Pinochet Common Misconceptions
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Broken_Erika
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Far left communists and far right nationalists are equally destructive, just in different ways.
I don't know about you lot, but those of us who actually live in the countries which RomanKingBart were ‘saving’ can see that to this day people in Chile are protesting against the pension system imposed by Augusto Pinochet's salvation government.
I don't know, Pinochet's ‘redistribution’ of the means of production must have started with first seizing them.
Nnnno.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
It occurs to me that, if you were Jewish, you might have a slightly more nuanced take on that.
Bamspeedy
CheeseBob
'Huge' latino vote for Trump? Most people would define 'huge' as over 50%.
Comparing 2012 to 2016, Trump did better than Romney (barely, 28% vs 27%). Hillary got 66% to Obama's 71%. Trump did better with Latinos aged 30-64 than he did with older and younger latinos (but all age groups voted for Hillary).
Edit: Unless he's talking absolute numbers "huge gain in voters", but there was 4 million new latinos eligible to vote in 2016 than in 2012 (population growth), so both sides 'gained' voters.
Comparing 2012 to 2016, Trump did better than Romney (barely, 28% vs 27%). Hillary got 66% to Obama's 71%. Trump did better with Latinos aged 30-64 than he did with older and younger latinos (but all age groups voted for Hillary).
Edit: Unless he's talking absolute numbers "huge gain in voters", but there was 4 million new latinos eligible to vote in 2016 than in 2012 (population growth), so both sides 'gained' voters.
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Broken_Erika
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Nick Carpathia
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There is zero chance RomanKing actually passed PT in the chilean army.
Timsup2nothin
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I thought he claimed to have been sent off to college in Canada. When did he claim he was in the Chilean army?
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You don't need the westerman to tell you which way the wind is blowing. Though the weatherman bombed some stuff in NY so as to retaliate for Allende being killed by uncle Sam or something like that. /r16impersonation @r16
r16 dislikes Pinochet while Allende apparently went too far in the name of Left without balancing stuff for people on the Right . Probably because r16 is yet to grasp Latin America had it worse , even than Turkey when it came to tasting the benefits of Capitalism .
Chile being a copper republic is common knowledge, and trade embargoes were rather par for the course during Cold War afaik.Why, did you already know about Chilean reliance on copper exports, or about the US embargo of machine parts and subsequent break-down of public transport?
But I admit I didn't know the estimated number of victims of Pinochet's regime.
3,000 over about 2 decades in a country of nearly 18 million sounds surprisingly low, tbh. Would have guessed at least five digits myself.
I mean, estimates for Cuba (a country of ~11 million) over about 3 decades range between 35,000 and 141,000...
This doesn't seem to square too well with the above-quoted estimate?
Although the 3,000 figure obviously does not account for people tortured or forced into exile...
@OP Merely being lesser of two evils does not make someone worthy of veneration nor should it serve as a blanket indulgence for committed crimes.
Likewise, exposing hypocrisy of certain communist fanboys doesn't make your apparent fanboyism of a torturer and embezzler any more palatable.
Thorgalaeg
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Link?
Thorgalaeg
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I was expecting something from some minimally respectable sources. UN, Human Rights Watch or something like that. You first link leads to an article written by a rabid anti-communist american, member of the Cato institute, an ultraliberal think tank. With numbers extracted of places like museum of the communism, the black book of the communism and so on... It is like asking Allende widow about Pinochet crimes.
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