Pick Your Poison: N20

[Jarrema]

ahh
I meant governor, of course

 

[bonefang]

what happened to the 1st night lynch ??
did i miss the updates or something ?

 

[Kennigit]

It says it'll end in like a week. But it also wasn't end of 48 hours yet (and still isn't; theres like 1 hour from timestamp of this post for 48 hours, if ninja wants to cut off vote tally or something)

 

[choxorn]

You know, Governor seems like a more useful role to have as mafia than to have as townie.

 

[classical_hero]

Here is the list of roles and my take on the potential for scumminess.

Cop (Whisky)
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will get a result of town or mafia.

This can be useful for the mafia to deny the town from having, generally goes after the few picks, so we know someone early has it. Last game of this type we had the mafia take so we can't assume it is not in the hands of town, like it normally is.

Doctor (Club Soda)
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will prevent any and all kill attempts on that player. You may NOT target yourself.

This one is a major benefit for the town, but again the mafia would love to deny this from the town, but the chance of the first two roles going to scum are highly unlikely.

Bulletproof (Vodka)
You are bulletproof. You are immune to night kills.

This is definitely a must have for a townie and more than like the first one picked. It is unlikely that the scum will pick this one, but again denial of benefit for town is good, but they will have to deny some obvious choices.

Bodyguard (Scotch)
Each night you may target a player. If successful, any and all kill attempts will be redirected to you.
NOTE: If a Bodyguard protects a Doctor and the Doctor protects the Bodyguard, the Bodyguard will be safe from attacks unless the Doctor is attacked, in which case it will die.

I doubt anyone would want this role, since it means they die instead.

Roleblocker (Rum)
Each night you may target a player. If successful, that target will not be able to use any night abilities.

This is very useful for the scum t take, since it can mean a disruption of the town. But then they might not take it so that a townie has it and looks scum.

Tracker (Irish Coffee)
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will see all players that player targeted that night.

This is useful for the mafia also, since it means they can find active townies and then go after them. But they might have ignored this to deny the bes town roles from the town.

Jailkeeper (Lemonade)
Each night you may target a player. If successful, that target will not be able to use any night abilities.
NOTE: The roleblocker's roleblock will be given priority over the Jailkeeper's. So that means that if a Roleblocker and a Jailkeeper both target each other then the Roleblocker will not be protected by the Jailkeeper's protection, and the Jailkeeper will be notified that it has been blocked.

This is similar to roleblocker, but only weaker.

One-Shot Governor (Champagne)
Once during the game, during the day, you may PM me to stop a lynch.

This is a potential game saver if the person who has this is town.

Vengeful Lynchee (Cocktail)
If you are lynched you may, at any time during the next two phases (i.e. the next night and day), post "Kill: X" (where X was on the wagon that lynched you). That person will then die at the beginning of the next phase.

If one of the scum doe not have this as their role, then shame on them, but then again if they get scanned by the following role

Rolecop (1984 Chardonnay)
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will see what role they have but not their alignment.

This is a good role for either side, since it allows him to know who has got what roles and who are the power roles.

Bus Driver (Ale)
Switch two players for the night (If X and Y are switched, and X is targeted by mafia, Y dies instead. Works for any ability, not just kills)

IN the hands of a mafia, this is a very dangerous role, in the hands of the town it could cause confusion. I''d mark this role down a likely for a scum to have.

Doublevoter (XXXX Larger)
Your vote counts as two in the lynch.

Not very useful early on, but later on it can control the lynch, so this is mightily useful for the mafia, but could have not been taken.

Tiebreaker (XXX Larger)
Your vote can break ties in the lynch.

Unlikely to be taken. But more useful in the towns hand.

 

[dragonprobably]

This is a potential game saver if the person who has this is town.

Yes, but the person who has it says he's going to use it on himself, this is pretty scummy behavior because he can make the mafia last longer. Vote: Jarrema.

 

[choxorn]

I think Jailkeeper is Protect+Roleblock, and Ninjacow forgot about the Protect part.

 

[choxorn]

Yes, but the person who has it says he's going to use it on himself, this is pretty scummy behavior because he can make the mafia last longer. Vote: Jarrema.

Using his power to prevent his own lynch is the logical choice regardless of his alignment, as either way, his own death will hurt his chances of winning.

 

[classical_hero]

I think Jailkeeper is Protect+Roleblock, and Ninjacow forgot about the Protect part.

Well if that is correct then it is a powerful role, but it is not mentioned like that.

 

[dragonprobably]

Using his power to prevent his own lynch is the logical choice regardless of his alignment, as either way, his own death will hurt his chances of winning.

It's better to sacrifice youself for the town than be selfish.

 

[classical_hero]

If he is the governor, then he might as well use it himself, since it gets wasted if he dies.

 

[dcmort93]

It's better to sacrifice youself for the town than be selfish.

If only the world worked like that...

 

[choxorn]

It's better to sacrifice youself for the town than be selfish.

If he's town, the only help lynching him will do for us is to tell us that he's town. He already knows that, he doesn't want to waste his power, and every dead townie makes it that much easier for the mafia to win. So yes, saving himself is logical and sacrificing himself, in this instance, doesn't do much good.

 

[Jarrema]

Yes, but the person who has it says he's going to use it on himself, this is pretty scummy behavior because he can make the mafia last longer. Vote: Jarrema.

Using his power to prevent his own lynch is the logical choice regardless of his alignment, as either way, his own death will hurt his chances of winning.

It's better to sacrifice youself for the town than be selfish.

If he is the governor, then he might as well use it himself, since it gets wasted if he dies.

If he's town, the only help lynching him will do for us is to tell us that he's town. He already knows that, he doesn't want to waste his power, and every dead townie makes it that much easier for the mafia to win. So yes, saving himself is logical and sacrificing himself, in this instance, doesn't do much good.

Of course I agree with Choxorn in this discussion.

Why I have this role? I asked for this role because I was fairly low in a picking order. I wanted to have a role, so I was thinking about governor or double-voter (I was thinkung that this roles may be still available), or bodyguard (in order to save better role; but I thought someone already taken it); and I decided to try to get governor. I succeeded.

I WILL use this power to save myself. Decide if you want to vote for me with this info. It is 'townish' to announce that I want to do it IMO.
Of course, if I was mafia, I would do the same thing to save myself

 

[NinjaCow64]

I think Jailkeeper is Protect+Roleblock, and Ninjacow forgot about the Protect part.

:facepalm: Choxorn is correct, I cannot believe I made that mistake. Silly me. Oh, and if you are curious as to why I am not updating, it is because I am posting from an handheld.

 

[Zack]

Vigilante kill Jarrema tonight.

 

[Turquoiside]

If only the world worked like that...

This.

Ya know, this whole thing would be so much easier if everyone just told me what they picked. So far only one person has. If someone else picked OSG, then you obviously should say so. As it stands, Visorslash is a much better lynch choice than Jarrema (switching to Jarrema out of self-perservation when he wasn't even leading the lynch is the scummiest unvote possible). And as Jarrema, choxorn, and essentially dcmort said, obviously if Jarrema is the OSG he's going to save himself.

 

[Zack]

Unvote, Vote: Visorslash

 

[SouthernKing]

Vote: SouthernKing

 

[SamSniped]

Wait, what?