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PH11: Hypermegaglobalnet

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by pholkhero, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. pawelo

    pawelo Chieftain

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    The a-top marble spot looks promising in terms of prod, though it has too much deserts.
    North tundra cow-fur city has some nice wooden hills to be worked out...

    Hope you'll get as much luck as I did tomorrow :)
     
  2. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    That's BUG. I'm using the Advanced Unit Naming system :D

    The warrior's real name, in the ancient era, should be: "Clifton Curver Troy's Warriors" but that's too long :( now, in the ancient era, I just call them by their City's name :yup: I've been toying with different era names for all my units. It's a lot of fun, and gives the impression of the passage of time to my armies.

    enough plugging the mod. Maybe that desert NW of DC might be nice for production. we need to find 2 good prod sites for those wonder cities. also, could we chop the pyramids if we settled west of DC by those fish and silks??
     
  3. Conroe

    Conroe √∞

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    I'd put the Settler down by the cows and fur. Extra happiness early on is never a bad thing. Plus I'm sure we could use the extra commerce from those furs to fuel our research. True, its not a great site long term, but the short term benefits IMHO would be worth it.

    Edit: On second thought, it looks like there won't be enough food to work the furs. Bummer. This sure is a food poor map! :sad:

    Is that a bug? An extra +2 health to go along with -2 happiness? That doesn't make any sense unless the health is permanent.

    I would vote for the capital, as well, for the Pyramids. But why would the GE points get overridden? I'm probably missing something somewhere ... As long as we don't build any non-GE wonders in the city until we have our 2 GE's, I would think it would be OK.

    With 6 continents, I would have expected it to be an isolated start. And since our variant requires us to circumnavigate the globe, it gives us an extra incentive to get some Caravels in the water and meet those other civs!
     
  4. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    1 ~ i think, by irrigating around that SE lake and the cows for now would give us enough to work the furs and a couple grass hills.
    2 ~ don't know if it's a bug or not, but it sure sucks :D
    3 ~ we just won't be able to run any specialists in the capital for the rest of the game if we put a GE or GS wonder there.
    4 ~ techinically, there should be one-per-team ~ i did custom continents. so we should all be relatively isolated.
     
  5. Conroe

    Conroe √∞

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    For the rest of the game? Why? If we only need two Great Engineers, why couldn't we hire merchants after they pop?

    Uhm ... I think that was my point. ;) 6 continents + 6 civs = isolated start
     
  6. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Not necesarily, Conroe..... 6 continents + 6 civs has the annoying tendency of cramping 2 civs in one continent leaving another unocuppied.... We're clearly not cramped, but 2 AI can be.
     
  7. Kodii

    Kodii Ka ICE

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    #*%)@# BUG. No log checking for me I guess. :(

    There is a half-decent inland city that will grab the oasis, floodplains and cattle, but the fur city might be of better immediate use.
     
  8. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    2 questions before playing ( clear anwsers, please ;) )

    - Mids city can't hire merchants later ? IMHO that is :smoke: ... we only need 2 GE for corps and hopefully we'll get the second from Fusion

    - 3rd city..... I know that the land is somewhat subpar , but we need to play well our cards exactly because of that and I sense that we need to choose wisely the place to put the settler. I'm quite reluctant to settle the Cow-fur spot now and would prefer the marble oasis cooper spot ( swap it with NYC if needed ) for the prod, but I would like a team consensus ( or at least a qualified majority ) about this one.
     
  9. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    any of the wonder city's CAN hire merchants ~ obviously, we don't want to until AFTER we get our needed GEs/GSs. though, as oz pointed out, that GE is so far down the line, I don't want to risk losing the corporation to another civ.

    for production, i think maybe that southern city should be the one we settle, though i'm not sure of the spot. The more i think on it, the more i like settling ON the oasis. we have to share some tiles but we get access to water and desert FPs, as well as a couple grass hills, plains hills and the marble & copper. might be nice ~

    edit: oh, *qualified* majority ~ that leaves me out ;)
     
  10. ·Imhotep·

    ·Imhotep· Legendary Builder

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    lurker's comment:
    Well, at least this map has more food than the Boreal map we played in PH-08 :lol: . Good luck, guys !
     
  11. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    I STILL have nightmares about that map. [shudder]
     
  12. pigswill

    pigswill fly (one day)

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    PH08 did have the rare distinction of ending in victory.

    No cottages and no specialists (coz you need to get non-merchant GPs from wonders) on monarch. I'd be truly impressed (and amazed) if this game ended in victory.
     
  13. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Played 15 turns and it was a quiet turnset ( besides the wandering barb archer south of wash

    Only intersting thing was this:
    Spoiler :

    I know that it may not be consensual, but ,taking in account that we can't settle in oasis ( shame on you pholk :p ), I think that it was the best spot taking both cooper and marble and with the food to feed both

    Researched wheel and pottery and started Maths... library in capitol and whipped monument in NY for getting the cooper

    Log
    Spoiler :

    Logging by BUG Mod 2.11 (BtS 3.13)
    ------------------------------------------------
    Turn 74/750 (2150 BC) [30-Dec-2007 22:50:47]
    Reminder: On Turn 89, Finish.....
    Tech learned: Mysticism

    IBT:

    Turn 75/750 (2125 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:04:54]
    Research begun: The Wheel (7 Turns)
    Joy Ashley Lark (Warrior) promoted: Woodsman I
    Washington's borders expand

    IBT:

    Turn 76/750 (2100 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:05:22]

    IBT:

    Turn 77/750 (2075 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:05:43]
    Boston founded
    Boston begins: Monument (23 turns)
    Washington finishes: Warrior

    IBT:

    Turn 78/750 (2050 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:06:05]
    Washington begins: Library (27 turns)

    IBT:

    Turn 79/750 (2025 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:06:41]
    New York finishes: Warrior

    IBT:

    Turn 80/750 (2000 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:06:49]
    New York begins: Monument (45 turns)
    A Farm was built near New York
    Washington grows: 4

    IBT:

    Turn 81/750 (1975 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:07:05]
    Tech learned: The Wheel

    IBT:

    Turn 82/750 (1950 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:07:21]
    Research begun: Pottery (6 Turns)

    IBT:

    Turn 83/750 (1925 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:07:51]

    IBT:

    Turn 84/750 (1900 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:08:07]
    New York grows: 3

    IBT:

    Turn 85/750 (1875 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:08:14]
    Whip anger has decreased in Washington

    IBT:

    Turn 86/750 (1850 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:08:21]
    Washington begins: Warrior (2 turns)
    New York begins: Warrior (22 turns)
    The whip was applied in New York
    New York finishes: Monument

    IBT:

    Turn 87/750 (1825 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:08:44]
    Tech learned: Pottery

    IBT:

    Turn 88/750 (1800 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:08:59]
    Research begun: Mathematics (35 Turns)

    IBT:

    Turn 89/750 (1775 BC) [30-Dec-2007 23:09:12]
    Reminder: Finish.....


    And the world as we know it
    Spoiler :
     

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  14. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    We really need to get moving on The Pyramids. We probably aren't in any danger of losing them but we need the GE to get started as soon as possible.
     
  15. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    I agree, but our research is anemic....

    P.S. We need more workers....
     
  16. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    all ~ my wireless router ist kaput ~ my son busted it right out of the USB port :(

    won't be online until later today for longer -- will post more then
     
  17. Kodii

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    Also played 15 quiet turns.

    T3 1700BC - Washington completes its Library, begins the Pyramids

    T6 1625BC - Boston completes its Monument, so I switch it to military production and switch New York to a Worker

    T11 1500BC - Boston completes a Warrior, I also switch it to a Worker

    The worker can now mine and connect the copper.

    Mathematics is due in 9, I suggest we chop the grassland hill by Washington after its done.

    After New York and Boston complete their workers, we should have enough for a while and can probably afford to settle another city.

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/96336/PH11_BC-1400.CivBeyondSwordSave
     
  18. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    hey now all ~ i'm back, though not on my own computer for now. I still need to get another router, but am not sure i'll be going for a plug-in version this time round.

    anyway, i'll try to take a look at the game today, but we look okay. After Maths, we need Currency, i think, no? it'd be nice if we could get time that w/the Pyramids to run some +3 beaker merchants; that'll help our economy.

    also, have we explored our whole island??

    Roster
    pholkhero >> on deck
    ozbenno
    pawelo
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    Kodii >> just played
    Conroe >> UP NOW
     
  19. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Well, we need 2 GS, so the Great Library is needed, so Aesthetics and Lieterature after Currency. We also need the GA from Music, so Music after Litertature.

    We should chop out the Pyramids and make sure that we get the GE from here before our first GM. In fact we should build aqueduct/Hanging Gardens after Pyramids.
     
  20. Conroe

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    Nothing real exciting to report. Followed the plan, as outlined above ... I :whipped: the Worker in New York for 1 pop. I dumped the overflow into a Barracks. I almost went with a Granary, but decided on the Barracks since this does not appear to be an always peace game, after all.



    After the Barracks completed, NY resumed work on the Warrior that was left in the build queue. Since I can't look at the in-game log, I missed the Barracks completion message. :blush: I queued up an axe before I saved.

    Started a Granary in Boston after the city completed its Worker. Got the copper connected up and chopped a forest in Washington. The Pyramids are due in 3 turns.

    Completed Mathematics and started Currency. But, I would suggest that Currency be put on hold for Sailing. Lighthouses would help our research, plus it would enable river resource sharing.

    Oracle built in 1125BC in some distant land. Confucianism was NOT founded, though. They take Metal Casting, maybe? :dunno:

    A bit of bad luck would keep the new Workers employed ...



    I also whacked that barb Archer that had been wandering around south of Washington.
     

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