OJ Simpson dies
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warpus
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I arrived in Canada a couple years before OJ committed the murders and wasn't an American Gridiron fan at all so had no idea about him at all. I only ever heard about him on SNL and ofc news reports about the trial. It did seem a bit odd to me that there seemed to be this.. how should I put it.. royalty-like veneration of the guy in the air. It's like he was in another class than your average person, and not just because he had money. It's like he knew all the right people behind the scenes or something? To me he was just some random murderer who was getting special treatment for some reason
If you want a Canadian to have heard of you as a sports celebrity, you need to play hockey.
Not that I follow hockey much anymore. But my point, which you mostly got, was that you don't have an actual monarchy, so you invented one out of various celebrities. And while Taylor Swift doesn't occupy the same political position that a member of the Royal Family does, people still pay a great deal of attention to what she says and does, and she can sway a lot of opinions and actions.
Not that I follow hockey much anymore. But my point, which you mostly got, was that you don't have an actual monarchy, so you invented one out of various celebrities. And while Taylor Swift doesn't occupy the same political position that a member of the Royal Family does, people still pay a great deal of attention to what she says and does, and she can sway a lot of opinions and actions.
Joij21
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Complete nonsense, the UK has celebrity culture besides just the Monarchy. There's literally no difference between the USA and UK in that regard.
What will happen to the estate of OJ Simpson?
Former football star died without having paid the lion’s share of the $33. 5M judgment a civil jury awarded to the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman
BY ANDREW DALTON ASSOCIATED PRESS
LOS ANGELES — O.J. Simpson died Wednesday without having paid the lion’s share of the $33.5 million judgment a California civil jury awarded to the families of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman. Acquitted at a criminal trial, Simpson was found liable by jurors in a 1997 wrongful death lawsuit. The public is now likely to get a closer look Simpson’s finances, and the families are likely to have a better shot at collecting — if there is anything to collect.
Here’s how the next few months may play out.
The probate process
Whether or not he left behind a will, and whatever that document says, Simpson’s assets will now almost certainly have to go through what’s known as the probate process in court before his four children or other intended heirs can collect on any of them.
Different states have different probate laws. Generally, the case is filed in the state where the person was living when they died. In Simpson’s case that’s Nevada. But if significant assets are in California or Florida, where he also lived at various times, separate cases could emerge there. Nevada law says an estate must go through the courts if its assets exceed $20,000, or if any real estate is involved, and this must be done within 30 days of the death. If a family fails to file documents, creditors themselves can begin the process.
A stronger claim in death?
Once the case is in court, creditors who say they are owed money can then seek a piece of the assets. The Goldman and Brown families will be on at least equal footing with other creditors, and will probably have an even stronger claim. Under California law, creditors holding a judgment lien like the plaintiffs in the wrongful death case are deemed to have secured debt, and have priority over creditors with unsecured debt. And they are in a better position to get paid than they were before the defendant’s death. Arash Sadat, a Los Angeles attorney who specializes in property disputes, says it is “100%” better for the claimant to have the debtor be deceased and their money in probate. He said his firm had a jury trial where their clients got a $9 million jury award that the debtor appealed and delayed endlessly.
“He did everything he could to avoid paying this debt,” Sadat said. “Three or four years later, he died. And within weeks, the estate cuts a check for $12 million. That’s the $9 million plus interest that I had accrued over this time.”
The executor or administrator of the estate has much more of an incentive to dispense with debts than the living person does. “That’s why you see things like that happening,” Sadat said. But of course that doesn’t mean payment will be forthcoming. “I do think it’s going to be quite difficult for them to collect,” attorney Christopher Melcher said. “We don’t know what O.J. has been able to earn over the years.” Neither Sadat nor Melcher is involved with the Simpson estate or the court case.
Fred Goldman, father of Ron Goldman, hugs his wife Patti, as his daughter, Kim, left, reacts during the reading of the not guilty verdicts in O.J. Simpson double-murder trial on Oct. 3, 1995, in Los Angeles. Simpson was acquitted in the murders of Goldman and Simpson’s ex-wife Nicole. MYUNG J. CHUN/ASSOCIATED PRESS
O.J. Simpson
What assets did simpson have?
Simpson said he lived only on his NFL and private pensions. Hundreds of valuable possessions were seized as part of the jury award, and Simpson was forced to auction his Heisman Trophy, fetching $230,000. Goldman’s father Fred Goldman, the lead plaintiff, always said the issue was never the money, it was only about holding Simpson responsible. And he said in a statement Thursday that with Simpson’s death, “the hope for true accountability has ended.”
What about trusts?
There are ways that a person can use trusts established during their life and other methods to make sure their chosen heirs get their assets in death. If such a trust is irrevocable, it can be especially strong.
But transfers of assets to others that are made to avoid creditors can be deemed fraudulent, and claimants like the Goldman and Brown families can file separate civil lawsuits that bring those assets into dispute.
Former football star died without having paid the lion’s share of the $33. 5M judgment a civil jury awarded to the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman
BY ANDREW DALTON ASSOCIATED PRESS
LOS ANGELES — O.J. Simpson died Wednesday without having paid the lion’s share of the $33.5 million judgment a California civil jury awarded to the families of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman. Acquitted at a criminal trial, Simpson was found liable by jurors in a 1997 wrongful death lawsuit. The public is now likely to get a closer look Simpson’s finances, and the families are likely to have a better shot at collecting — if there is anything to collect.
Here’s how the next few months may play out.
The probate process
Whether or not he left behind a will, and whatever that document says, Simpson’s assets will now almost certainly have to go through what’s known as the probate process in court before his four children or other intended heirs can collect on any of them.
Different states have different probate laws. Generally, the case is filed in the state where the person was living when they died. In Simpson’s case that’s Nevada. But if significant assets are in California or Florida, where he also lived at various times, separate cases could emerge there. Nevada law says an estate must go through the courts if its assets exceed $20,000, or if any real estate is involved, and this must be done within 30 days of the death. If a family fails to file documents, creditors themselves can begin the process.
A stronger claim in death?
Once the case is in court, creditors who say they are owed money can then seek a piece of the assets. The Goldman and Brown families will be on at least equal footing with other creditors, and will probably have an even stronger claim. Under California law, creditors holding a judgment lien like the plaintiffs in the wrongful death case are deemed to have secured debt, and have priority over creditors with unsecured debt. And they are in a better position to get paid than they were before the defendant’s death. Arash Sadat, a Los Angeles attorney who specializes in property disputes, says it is “100%” better for the claimant to have the debtor be deceased and their money in probate. He said his firm had a jury trial where their clients got a $9 million jury award that the debtor appealed and delayed endlessly.
“He did everything he could to avoid paying this debt,” Sadat said. “Three or four years later, he died. And within weeks, the estate cuts a check for $12 million. That’s the $9 million plus interest that I had accrued over this time.”
The executor or administrator of the estate has much more of an incentive to dispense with debts than the living person does. “That’s why you see things like that happening,” Sadat said. But of course that doesn’t mean payment will be forthcoming. “I do think it’s going to be quite difficult for them to collect,” attorney Christopher Melcher said. “We don’t know what O.J. has been able to earn over the years.” Neither Sadat nor Melcher is involved with the Simpson estate or the court case.
Fred Goldman, father of Ron Goldman, hugs his wife Patti, as his daughter, Kim, left, reacts during the reading of the not guilty verdicts in O.J. Simpson double-murder trial on Oct. 3, 1995, in Los Angeles. Simpson was acquitted in the murders of Goldman and Simpson’s ex-wife Nicole. MYUNG J. CHUN/ASSOCIATED PRESS
O.J. Simpson
What assets did simpson have?
Simpson said he lived only on his NFL and private pensions. Hundreds of valuable possessions were seized as part of the jury award, and Simpson was forced to auction his Heisman Trophy, fetching $230,000. Goldman’s father Fred Goldman, the lead plaintiff, always said the issue was never the money, it was only about holding Simpson responsible. And he said in a statement Thursday that with Simpson’s death, “the hope for true accountability has ended.”
What about trusts?
There are ways that a person can use trusts established during their life and other methods to make sure their chosen heirs get their assets in death. If such a trust is irrevocable, it can be especially strong.
But transfers of assets to others that are made to avoid creditors can be deemed fraudulent, and claimants like the Goldman and Brown families can file separate civil lawsuits that bring those assets into dispute.
You have managed to completely miss my point. I never said that people in the UK don't also have celebrity culture. I said the Americans lack the Monarchy, so they are compensating for it with celebrity culture.
Joij21
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That makes no sense. Then explain why Brits have it when they still have a monarchy!
1. It seems to make sense to everyone else here.
2. This is getting off-topic, so feel free to make a new thread if you want to keep arguing.
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