Petition- Dedicated Moderator of the Mafia/NOTW section.

I honestly believe that people can survive without a moderator closing the thread for a night phase. Are people really going to get up in arms if someone posts "sorry forgot to vote today" or something during the night? I don't think I've ever seen a problem with night posting.

Sure, if a mafia moderator can act only as a mafia moderator and do administrative things like that it's fine, but cfc isn't organized like that.

The like 10 reports a year or whatever is negligible and I don't really buy the idea that people don't report because there isn't a mafia moderator. I have nothing to report.
 
Well, perhaps you don't. We just had a situation where all we could do was shout helplessly as a rule break occurred in a game, and had to wait for the player to correct himself.

And we just had a situation where the game host said "No more posting" and posting kept happening.

Every single other website where there's mafia has someone like, enforcing the rules. Helping the players with mod-level activities.

If it doesn't affect you personally, that's fine.

The grand majority of the rest of us would like someone here doing stuff about that sort of thing.
 
I guess my main beef is that abstain and don't care seems to be counted as a "no" vote.

Okay, people aren't sure why it's needed. They're in the minority. Are they being counted as "No"?

It's a strange system. Can't think of reasons why we need a moderator? Okay, several others here can, and can cite examples of why it's far superior to have a dedicated moderator of the section, and I'm not just talking recent examples, but we have those, too.

I have a challenge for everyone who is opposed to the idea or thinks there is no reason, even though there clearly are, and it used to be the situation where we had two moderators:

Name one reason why we shouldn't have a moderator here, that trumps all the reasons why we should.

Not being able to think of reasons why we need one is not the same as an argument against.

Abstain is not an argument against.
 
Irregardless of how this ends up, I honestly don't think locking threads for a night phase is a good idea unless there's a good reason to think people will break the game rules imposed by the host. Ekolite wanted to post in the thread before the night phase was over in order to remind people to send in their orders. If the thread had been locked, he would've had to wait around for the mafia moderator to come and open the thread back up again before he could post that, or do the update. This requires the mafia moderator to be online at specified times for pre-determined tasks, such as opening the thread again at the end of the night phase so the update can be posted, and then to also to be available around the clock if the host decides they want to leave another comment, both to open the thread for them, and then close it again afterwards. That's not a realistic expectation, and I think it'd be too constraining on everyone involved to attempt such a system.
 
I don't think closing the thread for night is a good idea, even if the host himself is a mod. It just doesn't make sense. The other arguments are all valid, like having someone on hand to edit out accidental rule breaks.
 
Camikaze said:
Irregardless of how this ends up, I honestly don't think locking threads for a night phase is a good idea unless there's a good reason to think people will break the game rules imposed by the host. Ekolite wanted to post in the thread before the night phase was over in order to remind people to send in their orders. If the thread had been locked, he would've had to wait around for the mafia moderator to come and open the thread back up again before he could post that, or do the update. This requires the mafia moderator to be online at specified times for pre-determined tasks, such as opening the thread again at the end of the night phase so the update can be posted, and then to also to be available around the clock if the host decides they want to leave another comment, both to open the thread for them, and then close it again afterwards. That's not a realistic expectation, and I think it'd be too constraining on everyone involved to attempt such a system.
Click to expand...

This is a fair enough argument. I have, however, seen it used effectively on several other forums.

Probably the strongest point in favor of the 2+2 forums are their fantastic hosts and moderators who are astounding with their dedication to their games, opening and closing threads with precision. I don't hand out such high praise like candy.

But sure, that particular function may not be used much.
 
But this isn't 2+2. Most of us just play mafia in our spare time, it's not the main principle of these fora.
 
Takhisis said:
But this isn't 2+2. Most of us just play mafia in our spare time, it's not the main principle of these fora.
Click to expand...

It's not the main principle of any of the forums I play mafia on. Hasn't stopped the moderators from doing their jobs anywhere else.
 
I think the point is more that opening and closing a thread for a night phase requires attention at set times, which isn't something a single mafia moderator can effectively or consistently do. It'd probably be possible to get around-the-clock coverage if there were like four mafia moderators, but not with just one. And there aren't going to be four mafia moderators.
 
Oh I agree that closing the thread at night is overkill, unless the host of the game is a moderator.
 
Is there an arbitrary limit on "mafia moderators" and if so, why?

Observe:

http://www.giraffeboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21

Note the number of moderators.

Somehow, the board doesn't come unglued.

I am not saying everyone else is better, or that different ways are wrong because they're different, I am just challenging unchallenged assumptions and arbitrary limits, because that's just how my mind works.

Why is something arbitrarily decided? Why are certain customs even a custom? Why is tradition a reason for anything? Etc.

I do not accept "m'Inunno" as a reason for stuff anymore. It's a pet peeve of mine, I guess. I've been that way since I was like 7 years old. Did not go over well at church.

Please do not take my challenging of everything you say to be a sign of disrespect. I was actually told by teachers that it was the opposite, in fact.
 
Zack said:
So what? Off-Topic isn't "the main principle of these fora," should OT not have moderators?
Click to expand...
OT is moderated? I thought the schism was intended so that most of the OT was not to be moderated.
Zack said:
Oh I agree that closing the thread at night is overkill, unless the host of the game is a moderator.
Click to expand...
That should be left for the GM of each game to decide, provided he can get a moderator to cooperate.
 
Mr. atpg wants to do a lot of things ex officio, so I felt it needed pointing out.
 
OT is still moderated, but one sub forum is lightly moderated, and one heavily and with stricter rules.
 
You better not stop playing games because "moderating takes so much time," or I will... do something!
 
You cheat, Docta Smith!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Yakostovian
Invitation to the Mafia Champion - Season 11
Replies
0
Views
2K
Yakostovian
Yakostovian
RRRaskolnikov
Invitation to the MU mafia championship (s10)
Replies
13
Views
3K
Master Radishes
Master Radishes
Recursive
Retirement from Vox Populi
2 3
Replies
54
Views
5K
Giza
Giza
Eyswein
  • Sticky
6otM195 Announcement
Replies
0
Views
494
Eyswein
Eyswein
Eyswein
  • Sticky
7otM07 Announcement
2
Replies
21
Views
1K
Bleidraner
B
Back
Top Bottom