Pharaoh

[Cabledawg]

Nice work...took a look at the save. Orleans is size 7 and only running 2 priest. Lets run 4 priest...well have a prophet in 17 turns. Theres a cottage 1W of Orleans...plz make that a farm so when Civil Service comes, the corn will be irrigated.

In Elephantine, youve started a barracks...plz cancel that and build a granary, forge, and courthouse in that order. After the deer have been camped, farm every tile you can and put mines on the hills.

In Memphis, put a farm 1SE of the wheat so when Civil Service comes in, itll be irrigated. The capitol is working the stone when it has a spare hill. Can you make memphis work the stone?

We dont have a religion yet, so we cant build the AP palace. Should we declare a religion and build it? The additional hammers from monastaries and temples are huge. If we go Buddhist, we can safely attack Cathy after the french. Going after Gilly isnt so bad either...look at Lagash......with that city covered in watermills...itll be a monster....or cottage it up.

Are we going CS next....if so, we'll have Macemen before anyone else. We have a GG in the capitol and my suggestion is to attach him to our Medic 2 chariot thats in Bombay right now...itll help our Army move quicker.

 

[mice]

The next save posted will be using 3.13.

We all have to go to 3.13 in this case but I'm sure it's not going to be an issue as the patch controls inflation and everyone is going to want that right?

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Back to the game,

Cabledawg's advice is very good. I'm going to enact all of it. The stone will be passed to Memphis' control. Any other tile sharing issues let me know.

Regarding religion I think we need to go to Taoism and build the apostolic.
Metahu could even be "persuaded" to use his engineer on it (think of the glory).

Taoism because we will control the voting. Any other ideas on this welcome.
Edit , are we going to out vote the others if we Buddhist?

A religious difference with Catherine will be interesting.

The governors need to get their hands dirty. Metahu has Bombay. Slobberhotep and Cabledawg can contest the right to lead the army. The first to volunteer as general will receive the post, and therefore Rhiems as prize.

A message regarding the capital is on the way.

 

[slobberinbear]

It would be my honor to exterminate the stinking French, Pharaoh.

 

[mice]

So be it.

Sloberhotep will lead the army when it is decided that we go to war.

(wait for the save to come)

 

[mice]

Any city governor can request the Palace built in their city. A vote of the governors, decides it. There are 4 governors but the usurper needs only 2 allies. 3 governors in total will do it. - that's enough to organize adeath squad to murder the King. ( when the game has more governors, it still only takes 3 in total to take over.) The King doesnt vote because he's the one about to be murdered.


If the vote is a success, the capital changes cities, and the King becomes governor of Thebes. The winning governor then takes over the game, as King , passing war duties to who ever he sees fit, and enacting city orders for the governors, making trades, diplomacy decisions, based on advice, from the time the palace building is begun.

The capital then cannot change location for at least 30 turns after it's completion.

 

[pawelo]

Regarding religion I think we need to go to Taoism and build the apostolic.
Metahu could even be "persuaded" to use his engineer on it (think of the glory).

Taoism because we will control the voting. Any other ideas on this welcome.
Edit , are we going to out vote the others if we Buddhist?

A religious difference with Catherine will be interesting.

As for the religion, I would go along your vision, majesty, making it our priority to land AP and go for Taoism.

After that, it's interesting to spread our beliefs to our neighbors, for more money to come.

I suggest to attack Catherine next, well before she gets the legendary horse riders, our Oracle tells us about.
Our funny beard neighbor will bother us badly with culture, but we can try to handle it reinforcing our two new cities with temples and libraries.

 

[Arlborn]

Could it be?​

Metahu is having a...different dream while sleeping. He is dreaming of a robbed figure, with a woman's body it seems, dancing for him and singing; "Go go go Metahu Thah, he is my hero, he is the best! Wonders wonders and wonders, go go go Metahu, the cultural w..."

"WAKE UP METAHU THAH II, AND STOP HAVING THOSE DISGUSTING DREAMS ABOUT YOUR TRUE GODS OR YOU SHALL BURN FOREVER!"

Metahu Thah II falls from his bed and hastily goes to his knees.
"That is not what you thought! I can expla..."

"Forget Metahu, just forget. You humans are just disgusting."

The robbed figure starts to pace.

"Metahu Thah II, it is time to act."

He then stops and, even though Metahu can't see it, he knows, as always, that the eyes of this strange figure are looking right through him. Right through his soul.

"Long ago, I came to your father, offering him glory and power, if he would but do as I told him to. He did, ah he did. But he was only human after all, and didn't live enough to finish it. But I knew it would happen, I did. All the glory and power I promised to your father one day shall go for you Metahu II. You are the one."

< silence >

"Listen to my words. You shall start to build wonders. Yes, wonders in your city. Maybe you asked yourself why you, first, didn't get a city, but a simple Engineer! And then, when the glory of the Holy city was all but imminent, you are suddenly thrown aside to rule a secondary city! Hah, fear not! This is all part of your Mighty True Gods plans! I need you to build 2 wonders. Those 2 must be built as fast as possible. One will be a ivory statue of a man. Oh, a man so big, with such a majesty, that your enemies SHALL TREMBLE WHEN THEY SEE THE STATUE, THEY SHALL THROW THEIR WEAPONS TO THE GROUND AND RUN!! Oh they shall.
The second wonder shall be such a place of majesty, it shall be made of gold, pure gold. It shall be a religious building not only to one religion, but to ALL! You shall please every single religion with this, oh you shall."

"Yes my Lord, you are kind!"

"Kind?!?" And then he laughs. When a God laughs, you never forget.
"Don't be a fool Metahu! Now, the second part of the plan, which is the hardest. You shall try to convince your king to adopt a official religion. Which one, it matters not. Then, you shall build a big palace of this religion in Heliopolis, and for that the Engineer shall help. This palace shall unites every city, every civilization with the same religion as ours and you shall be mighty. Oh yes.
And then, you shall try to convince the others governors that your city of Heliopolis is so mighty and central in this Empire, that this should be the capitol of the EMPIRE AND YOU METAHU THAH II, YOU SHALL BE THE KING HAHAHAHAHA!"

And he vanishes once again.




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So Heliopolis + bombay? Lamme!

Why there is a worker sleeping in Heliopolis?


Statue of Zeus(or the Swer~ Paya(specially if we don't want the AP, and so we can user free religion civic!)) shall be built in Heliopolis after Courthouse, without using the GE. After that the other wonder will be built too.

If we want AP, the GE wil be used in Heliopolis for it. And then go on with the other wonders.

And, look Heliopolis. It is very central, tell me it is not such a good city for a palace? It will sure give us less maintence than now! And when we get Cathy's empire, we can build a forbidden palace somewhere there!
Right?

 

[pawelo]

@Metahu the wise

Regarding SoZ wonder in your glorious Heliopolis, it would be wise to check if other tribes have already learned the secrets of its production. Gandhi knew how to build it, so it's wise to assume that this knowledge is widely spread.
Therefore, given this great work is of major importance to you, it could be wise to use your engineer on it. Otherwise, we will miss if (almost for sure).

As for the Apostolic Palace, it's wise to consider building this wonder as it gives us the certainty that no other tribe on earth builds it first. It's a security choice - shall another tribe build it and spread its heathen beliefs to our lands, we have no more certitude about our destiny as the tribe can claim itself victorious at any moment.

Even though it may sound weird coming from the religious advisor of the empire, as for me the monument of pure gold enabling the free spread of religion and culture is for me the last choice facing two major achievements above.

My religion (military) advice is : build AP, change to Theocracy, spread our holy world on Russia.

 

[mice]

If we want AP, the GE wil be used in Heliopolis for it. And then go on with the other wonders.

This is an order I would like to enact. Will wait for more voices on the matter.

And, look Heliopolis. It is very central, tell me it is not such a good city for a palace? It will sure give us less maintence than now!

Is that a request for a capital change vote??

 

[Arlborn]

Ye - I figured out the same. But it depends if people want to use a official religion or not. If not, the golden palace is great for free religion early on!

We can also decide to change to a religion just to build the AP, and then use free religion.

Anyway, if the governors decide to build the AP, it hopefully shall be built in Heliopolis with the GE. And then SoZ and then the golden little palace - if nobody got it yet.

 

[r_rolo1]

I agree that the capitol would be good in Heliopolis ( good place to use the Beauro bonus and chunk wonders/troops ) ( P.S. Let's killl the king .... 3 votes ( unless the city governor doesn't count ) ).
Regarding wonders: like I said previously, I'm not very fond on using a GE in a wonder when Ind ( big, big waste ), but maybe it may be wise doing that about the AP ( i'm playing my MLG 3 now, so can't check if anyone is building it ).... My shot would be bulbing the GE ( assumming Machinery as obtained tech ) and tech towards CS, while building the AP the old fashioned way....

Will return shortly to give my MM orders about Delhi and to give more ( unwanted ) advice.....

 

[Arlborn]

Is that a request for a capital change vote??

Just fooling around, who knows...

 

[Arlborn]

I agree that the capitol would be good in Heliopolis ( good place to use the Beauro bonus and chunk wonders/troops ) ( P.S. Let's killl the king .... 3 votes ( unless the city governor doesn't count ) ).
Regarding wonders: like I said previously, I'm not very fond on using a GE in a wonder when Ind ( big, big waste ), but maybe it may be wise doing that about the AP ( i'm playing my MLG 3 now, so can't check if anyone is building it ).... My shot would be bulbing the GE ( assumming Machinery as obtained tech ) and tech towards CS, while building the AP the old fashioned way....

Will return shortly to give my MM orders about Delhi and to give more ( unwanted ) advice.....

Nah, I wouldn't want to risk AP in the hands of an AI. the stop war resolutions ***.


Ps:

<< Patched to 3.13.

 

[slobberinbear]

patched and ready for save.

 

[mice]

Nah, I wouldn't want to risk AP in the hands of an AI. the stop war resolutions ***.

For this reason I would encourage the governors to vote for AP as soon as possible.

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The Ramicess dynasty has been extinguished. The new king is Badr al-Jamali , the spawn of the evil uncle who killed RamiccessIX

Badr al-Jamali's report on the state of medieval Egypt.

Governor Slobahotep controls Valley of Kings and Paris

Governor Cabldawg controls Memphis, Orleans and Elephantine.

Governor Metahu controls Heliopolis and Bombay

Governor Wen Amon controls Delhi.

Slobahotep will lead the army to Rhiems when or if the governors reach agreement on the attack.

Advisors Hazmanibag and Pawelo bask in glory and can expect rich reward when Sumeria , Persia or Russia come into our control.


King Badr al Jamali needs ;

Votes on the Apostolic, and it's religion.
A decision on whether to attack Rhiems.


Memphis has changed production from Chichen to Statue of Zeus, as I believe Chichen was not ordered by Cabledawg.

Metahu has requested three wonders. If the governors agree to Apostoloic, then it will be built there.

Whoever orders a settler can claim the elephant site.

 

[r_rolo1]

About MM of Delhi ( rename it to Wen Amon, please ) :

Stop working the lake and start working the mine. After that focus on growth until cap and spam cottages ( I see a future wall street here ).

Builds: Temples ( both and if necessary ), Market , Courthouse

About mice questions:

AP : yes, taoist and hand built (I still think that bulbing machinery is better )

Rheims: yes and ASAP

 

[pawelo]

AP : yes, taoist and hand built (I still think that bulbing machinery is better )

Rheims: yes and ASAP

I don't know what to bulb with Machinery, as it is due in 1 turn
So build AP as for me, though advisor's vote wasn't requested

Rheims is quite urgent too, as it squeezes as hell our two coastal cities.

 

[mice]

AP : yes, taoist and hand built (I still think that bulbing machinery is better )

Rheims: yes and ASAP

We have machinery. Maces are a few turns away.

I re -thought the religion, should be Confucian. We will need to put Confucianism in Heliopolis to build it so maybe a switch to Org religion and pop a missionary out of Paris.

 

[Arlborn]

I still don't see a problem in building AP with GE.

Other city is building SoZ already then?

 

[mice]

I still don't see a problem in building AP with GE.

Other city is building SoZ already then?

Yes but your city can build Swedagon. After all, Heliopolis has the gold which speeds it up. I agree about the GE for AP. We can build it swiftly and then get to Free religion quickly.

Then we are set up to dictate the wars on this landmass, with SoZ to hurt our enemies.