash you like a bug."

sure enough , had America chosen so , every general and admiral of the Army of Petrol would be a Congregation mole by 2020s . Like almost every officer , like almost every NCO , too . These people could lose every war , could backstab every Turk in every situation , would even willingly defile every she-Turk at the doors of the gas chambers . Leaving the dead to their lessers , because pro-necrophilia "fatwas" can be issued in New Turkey without much risk . Why the Disgrace of July 15th ?

oh , yeah , why the current Afrin operation ? Them gods of war dying for no return and stuff , without American support . Like bombing Ankara ... Germans refused to sell Leopard IIs to the Turkish Republic . Leo Is were given as military aid , with provision that they could not be used against the Greeks or the Kurds . 2006 and Leo IIs are sold , without restrictions , because they will be Turks who get run over by them . Ah , all the TVs show sand coloured tanks going South and Germans can not tell whether the footage is recent . Leos then fire some of the 170 or so armour piercing rounds , as reported gloriously by all the channels . Can't tell whether this is a valid military tactic like proving they outrange anti-tank missiles at the hands of the seperatists . Which is yet another crowning achievement of New Turkey . A tank is a very tough thing for people not well armed enough . And nobody could really decide it was a joke that if a country was caught supplying to the seperatists , the leader of that country might see his /her limo as a test bed for the terminal effects of the same on holstery . Blackmarket provides tons of Kalashnikovs , even some Grails but the luck has held so much . Until it became untenable with all the Qatari/Saudi/ CIA TOWs flowing to the beardies . Or perhaps it's about the "excellent" marksmanship that prevails in New Turkey . When ı was at the compulsory military service in Ankara in the year 2000 , we conscripts were given a tour of the facilities . Asked which was the most ancient and was shown a M-48 . While like a hundred people rushed to the Leo I or had to make do with M-60s , there were only two of us with a two striper to make sure we didn't break anything . You know , ı even turned that funky machine gun turret around and talk came to stuff . Me firing HE on buildings and two striper insisting on sabot , breaking load bearing element with APFSDS or whatever the hell that's called . Any building too thick for a 105mm HE round asks for a LGB , if one was ever to require my opinion but anyhow . In any case , that's 170 rounds that need to be replaced , from factories , now run by "Muslims" .


and of course , the PR , the PR . Ammunition gloriously made in New Turkey . Nobody ever remembers seeing anything like this before . Troops making the almost racist handsign ; not even card carrying members would be daring to do that before . Always in company with so called Free Syrians . Actually , it is repeatedly mentioned the operation is for the benefit of the so called Free Syrians . See, their last stronghold , namely Idlip , is being reduced . Ankara tried so hard to impress the Russians to make Damascus stop . And because everybody hates Americans , with a few with truly true reasons , Anti-American talk whips up public frenzy for a possible war with Russia / Iran , as "desired" by America . The PM started with mention of dead American advisors to the seperatists , now calls the troops "My Mehmet" instead of Mehmetçik . The second is a term of endearment - translated as "Little Mehmet" . Mehmet is bigger than Little Mehmet , afterall . And Mehmet will march to Idlip , with his bearded friends . Just like the Disgrace of July 15th was the analogue to Çanakkale , with 250 dead compared to 255 000 overall casualites , Afrin matches Sakarya . So that an MP of A-K-P can propose a law to give the title of Gazi to the PM . Even if the heat can immidiately fall off . We heard the aerial branch ofthe Army of Petrol heroically bombed Menbij , a place where Americans tread . There was a phone call with Trump and we now hear seperatists are idiots who mistook a sonic boom . If Army of Petrol bombs a place , it would heroically say so . This despite never opposed in the preceeding days ; Army of Petrol also heroically said there was no Congregation vermin within , before thousands were sacked after 15th of that July .

because it's all about PR , Ankara sternly refuses they were chewed by Trump . Incredibly interesting fact , White House says this was the first ever time Trump was stern with New Turkey . Can't tell what makes Asia Minor different from Canada to Australia , Mexico to British Isles . Ankara is an equal of all ; the guy who brokered the 2015 deal with the seperatists without full seperatist support and thus banished from visibility is back . Naturally has grown a beard and says Turks are involved with 90% of whatever happens in the world . Because they are now with the almost racists (instead of the seperatists) "Muslims" love the word Turk ; not hearing what themselves say . When the hype was not enough , the Foreign Minister claimed Washington was offering them a buffer zone of 30 kilometers , upping that up from 10 after being so much impressed by the glory of Army of Petrol . Because they were for so much time "advised" in a such way , "Muslims" put words to the mouth of Americans : Tillerson says he didn't offer such a thing . To off that the Foreign Minister then says Washington would "call"

enter MacMaster . Confesses Washington is confused , he and his boss were in Davos when some fool in DC refuted the buffer zone thing . There is nothing wrong with being an Arab . There are a lot of wrongs of becoming an Arab Army , an Arab Goverment and an Arab country ,especially in the 21st Century , especially after a long time when the Republic was a 'ing role model for the Middle East and stuff . Young American of the future , MacMaster can not help but think that he can't fight the Turk as long as he is not converted into not an Arab but a cheap imititation of the said Arab . Because he saw action and Arabs are so much a hoot when there are all sorts of Baghdad Bobs and Comical Alis running the show . So much determination that he fails to even wonder if there is something written on the wall and am not betting a single cent that he will correct that .


the young American of the future , the Americans of today are bored with such minutia . Just hot off the press : A commander of the Army of the Petrol speaks with the PM on the phone , Inshallah some hilltop will fall soon and indeed it does . In stark contrast to the commander in 1922 that committed suicide after repeated "failures" , delaying the time-table and all that . "Muslims" walk on water ; this Afrin is an American defeat , right after Afghanistan and Iraq and they haven't put one single American in a casket on the way to home ! Imagine what they will be saying if that was to happen . The Speaker of the Parliament says "Jihad" is necessary , well convinced that MacMaster will do nothing as he has accepted his position ; by explaining himself when called to do so . Oh , Americans would even ignore at least one country opposes ancient American practice of naming the towns of the former Republic after locations in Mordor , with me now in Cirith Ungol posting . This giving an unjustifiable aura of "strength" and all that . And "Zombie Invasion" is the code for the time the Turk comes back . You know , America is even arming itself against that , with some thousand flamethrowers sold very publicly , capable of at least handling zombie toddlers ...
 
 
hmm, replies ... My threads usually do not get replies . Am in contact with science only through the F1 screen and the sliders . (Civ III player here .) Obviously fills me with a wannabe enthuasism for the methods and stuff ; gotta know why , so gotta hypothesisize . My apologise in case of misspelling . That's two already and ı can really make real mistakes , too , being human and all that . So ... Is it because it's like all serious and no reference to that (a) am a fifty year old virgin ...

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and an idiot on the minimum ? Well , Adriana declares she won't pose undressed anymore and that's a week of "Society talk" for the inclined; so that the lumpen masses of the country can take comfort in the fact that New Turkey rules with the heroic dude who is her love thing has put some modesty in her . No mention of her best "kanki" , an equivalent of "sister" Ambrossio or whatever . Thinner than Lima by DNA , used to walk the runway only once a year recently and having 3 to 4 months of Cardio and all that jazz , because a live Victoria's Secret show is not a place where you can photoshop wrinkles and sags out . At 30 plus those women have a right to live as normal women live , right ?

stupid conspiracies as usual ? So stupid that it can't be classified into a normal scheme of things , like a typical loony Leftist order of the world ? Guess what , a month back the PM offered business tycoons that the emergency rule imposed after the Disgrace of July 15th is a good thing . In that in return for tycoons shutting up in criticism and speaking up in pro-Party PR , his administration will make Labour strife go away . Strikes banned during the period of crisis , being non patriotic and all that . Enter metalworkers . The economy is fake , no statistic remains negative , but it seems cheap and qualified labour is still a thing and this country exports ever burgeoning numbers of cars and the like , metalworking sector grew 30% or something last year . So , the Unions wanted a 38% hike in wages . The bosses citing Slovenia as a grave threat , now that Renault or Fiat or Toyota might take their businesses there , offered 3 % . The Unions and mind you , there are like two kinds of unions in Turkey . The Lefties as usual and the Glorious pro-A-K-P ones and the Lefties naturally stated they were working for 1.68 Euros per hour and the EU average was 25.00 something . The bosses doubled to 6 % . Lefties called for a strike , the bosses took their offer back , threatened a Lock-out and added a 10 % alongside the 3% . The 10% is a seperate item that won't enter into the computations next year and the like . The Lefties agreed on the date of the strike . The Goverment banned it , being at "war" and evil Americans could always manipulate the markets . Them Yanks loving the Kurds so much and all that . The strike could then be a catalyst . The Lefties declared they would stop work for an hour each day . Immediate agreement at 24 % . See , the Lefties would be like radicals , like 30 to 40 % of them Kurds anyhow . They might strike with wild abandon , occupy factories and take arms even , if the Turk was to rise from the grave . You see , Pentagon hates the Turk so much , will not even allow a single blade of grass growing up . In New Turkey , being a Turk is a crime .

to oppose that , because too much bleakness would inspire people to look elsewhere (like those who rise from the grave) the almost racists think shout they are heroically winning because it's codified in their racist stuff that they will . While the PR shows it's them Free Syrians , namely Arabs , fighting more . And it's like extremely deep in the web and stuff that seperatists much prefer to surrender to the Army of Petrol ; troops of which even manage to save Kurds from immediate execution .

only because every clan and even every village has a "Brigade" of its own in the Syrian Civil War and Gulf money was freely flowing , the Sunnis have shown an almost American like mobility to find "work" . Alvin Toffler , man , says mobility to give up in one company and join another is what made America great . So , it can be tracked from their own internet posts that those Free Syrians at times have been linked to the likes of Nusra . The Main Opposition has been , you know once again , called a traitor for mentioning that . That's the secret of New Turkey PR . ı can understand the A-K-P's love for Muslim Brotherhood ; they can think that they are not "Turks" or "Ottomans" and the 1920's Egyptian variety is not the original Ihvan that was built on hate of the "Turk" and "Ottoman" . Especially anyone from the Rumeli as it was the Albanian Egyptian dudes that stuffed the original El Kaide like 200 years ago . Alright , a harsh word , maybe smurfed would do ? Qatar needs a more Arabized outlook to rule this country because the next idiot that will sit on the Saudi throne has clearly indicated he will not accept any Qatari pollution of his Middle East . Brotherhood in Arms has long been a powerful unifier of different peoples ; as Ankara thinks it will rule its neighbours and stuff .


ı have seen it in the rants thread that New Turkey has used a game in PR ; to save people from headaches , it's down below in a short one

caught trying to pass off footage from a video game as footage of their troops fighting in Syria


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now ı first saw it in some strategy site . The owner and stuff saying a Turkish sniper kills a bunch of Kurds . The guy is long accused of being an American , British , Israeli and German spy by the Iranians , at least according to his statements and he has been an avid "opponent" of the Regime , Russians and the Iranians in the Syrian mess . Don't know why he didn't catch it , maybe he never had time to play FPS stuff . Yeah , some computer game footage taken and shown as gloriously glorious victory . By a news outlet that employs people that can dare to talk against the Goverment , even discuss Evolution (the theory) . In addition to the glorious old days when America wanted borders redrawn and they would be redrawn so stop resisting stuff . See , their target audience would be opponents , more likely to be richer type of guys who would have a computer at home and like tired of playing League of Legends and sample the game in question . You see , America and Qatar and a whole bunch of people want anything pertaining to "fighting" qualities of the Turk questioned . Because all the young ones saw that the so called Turkish media rips off games and tries to lie . Please , don't give me that media people are straight idiots anyhow ; these people sold the idea that Congregation was the bright democratic future of the country . Does one know any Turkish youth with half a brain wants to emigrate and it's like encouraged as a State Policy ? Strangely , nobody seems to desire to settle in Qatar , the land of our dearest friends . Despite a thousand assurances each day that New Turkey owns the place , even heroically stopping a coup against Sheik Whateverhisname .

solution ? Of course a raygun with darkened beam and find a bunch of them on a dark night . Bring in artillery to cover with noise muffling the falls of the dead and start from the rear .


(b) or maybe letters from Mordor are not interesting ?

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oh , that would be a blackmark against my name , "insulting the President" works in anywhere . Couples during divorce blame each other with the phrase . But then ı have a full blackboard full of such marks . And like posting years ago that this was an American convention from the 1970s , and specifically that gives a credibility to the current stuff .

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a little personal history here . ı have distant relatives in the Congregation . Couldn't tell who now but one of them visited us in the 1980s and the newspaper had a picture of that woman that caused the fall of a UK Goverment Minister in what might be the Prufomo (?) scandal . Nothing particularly nude , ı think whole body behind a chair and the shoulders and the legs showing and the guy tears it away . They actually tried a couple of times to get my older brother in and gave his name to the city guys . See , the State would be supporting students in return for 2 years of compulsory service and my older brother remembers at 1000 liras it was an useful amount . But the Congregation was paying 10 000 and nothing declared on what would be required in return . In addition to the even then obvious control on what to think and do ... He is a medical doctor and the location was in the Northeast , wildly beautiful nature and absolutely no issues with the locals . He doesn't consider that 2 years as lost at all .

me ? Was always an idiot . As ı have nothing to do , ı think about the times and imagine there were maybe only two attempts to get me in a religious sect . At Anatolian High . One might not be even Congregation ; but ı was uncomfortable at that 2 minutes when he tried to start up a conversation and he became uncomfortable with his imagination of suspicion in me . The other was , (let me see) some guy who was selling second hand military magazines on Sundays . He was about my age , perhaps two years older , and had many friends at the Military High who might sell me posters and stuff . Invited to the "bazaar" , a street affair where you could buy all sorts of printed material and as you wouldn't be surprised those Military High guys laughed at me . Much to the annoyance of the seller guy , who had found me smarter than the reporting of the boys and girls - ı imagine there were some 200 of us when ı won the exam and started in the Anatolian High in '81 ... Magazines ı would buy and they didn't have anything ı didn't have already and am not the guy who would mark the walls with posters . Imagine yearly checks were always a failure with the obvious fact ; was a loser . Particularly a guy who swindled me twice at the exchanges of magazines at both times we did that ; he was possibly far too vocal .

years pass and am an idiot and bang . Don't know how but as the distant relatives rise in State and some guy jokes , some other guy repeats it and bang . Because am an idiot and some unmentionables have taken a National Offence that my idiotness is a star attraction in the museum with like Afghan Minister for Agriculture promised a spectacle and he utterly failed to get me confess am gay or whatever and the fun went against the guy who promised it in the first place , it dawned on the "Democrats" . ı was a risk ! Turgut Kazan , as Leftist as you ever can imagine and solemn opponent of the Congregation , describing the looks of yours idiotly to his consort , who has very limited vision (as widely known in the country) and the first thing to see is the idiot ... As they walk to the museum ; but at least the sunlight was bright , right ? The idiot has to be further disparaged . So , bang , out of the blue , they discovered ı was married to a British Page 3 girl ! Hilarious , according to some people , but certainly not to me . You see , they were telling all sorts of lies and making them stick and totally afraid America turn the other cheek , with yours idiotly with total lack of morals , relative of high performers . When one was paralysed with an illness , the then President reportedly sent his personal doctor for a visit and stuff . And of course never saw the Brit , ever ...

years pass and ı travel to Cirith Ungol and webcafes start to use Windows 7 . Which doesn't have the command to "Carry" or "Copy" and you have to mouse-move the folder that contains your downloads bodily to your USB stick . Stuff can happen , files lost , damaged . What does your idiotly do ? Forms many folders , starts to name them as a1 , a2 after some time . Saved CFC threads always go to a2 as an example . Oh my , newspaper just yesterday reported Congregation now refers to its members a-some number , too ... It's only the Starfleet and Sergeant Hicks' only safe way that keeps this idiot safe ...

not that anyone believes it . Rumour has it that ı have threated the Russians with nuclear weapons . You know , despite repeated references to the absurdity of the notion , people insist everything relates to them and they alone understand everything . ı "didn't" , ı lifted the ban ; when a mushroom happened only thing ı would be expected to do was a rant here anyhow . And everybody knows new forum software limits posts to 30 000 words . Simply because some Army of Petrol peacekeeping unit tried to advance on Halep and Syrians opened artillery fire on its path , some Russian has even disrespected the Army of Petrol and declared the Olive Branch Operation a sham , poorly prepared and merely intending to polish our Sunni Arab brothers . Who despite the PR can not do anything without the "withering" firepower of the Army of Petrol .

see , Anatolian High was a jacket and tie thing and while obviously ı survived the first couple of years with my older brother making my tie in like every fortnight and me tightening and de-tightening as required , ı grasped that in the end . Adding 20 months of work in the museum , ı have like 5 to 6 years of tying my own tie . While an idiot , am not that completely lost .


tell and draw . This post reinforces the pampered existance of A-K-P that thrives on anti-Americanism ; which is allowed by the US willingly and as an above-all-priority . It also goes a some way , no , actually a long way , to show the opponents of the Party would serve American "interests" as much , except the conversion into Arabs thing . You see , even the sacred right of the CEOs to bring cat of nine tails to work is violated . God willing there will be c and d , now that MacMaster (who would be like in History as proof of what Americans can do) places himself in a subservient position , very much willingly .
 
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