capnvonbaron
Democratia gladii
Hey Civvers,
I really need to get my act together. I'm a solid monarch-level player (most the time, heh) and that is kind of my relaxed difficulty level. I can win Emporer and Immortal matches before, but those are always a huge struggle it seems like. Diety I'm just kinda meh, about... its not relaxing or very fun to me.
Now, there are probably some things I am missing anyways that could maybe make me a comfortable Emporer or Immortal player. Sometimes I even find myself lost on what to do on monarch games, even though I'm in a winning position. Take this game for example.
I am Peter of Russia, on a fractal map, with huts turned off as the only change from standard gameplay. Solid starting place, good surrounding land overall, plenty of resources. Early game, I decided if I didn't do something about my nearest neighbor Augustus, I'd end up pinned in a corner with no bronze and a horde of prickly Praets blocking my path to claiming the real good land. So as soon as I got some chariots together, I started harrassing Auggie, pillaging his land and denying him metal. Unfortunately, taking his cities was out of the question since A) most of them were on hills, and B) he scored the 'war bows' random event that gave all his archers C1.
So, thats where things went goofy. I decided my best option was to Oracle->Construction (mistake?) to have any chance vs. Auggie. It turned out ok, since he managed to whip a huge stack of archers and actually went on the attack for a bit (tho completely ineffectively -- he lost a dozen archers vs my loss of a cat and a couple of my chariots). I managed to take his bronze-city-hopeful (Neapolis) with chariots and cats, hooked up the bronze, and created a few axes to help things along. It was still a slog though, and through continual denial of first bronze, then iron, then horses, I kept him reeling until I claimed all his land:
He managed to spam out eight cities including Rome, only one did I burn -- I had only four total, since most of my food/hammers went to military units. My economy kinda tanked, and now here we are with me in a relative tech basement, sitting on a heap of land, with a happy Sal for a neighbor and a grumpy everyone-else on seperate continents. What I'd like to know, fellow civvers, is this:
Where do I go from here? Can I still pwn the rest of the world by the 1500s with Cossacks and arty, or did I screw everything up too bad for that to happen? Do I turtle and just use my lovely land to zip to a space victory? Work on killing guys as I can? I'm kinda at an impasse. Give me your thoughts! Let me know what you think about my diplo situation, and where to go up the tech tree. Chide me for all my unimproved land and shoddy empire management, ragged army, everything! Don't hold back!
Attached is the 1240AD save (BtS 3.19, no mods). We have room for two or three more cities, I just scored Parthenon, and have a new GM and an old GPr waiting for orders. We are finally fiscally solvent anyways since courthouses and the FP went up, but I'd like to hear what ideas people have for what kind of economy I should aim for now, how to improve my conquered territory, etc.
Thanks in advance!
I really need to get my act together. I'm a solid monarch-level player (most the time, heh) and that is kind of my relaxed difficulty level. I can win Emporer and Immortal matches before, but those are always a huge struggle it seems like. Diety I'm just kinda meh, about... its not relaxing or very fun to me.
Now, there are probably some things I am missing anyways that could maybe make me a comfortable Emporer or Immortal player. Sometimes I even find myself lost on what to do on monarch games, even though I'm in a winning position. Take this game for example.
Spoiler :
I am Peter of Russia, on a fractal map, with huts turned off as the only change from standard gameplay. Solid starting place, good surrounding land overall, plenty of resources. Early game, I decided if I didn't do something about my nearest neighbor Augustus, I'd end up pinned in a corner with no bronze and a horde of prickly Praets blocking my path to claiming the real good land. So as soon as I got some chariots together, I started harrassing Auggie, pillaging his land and denying him metal. Unfortunately, taking his cities was out of the question since A) most of them were on hills, and B) he scored the 'war bows' random event that gave all his archers C1.
So, thats where things went goofy. I decided my best option was to Oracle->Construction (mistake?) to have any chance vs. Auggie. It turned out ok, since he managed to whip a huge stack of archers and actually went on the attack for a bit (tho completely ineffectively -- he lost a dozen archers vs my loss of a cat and a couple of my chariots). I managed to take his bronze-city-hopeful (Neapolis) with chariots and cats, hooked up the bronze, and created a few axes to help things along. It was still a slog though, and through continual denial of first bronze, then iron, then horses, I kept him reeling until I claimed all his land:
Spoiler :
He managed to spam out eight cities including Rome, only one did I burn -- I had only four total, since most of my food/hammers went to military units. My economy kinda tanked, and now here we are with me in a relative tech basement, sitting on a heap of land, with a happy Sal for a neighbor and a grumpy everyone-else on seperate continents. What I'd like to know, fellow civvers, is this:
Where do I go from here? Can I still pwn the rest of the world by the 1500s with Cossacks and arty, or did I screw everything up too bad for that to happen? Do I turtle and just use my lovely land to zip to a space victory? Work on killing guys as I can? I'm kinda at an impasse. Give me your thoughts! Let me know what you think about my diplo situation, and where to go up the tech tree. Chide me for all my unimproved land and shoddy empire management, ragged army, everything! Don't hold back!
Attached is the 1240AD save (BtS 3.19, no mods). We have room for two or three more cities, I just scored Parthenon, and have a new GM and an old GPr waiting for orders. We are finally fiscally solvent anyways since courthouses and the FP went up, but I'd like to hear what ideas people have for what kind of economy I should aim for now, how to improve my conquered territory, etc.
Thanks in advance!
).. But yes - workers.. need much more (built some 10 more).. also need 2 or 3 settlers (good cities can be done actually..)... lot of forests still around cities - production boost that really helped to finish forges/barracks, got fail gold from few wonders, managed to finish University of Sankore (not target it but just got it 
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) or Moscow into GP farms... instead, I farmed the crap out of Cumae and have been springing GS from it. Got a random GSpy somewhere else and burned it in a GA with the GP to make civic switches and boost production on Taj (which I got for a second GA). So far I'm around 1600AD and I have a decent cossack/treb army. I'm ready to crush Pericles and Rags (who did end up DoWing Lincoln... good call Smilingrogue!) with that while I tech cannons. My plan is to also build a secondary stack (it won't have to be a big one, HA!) and vassal Asoka before he caps to Sal. Then I'll turn on Lincoln if I need to 
He sure had plenty of damn wonders by the end of the game though... I've *never* seen a non-IND AI whore that many wonders!
