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PH14: The Return of the King

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by pholkhero, Oct 4, 2008.

  1. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    You are mistaken, the maintenance per city on another landsmass is ~<.5 gpt when 2 cities are present, and ~1.25 gpt when 3 cities are present. That third city will cost 2.75 gpt, just counting overseas maintenance. Now add palace distance and amount of cities, etc.

    I believe the island is too bad for 3 cities, actually. Lets just settle Plains tile and then take barb city once it has grown pop/culture.
     
  2. Thy_Spellcraft

    Thy_Spellcraft King

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    I agree! Two are enough! If we want to have more cities let's get some from Hatty! :lol:
     
  3. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    swapping to castle? if that's monarchy, i can't agree to that. running all these scientists, i htink ew should keep Rep. however, i would take archery and something else for lit. techwise, i still think we should head for theatres and Taoism for more happiness (running the culture slider, that is).

    OR, tho, i like.
     
  4. Thy_Spellcraft

    Thy_Spellcraft King

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    I'm sorry.. some type'o.. Of caurse I meant caste not HR :crazyeye:

    So take mono as second one.. Hatty would do it that way!

    Going for Philo for a second religion would be ok for me!
     
  5. pigswill

    pigswill fly (one day)

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    Going for philo bulb sounds ok to me. We'll need maths after currency, but maths is worth going for regardless and the AI seem reluctant to trade it nowadays.
     
  6. pholkhero

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    d'oh! that makes much more sense anyway :lol: caste, castle...castle, monarchy ~ i think pigs post after yours confused me.

    okay, i'll have the report up in less than 24 at this point.
     
  7. pholkhero

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    Turn 170/750 (50 BC) [28-Oct-2008 16:45:08]
    okay, finally have a chance to play. Wish i knew there was MORE homework as a teacher and you HAVE to do it :sad:

    I moved one scientist off NYC for more production w/o losing any turns on currency. and i wondered about a barraks at boston with only 9 hammers, but i left it alone.
    the rax at phila, otoh, i stopped. swapped to a c'house and will whip it.

    Press Enter

    Turn 172/750 (20 BC) [28-Oct-2008 16:50:47]
    Started building a road to Egypt for trade and ease of conquering … er, trade. :D

    Turn 173/750 (5 BC) [28-Oct-2008 16:51:38]
    Took OB’s with Qin, and made the trade to Hatty (lit for mono and archery), and “convinced” her to give us meditation as well :groucho:

    I also revolted just to OR. i don't think we can support much more scientists to warrant caste right now.

    Turn 175/750 (25 AD) [28-Oct-2008 16:54:54]
    The settler finished at DC, and I noticed another one was queued up :nono: doesn’t matter since we really wanted that anyway. an axe was done at nyc so I sent them both up to the island for the plains tile.

    Turn 176/750 (40 AD) [28-Oct-2008 16:56:37]
    Currency finished up:


    Started Mathematics. And now that rax done at boston, i started on a missionary to spread it around the lands. And the trade routes from currency bumps us up to 10 gpt @ 20%

    Here’s the closest Egyptian city:


    Ripe for the picking?

    Scratch that. Here’s a better one:


    Turn 180/750 (100 AD) [28-Oct-2008 17:00:10]
    Math is in, and I went towards CS in hopes that we’ll get a scientist to bulb phil. And: QSH dow's Hatty! should be interesting...

    I founded San Francisco in celebration:


    And I think I found qin’s army!


    Turn 184/750 (160 AD) [28-Oct-2008 17:03:59]
    Qin wanted us to join:


    But I told him to stick it! :lol:

    Turn 185/750 (175 AD) [28-Oct-2008 17:05:40]
    I whipped the courthouse at Philly phinally, spread Confusion to Hatty (who converted), and founded Los Angeles (lost the pic ~ the western sheep city near DC).

    I stopped in 250 ad when Francis Bacon was born.


    He CAN bulb Philosophy, so I think we should. CS is due in 6, but we’ll probably have to reduce the tech rate before then. On another note, we’ll have another GS in about 10 turns.

    I was able to build up our military with axes and archers for now so we’re okay, especially with the war in the east going on.

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  8. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    Good set, Pholk!

    Thoughts:
    We should definately bulb Philo - it's a Lib prereq and another religion (and Paci?) is nice.

    Egyptian cities - What's that Hieraconpolis on the last pic? Just settled? Easy picking?
    And I think the hillcity (Ankhenaten?) is ignorable, we should (IF we decide to attack her) roll straight for Capital - we can take that darned hill on our way home.

    Specialists - you mentioned removing a sci to up production - was he rehired?
     
  9. pigswill

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    Philo bulb. CS in 6. Bulb paper or research and save GS for education?

    I'd as soon build up our empire and economy, establish a decent tech lead and then invade. Qin and Hats should slow each other down.
     
  10. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    got it ........

    Ideas?
     
  11. Thy_Spellcraft

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    Just took a short look onto the save.. Good turns pholk!

    After we're going for a second religion we should start making some prophet-point.. the shrines will help quite a lot.. So building Chichen or even Shwedagon might be an idea..

    And a we should build some more military to take over this island-barb city..

    Teching: Depends on whether we want to DoW Hatty soon.. (I'd vote for sooner 'cause only a dead hatty is a good Hatty :lol:) In case we want metalcasting --> machinery --> constructions --> engineering should be the way.. Otherwise we should go for musik first to get the GA!

    And do we want to take Hatty down or do we rather want to make her our vassal?
     
  12. pholkhero

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    thanks all ~ Hiera WAS just settled, so it could be taken on the first assault. The scientist wasn't rehired at NYC ~ i just think it should focus on production as much as possible, even to the extent of hiring an engineer instead of a Sci when a forge gets built there.

    re: paper bulb ~ imhotep convinced me that using a GS on paper is a waste as the beakers are so low for the tech ~ i would save it for Educ.

    also thought about a priest from somewhere, but we would need to fire our scientists somewhere and hire only priests once a GS is born again ~ maybe at DC once the next one pops.

    I still like Drama for for theatres if we want to run some culture to up our happy limits (though for now, we don't have alot of room to play with our sliders i think). otherwise, i like MC > ... > engineering works well for me, esp after we grab CS. Maces anyone? :hammer:
     
  13. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    I dont remember if we have an academy, but if we do, we should be running prophets in another city than the aca one.
     
  14. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Can I be swapped today? I'm without power in my house for a long time and I'm not sure of how long the laptop battery will hold.
     
  15. pholkhero

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    sure ~ let us know if you need a swap or just a skip if the power's out for some time (if u can that is)

    Pindicator UP NOW

    and we should have an academy in dc
     
  16. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    if someone can pick it today, feel free to... i'll tell something otherwise if I can play it
     
  17. pindicator

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    Sorry guys, cannot play tonight. Tomorrow, Sat morning & Sun evening are my free times.

    If we are going to go after Hatty sooner, perhaps we should head for construction first to build a mass of Catapults while teching towards Machinery for maces? Or even HAs?

    Regarding our happiness situation, religion + rep should be a good start. We really need to expand into some happiness resources. But without resources, drama is probably the best we have available.
     
  18. Thy_Spellcraft

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    I don't think that Drama is that necessary at the moment. With two religions we should have enough happyness before we start some fighting.. But going for construction first to mass build cats sounds good!
     
  19. r_rolo1

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    Ok, all things are sort of resolved. I'll play after pindicator
     
  20. pindicator

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    rolo, if you can play tonight go ahead and do so. I wont be back to my computer until tomorrow night
     

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