Palin Speech: I smell fear.

Because
a) It's incorrect, and elads to confusion
b)you're lumping people like me in the same category as Barack Obama, which I find deeply insulting.
Should I lump you in with, say, Fred Phelps or such?

Actually, Fred Phelps is a registered democrat...so in that respect, he is in the same category as you and Obama.
 
Actually, Fred Phelps is a registered democrat...so in that respect, he is in the same category as you and Obama.

Primo: so? I could join the Conservative party, but it wouldn't make me, would it?

Secundo: no, he is not in the same category as me. I'm a Red and a liberal; neither Phelps nor Obama are.
IF you want people in the same category, try Luxembourg, Liebknecht, etc.
 
Because
a) It's incorrect, and elads to confusion
Well, there are more of us than you, so I think you should switch. :p

b)you're lumping people like me in the same category as Barack Obama, which I find deeply insulting.
OK, this I can understand. ;) But look, on the American political scale, Barack is a leftist, and so are you - you're just further left than he is. Why is that so insulting?

Should I lump you in with, say, Fred Phelps or such?
Did you just compare Barack Obama to Fred Phelps? :lol:

But seriously. If you wanted to label Phelps a conservative, and me a conservative, you could do that. My positions aren't especially similar to his (I think I probably have more in common with Obama) but since the best way of describing our politics is conservative, you certainly could do that. (Although I admit, I prefer to describe Phelps' politics as '******* insane,' but that's just me) An American would know that not all conservatives have the same positions, just as not all liberals have the same positions. ;)

It's really not that complicated.
 
Well, there are more of us than you, so I think you should switch. :p
I doubt it, actually, since your definition is pretty much confined to North America.
Anyway, the other definiton is much more established, through age and convention.


OK, this I can understand. ;) But look, on the American political scale, Barack is a leftist, and so are you - you're just further left than he is. Why is that so insulting?
Because Obama isnt left; he is a capitalist nationalist who wishes to curtail civil rights, and does not embody someone who believes the state should own the means of production at all.


Did you just compare Barack Obama to Fred Phelps? :lol:
Obama is probably closer to Phelps than I am to Obama.
 
Because Obama isnt left; he is a capitalist nationalist who wishes to curtail civil rights, and does not embody someone who believes the state should own the means of production at all.

:hammer2::wallbash:

Funny stuff.
 
Thats pretty much the definition of intolerant Civg, so yeah.
Really, just wow. I guess in MobBoss's world, we should blindly accept what people say and not disagree with the person. Tell me, do you favor a single party state?

Thus you are intolerant of those people. Get it yet?
I'm sorry MobBoss, but I am not intolerant to Republicans and Conservatives. Disagreeing with their views =/= intolernce. In fact, I would happy vote for a Republican if I agree with his/her views.

No, thats not an ad hom against you. Its using you as an example of intolerance....effectively.
Ever called the kettle black much? I recall that you are quite intolerant towards Democrats and Liberals. Also, it is an ad hom against me to use me as a so called example of "intolerance". As I stated above, I'm not intolerant towards Republicns and would vote for one if I agreed with the canidate's views.

McCain (note I did not say "McBush") said it best that we should take off our political hats and put on our American hats. I myself as with many Americans are getting tired of the partisan BS. Even I am willing to be less partisan and stop throwing feces like monkeys.

I am glad that I am born in the US where I am free to agree or disagree with other people and politicians. I am glad that I don't live in a nation that oppresses people to think for themselves and become party zombies and drones.

Errr. Huh?
You are a grown man in your forties, correct? I would expect to see some kind of control and common sense from you. But yet you stoop down to the level of throwing feces at other people. Take McCain's advice and take off your Republican hat and put on your American hat. There is no need to further divide this nation.
 
More liberal-hating content from the usual 'liberal' poster. Man, you could work for the conservatives.

The hate probably stems from the obvious hypocrisy that is at play here. "No sex before marriage unless you're a whore, but if a Christian girl does it we should support her as good Christians." We have self-righteous pricks rushing to defend a weak link for their own interests. What's not to like? ;)

And, of course, taking reference from a bunch of high school students, who apparently love to party, paints a very accurate picture of the political situation. Maybe partying does affect intelligence.

Well what are you going to do once someone has made a mistake? Add another mistake upon the first one? You seriously have no idea what we truly believe. Have you ever heard of the saying, "To err is human, but to forgive is divine"? Well it is much more important to be forgiving and allow people to come back from mistakes they have made than just allow more and more mistakes happen. That is certainly what we believe that you cannot undo the past but what you do now is just as important and making the right decision now. It is just as important to bring someone back into fellowship after they have done something wrong, knowing that they have learnt their lessons from the previous mistake.
 
You are correct, it is the disgusting vitriol and frantic scurrying by the left and media that will secure the independents for the GOP.

:lol: lets see, a nobody from alaska being sarcastic and having no substantive part of her speech or the media revealing factual parts of her life which contradict her own word...

don't get it twisted patty, independents aren't impressed with malkin-esque sniping at a candidate.
 
From what I've read, Trig is a local native (or Norse) word meaning "strength". Willow and Bristol are places in Alaska.
In that case, "Trig" should have been spelled "Tryg" (presumably for either "Trygvasson" or "Tryggvasson"). And I still think "Bristol" is a terrible first name for anybody.

I didn't watch the whole thing but from the excerpts I gathered she was preaching to their base mostly. I don't see how she will attract independent voters with this rhetoric, maybe their depending on her looks for that. :lol:
Depending on her looks... with that hairstyle? :rotfl:

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Oh, gosh, she does bring out the shallow, snarky remarks... but honestly, her running for VP makes as much sense as our own Stockwell Day thinking he's capable of being Prime Minister. In other words, both of them are woefully underqualified (and no, I don't think it's merely because her kids have silly names and her hair is a disaster :p).
 
Oh, gosh, she does bring out the shallow, snarky remarks... but honestly, her running for VP makes as much sense as our own Stockwell Day thinking he's capable of being Prime Minister. In other words, both of them are woefully underqualified (and no, I don't think it's merely because her kids have silly names and her hair is a disaster ).

So I assume you are more dismissive of the far less qualified Obama then?
 
So I assume you are more dismissive of the far less qualified Obama then?

Depends on what you describe as qualified I guess?

I'm not US-based so may not understand these things as well, but his experience seems to be a few years in a minor state senate and a few more in the national senate, during which he has written some books but not generated any meaningful legislation.

Her experience seems to be a few years as mayor of a large village and eighteen months as governor of a backwater state, during which she has got herself in to some considerable trouble through corrupt practice.

I don't see either as having great practical experience, but it does seem odd from a Republican perspective to have chosen a VP with no real history if your main point of advantage is the relative experience of your candidate.

BFR
 
Well what are you going to do once someone has made a mistake? Add another mistake upon the first one? You seriously have no idea what we truly believe. Have you ever heard of the saying, "To err is human, but to forgive is divine"? Well it is much more important to be forgiving and allow people to come back from mistakes they have made than just allow more and more mistakes happen. That is certainly what we believe that you cannot undo the past but what you do now is just as important and making the right decision now. It is just as important to bring someone back into fellowship after they have done something wrong, knowing that they have learnt their lessons from the previous mistake.

Oh, really? You think I am heathen and can't debate some theology?

Like I said later, the Christian mindset is not = the conservative mindset. So why do they love the sinner in this case but not love other sinners that don't matter to them? The answer is oh so clear.
 
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