Pick the Civ5 Leaders (There's a Catch)

[kivanc]

as civilization wants to remain popular with its own characteristics, i'm sure it won't damage the balance it has on ways of politics, religions and nationalities. civ saga tries to represent most of the world with a rather objective view on history.

it seems some friends just comment about leaders according to their own political views and/or hatreds, but none of you should expect civ saga to spread your own political views. it is published all over the world.

for example; you like them or not, always some of the historical socialist leaders will be in the game.

i mean, alkthough most fans of this game are euro/american christians, still different cultures of the world has a great part in the game and also they are not made weak leaders, are they?
is gandhi a weak leader?
mao was very strong in civ4 vanilla as well. etc.

 

[kroket]

But Tokugawa? Why on Earth you don't want him back?

Just a matter of taste... Didn't like the way he looked at me!
Besides given the swedish article there are now like 9 leaders known. Mao and Toku won't be back. I read somewhere else that Stalin will though. Too bad very much prefer Catherine. If they stick to the 1 leader/civ for vanilla i think we will be lacking in female leaders. Although this is realistic it's still too bad. Just hope they won't throw in Cleopatra/Hatshepshut really there have been dozens of great pharaohs and they pick women just because of famousness and for having more female leaders. Surely there are better choices like catherine. I suppose we can virtually fill in Isabella, Elizabeth and Hatshepshut now.

Jeanne d'Arc is the French leader in Civ3.

This is her in the Modern Era:

Haha!! She is actually bald... Thought they only shaved of her hair after she was in prison. Really makes me wonder why anyone would pick joan of arc over napoleon/louis xiv etc...

 

[kivanc]

Just a matter of taste... Didn't like the way he looked at me!

Hmm with this approach, I can say I don't want Surya back. I don't like the way he looks at me. I just get afraid that he will bite me

 

[kroket]

Hmm with this approach, I can say I don't want Surya back. I don't like the way he looks at me. I just get afraid that he will bite me

Come to think of it i second that!! But then again i can't imagine the Khmer being in Vanilla!!

 

[Leise]

Ethiopia: Haile Selassie
Vikings: Canute the great, Leif Ericson, Harald Fairhair or his son Eirik Bloodaxe
Egypt: Ramses II, Cheops
Porrtugal: Afonso Henriques

 

[civ_king]

Canada
Trudeau

China
Yellow Emperor
Confucius

Cuba
Fidel Castro

Sweden
Unknown, but they were powerful

France
Marquis de Lafayette

India
Nehru

Japan
Meiji

Mexico
Pancho Villa
Zapata

Spain
Abd ar-Rahman I

UK
Cromwell?
Lord Baden-Powell

US
Thomas Jefferson
Theodore Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson

 

[Arakhor]

Huh? Robert Baden-Powell? What the hell would he be doing as a world leader? Even the regicidal republican Cromwell should be an English leader long before Baden-Powell!

 

[Leise]

Canada
Trudeau

China
Yellow Emperor
Confucius

Cuba
Fidel Castro

Sweden
Unknown, but they were powerful

France
Marquis de Lafayette

India
Nehru

Japan
Meiji

Mexico
Pancho Villa
Zapata

Spain
Abd ar-Rahman I

UK
Cromwell?
Lord Baden-Powell

US
Thomas Jefferson
Theodore Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson

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Sweden
Charles XII http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_XII
Gustavus Adolphus http://en.wikipedia/wiki/Gustavus_Adolphus_of_Sweden

UK
Did you mean Oliver Cromwell? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell

 

[Geek113377]

Pope Julius II (rome)-militaristic and religious
Adolph Hitler (germany)-militaristic
Nelson Mandela (south africa)-political
Cleopatra (egypt)-political and militaristic(?) and religious
Odysseus (greece)-political and militaristic and religious
George W Bush (america)-political and militaristic

 

[kivanc]

else than great economist or military leaders, i also respect some other leaders who have tried to reform and modernise a falling empire. the success of leaders like Suleiman I is very obvious while the latter is not famous much.

so mahmud II of ottomans is such an example. he made many reforms. 1 of the reforms that could be interesting for you; he finally disbanded the janissary troops which have been decaying and revolting frequently.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_II

 

[Michigamer]

Japan: Oda Nobunaga
China: Taizong
Mongolia: Tamerlane
India: Chandragupta II of Gupta (Akbar would be really good too, but I prefer a non-Muslim for India)
Arabs: Caliph 'Umar
Persia: Khosrau Anohshirvan (since the Achaemenids are all taken), or possibly Shah Abbas
Sumeria: Gudea of Lagash
Turks: Ataturk (since the best Ottoman sultans are all taken)
Egyptians: Thutmose III
Greeks: Peisistratus of Athens, or possibly Periander of Corinth
Romans: Marcus Aurelius
French: (St.) Louis IX, or possibly Henri of Navarre
Germans: Adolf H*^@%$
Russians: Ivan the Great
Spanish: Sancho III of Navarre
English: Lord Palmerston (NOT PITT THE ELDER!!)
Americans: Jefferson
Aztecs: Ahuitzotl
Inca: Pachacuti

a fun little exercise. I think my favorites are Pachacuti Inca and Taizong for China.

 

[Schubes]

England/Scotland:
Charles II, "The Merry Monarch", restored after the failed Commonwealth under Lords-Protector Cromwell and Son. A Phi/Cre leader, Charles reopened the theatres, and supported scientific endeavour. He also sought toleration of Catholics and Protestant dissenters (such as Baptists and Quakers), although parliament were less than co-operative on this front.

Germanic Leaders:
Barbarossa (Holy Roman Emperor)
Franz Josef or Metternich (both modern Austro-Hungarian leaders)
Henry the Lion (Duke of Saxony) or Henry the Fowler (Duke of Saxony & King of Germany)
Thus far, German leaderheads have included Frankish, Prussian and Austrian leaders. Saxons are the missing link. Including a Saxon and reintroducing Austria, whilst keeping Frankish and Prussian leaders would cover the four major German power centres since the conquest of Rome. (Renaming the Holy Roman and German Empires to Frankish and Prussian Empires to facilitate the entries of Austria and Saxony would remove the anomaly of Germany and the Holy Roman Empire appearing as rivals within the same game.)
Henry the Fowler is argued, by some, to be the first Holy Roman Emperor, although he was not crowned as such. Henry the Lion was a powerful prince in during Barbarossa's reign. He held a vast contiguous duchy including Bavaria and Saxony (which encompasses multiple modern-day Länder). He was ultimately deposed for refusing to assist Barbarossa's campaign in Italy, for which he earned the resentment of other German princes after the Empire's humiliating defeat.

Russia:
Yeltzin: Whilst I think Putin or Gorbechev shaped modern Russia to a greater extent, a dancing Boris Yeltzin leaderhead would be much more entertaining. Defeating Yeltzin would so much more challenging than Putin. I see that jolly man dance and I just can't bring myself to push the button. How can I defeat my rivals when they make me smile?

Mongolia:
The Mongolian Empire overran so much of Eurasia, but for much of its history was made up of various Khanates, of which many were more powerful in their own right than most of the rivals they would encounter in this game. To see Mongolia represented by two or three separate civilisations would appear appropriate. The most appropriate addition, in my opinion, would be the "Timurid Empire", led by Timur the Lame (Tamerlane).

 

[Art Grin]

Russia:
Yeltzin: Whilst I think Putin or Gorbechev shaped modern Russia to a greater extent, a dancing Boris Yeltzin leaderhead would be much more entertaining. Defeating Yeltzin would so much more challenging than Putin. I see that jolly man dance and I just can't bring myself to push the button. How can I defeat my rivals when they make me smile?

I would be careful about Gorbachov or Yeltzin. Including them could result an attack on the Firaxis HQ by a mob of angry Russians.

 

[TheDervish]

Persia: Shapur I, Nader Shah, and Mohammad Mosaddegh
USA: Theodore Roosevelt
Polynesians: Kamehameha I
Ethiopia: Haile Selassie I

 

[Schubes]

I would be careful about Gorbachov or Yeltzin. Including them could result an attack on the Firaxis HQ by a mob of angry Russians.

I'm surprised that hasn't already happened, after the inclusion of two Tsarist leaders in Civ IV.

 

[The Hungry Hun]

Thomas Jefferson- USA
Athelstan, Edward I, III- England
Emperor Wu Han or Wei (both are cool)- China
Meiji- Nippon
Francisco Franco- Spain

 

[Arakhor]

Aethelstan would be a good leader for an English civilisation. Get a pre-Norman non-Danish ruler in, I say!

 

[oChuckles]

France - Napoleon III
He's indirectly sort of responsible for the unification of both Germany and Italy. First president, last monarch of France. Had a cool quote to Bismark:
"I will forgive, history will forgive you, but my people will never forgive your people."

 

[__jack__]

France:
Henry IV
Francois I

 

[jakezephyr]

Holland- Willem von Oranje