Porn Site Filters for the UK

[Mise]

Seriously? That's what you've chosen to come back to me with?

Fine, "young woman" then. FYI, I am no more comfortable watching a young woman being raped than watching a young girl being raped.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Well yes. Aren't women young at 23? I rather think they still are.

Yeah women are young at 23. Girls however, are quite old by then...

 

[Formaldehyde]

You do realize that this borders on down-right offensive. But is actually just ignorance. I feel duty bound to point out you know nothing about me.

Uh oh. Another "dogpile". Lord Baal seems to do that fairly frequently as he discusses others instead of the topic.

I have no choice but to take her story at face value. If she's lying and I wrongly believe her, then the worst that happens is that I don't get to watch Deep Throat my entire life. But if she's telling the truth and I wrongly think she's lying, then I'm watching and masturbating to a video of a young girl being gang raped repeatedly. That is not a risk I am willing to take, all for the sake of a good wank...

That certainly seems to be an odd perception of pornography, especially Deep Throat which received international acclaim and launched her very career as a top porn starlet.

So I take it you don't actually watch porn in fear of becoming excited by someone who might be "gang raped".

 

[warpus]

To be fair though, I doubt Borachio can watch porn all day. He probably can only watch in spurts.

This sounds like a challenge to me. Borachio?

 

[Borachio]

Hmm. But Linda Lovelace did later maintain that she'd been coerced, or was it drugged, into it, iirc, which I'm sure I don't.

 

[Kyriakos]

I am pretty sure (most) sane people do not like watching rape-fantasy (let alone actual rape) porn. It still is not for the government to try to regulate what porn they watch, unless it is clearly illegal (eg child pornography).

Not sure who thought Cameron as the notable figure to present this anti-porn crusade. They might as well have chosen that mayor of London person (I know Cameron is the PM, merely mocking the idea he is in a position to seriously promote ethics)

 

[Formaldehyde]

Hmm. But Linda Lovelace did later maintain that she'd been coerced, or was it drugged, into it, iirc, which I'm sure I don't.

So were her later statements factual? Or were her two books she wrote glamorizing the porn industry to make even more money from her celebrity status?

I am pretty sure (most) sane people do not like watching rape-fantasy (let alone actual rape) porn. It still is not for the government to try to regulate what porn they watch, unless it is clearly illegal (eg child pornography).

So what does that say about the number of women who share that very fantasy? Are you claiming they are not "sane"?

Rape Ranked as Third Most Popular Sexual Fantasy for Women

This isn’t to say that fantasizing about sex is wrong. In fact, a study in the Journal of Sex Research analyzed 20 studies on sexual fantasies in the last 30 years and estimated that 31-57 percent of women have so-called rape fantasies (that is a whole other story for another day), but sexual fantasies, whatever they may be, are built on feeling safe and in control (or at least they should be) – none of which are true when a woman is actually raped.

How much "actual rape" porn do you think there is? Do you think Hollywood occasionally makes movies that are "actual violence"?

 

[Borachio]

So were her later statements factual? Or were her two books she wrote glamorizing the porn industry to make even more money from her celebrity status?

Dunno. It's really not possible to tell, is it?

Yeah. You should read that article, Formaldehyde.

This depiction of rape is very dangerous. It paints a picture of rape as an enjoyable experience that women crave even if they protest or say no. This type of message creates a huge miscommunication between the sexes in the bedroom. Men may end up thinking that a woman’s doesn’t mean it when she says “no” to sex and that by ignoring her requests he is really appealing to a sexual fantasy of hers, but without consent what he is really doing is raping her.

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/rape-ra...r-sexual-fantasy-for-women.html#ixzz2a4LiC1YX

Fantasy is FANTASY.

 

[Borachio]

Apparently, this advert has just been banned from British TV.


Link to video.

Er...

I have to ask why.

But still, I suppose, using sex to sell isn't such a hot idea anyway. Or is it? I dunno.

I get the impression that most of CFC are perfectly fine with objectifying both men and women.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/renault-va-va-voom-ad-banned-for-objectifying-women

this kind of stupid ad sets car advertising back 40 years, back to when you just laid a chick in a bikini on the hood of your car, snapped a shot, and called it advertising.
There’s not a lick of smart humor, not a lick of intelligence to be found in the spot.
Va Va Voom button?
England’s Advertising Standards Authority concluded the ad objectified the dancers and banned it for being likely to cause serious or widespread offence.

 

[Kyriakos]

^One does not simply

show pretty women on british tv

 

[bhsup]

And the world mocks the USA for going into a tizzy over a wardrobe malfunction...

 

[Lord Baal]

Apparently, this advert has just been banned from British TV.


Link to video.

Er...

I have to ask why.

But still, I suppose, using sex to sell isn't such a hot idea anyway. Or is it? I dunno.

I get the impression that most of CFC are perfectly fine with objectifying both men and women.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/renault-va-va-voom-ad-banned-for-objectifying-women

"Being likely to cause a serious or widespread offence?" WTH? Were people tripping over their boners on their way to steal Renaults?

 

[Grisu]

And the world mocks the USA for going into a tizzy over a wardrobe malfunction...

as we say in german: "Der Apfel fällt nicht weit vom Stamm", which basically means "Like father, like son."

 

[bhsup]

Hehe "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree"

 

[Grisu]

Hehe "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree"

oh, that saying exists like that in english, too?

 

[Terxpahseyton]

UK is at times even more unbelievable in their laws / law enforcement than the US.
I blame their lack of a constitution.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Yeah. You should read that article, Formaldehyde.

I did read the article. That argument is much like the one that those who try to ban FPS video games and violent Hollywood movies make. Indeed, a handful can't discern this basic fact:

Fantasy is FANTASY.

As a result those few people might possibly try to act out those fantasies in real life. And some others are paranoid and fearful as a result so they do all they can to ban them.

Whatever you do, I strongly suggest you don't read any Marquis de Sade. It might just turn you into a book burner. But for the rest of us, it hasn't turned us into people who kill for sexual pleasure since we can discern the difference between right and wrong.

 

[Borachio]

Well, well done for you for being able to tell right from wrong.

I've never felt, with confidence, that I've had that facility with much degree of reliability.

Reality just keeps poking its ugly head in at me, to prove me wrong, I guess.

As for the Marquis de Sade, 120 days of Sodom didn't strike me as likely to be entertainment. So I've not read it nor seen the film.

I did see some pornography when I was a dock worker that gave me unsettled sleep for a few days (very poor quality grainy images of things I'll leave to your imaginations).

Similar effect to watching Shoah. I suppose I'm just an old softy?

Ah, those dockers! Some of them really did pride themselves on being degenerate in outlandish ways.

 

[Angst]

Say you ban lolicon.

Where's the pedophile to get his fix?

This is a serious question and the very reason I support that kind of stuff. That it exists does not convince people that kids have a sexuality in the adult shape that is depicted in that kinda stuff. The gateway drug of pornography, as having been outlined by some very unrespectable psychologists, has been debunked by other psychologists; everything is/can-be a gateway drug to something worse - bigmacs to obesity, pot to crack - and most people can handle the lower ends of the gateways; and for those damaged to begin with, what seems really iffy to us will merely keep them content. I have no issue with someone battering to a drawing of a nude six year old as long as it keeps him away from my children. A different but similar thing applies to rape porn.

But I'll also add... Rape is not about sex or horniness. People will not rape more due to rape porn being present. People will rape more due to having issues of feeling in a control, usually due to their brains being pasta'd up, their parents being cruel or controlling, their childhood being abusive. Arbitrary moral preachings and bans of "damaging" porn outright misses its target, because it will not give people their "fix" and is only a meaningless punishment of people with a problem. Rather, investments have to be done into preventing the problem from happening to begin with. Banning porn? Nah, that won't fix a goddamn thing.

 

[Akka]

But fantasy is what it is, no?

And if you need a video to stimulate your fantasy, how much does that say about your imaginative powers?

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We are talking about PORN and you're using this trite idiotic argument ?
Hello, what is the ENTIRE POINT of porn ?
Please ?

I am pretty sure (most) sane people do not like watching rape-fantasy (let alone actual rape) porn.

Fun thing is, nobody will state openly they like rape fantasy, because of social stigma (much like prostitution).

But then, when there is studies about fantasies made in a more anonymous environment, it happens that rape fantasies are about the most common of all sex fantasies (something like top 3 or 5).

Fun things fact, hu ?