MjM
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All it takes is one good bite, not to mention she can easily gain the speed to take the stupid cat out.
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Pound for pound who is the fiercer beast?
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All it takes is one good bite, not to mention she can easily gain the speed to take the stupid cat out.
Verbose
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A cat that size has more speed over a short course than any dog. Cats being cats, it will use it go high somewhere where the dog can't go.
Should the dog catch up otoh, and should the dog actually get into a position where it's able to go for the cat's neck, then the cat is probably a gonner, never mind the carve-up the dog might receive in the process of getting into the position.
So the cat dies, while otoh the dog won't know what hit it when the cat simultaneously disembowels it with it hind legs. Iirc the French duelling term for the situation is that it will probably end as a "double widow".
Zardnaar
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Cat I think pound for pund with maybe 1 or two dog breeds that could even come close.
Ofuh
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There's seriously some blinded "dog people" in here..
Cats can use their whole body as a weapon.. Bites form teeth, scratches from front paws, and their rear paws to gut the enemy's stomach while clamping it down with it's teeth and front claws.
Should the cat be caught off guard and actually put in a position where the dog has the upper hand, the cat can likely just outmaneuver the dog easily. Besides as others have already pointed out, dogs are easily starteld and run (scratch to nose etc)
A cat could also just easily jump on top of the dog's back and have a field day while the dog can't see what's going on nor do anything about it. Dogs have zero agility, their legs are stiff as hell as are their torsos. A cat can bend in all directions like rubber, and use each of it's legs individually. Dogs have almost no use for their legs other than running.
Cats can use their whole body as a weapon.. Bites form teeth, scratches from front paws, and their rear paws to gut the enemy's stomach while clamping it down with it's teeth and front claws.
Should the cat be caught off guard and actually put in a position where the dog has the upper hand, the cat can likely just outmaneuver the dog easily. Besides as others have already pointed out, dogs are easily starteld and run (scratch to nose etc)
A cat could also just easily jump on top of the dog's back and have a field day while the dog can't see what's going on nor do anything about it. Dogs have zero agility, their legs are stiff as hell as are their torsos. A cat can bend in all directions like rubber, and use each of it's legs individually. Dogs have almost no use for their legs other than running.
Cats' claws are nasty, and scratches hurt, but claws aren't deadly weapons. If a dog is angry enough not to run away then it's a question of who has the best jaws.
A determined dog won't run away after a scratch or two. A cat can hardly disembowel a dog that actually has some fur. A cat's jaws are tiny; a cat would be hard-pressed to clamp its jaws on the dog's neck, let alone squeeze enough to kill.
So a very angry cat against a very angry dog would lose, but the dog would be scratched.
If they just met and weren't set apon each other then the dog wouldn't bother risking the scratches for the worthless lump of flesh that is a cat.
A larger member of the cat family, like a jaguar, is designed to kill larger animals, and could kill a dog of the same size.
A determined dog won't run away after a scratch or two. A cat can hardly disembowel a dog that actually has some fur. A cat's jaws are tiny; a cat would be hard-pressed to clamp its jaws on the dog's neck, let alone squeeze enough to kill.
So a very angry cat against a very angry dog would lose, but the dog would be scratched.
If they just met and weren't set apon each other then the dog wouldn't bother risking the scratches for the worthless lump of flesh that is a cat.
A larger member of the cat family, like a jaguar, is designed to kill larger animals, and could kill a dog of the same size.
Chukchi Husky
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Well, I just addressed much of this. But dogs do not have zero agility. You've clearly never watched a dog squirming on the floor. They're not as agile as cats, but they can still squeeze through tiny spaces and wriggle as though their spine was rubber, not bone.
Ofuh
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This goes for common housecats. Full sized cats don't have little "fishhook" claws. Well I don't know personally as I've never been scratched by a full grown lion, but I can imagine they are not the same as a normal housecat.
we're assuming both animals are the same size, whether it be the dog that is smaller or the cat that is bigger. Of course a little kitten is not going to tear open a full sized rottweiler with a little swat, but make teh cat bigger- the claws also get bigger. Or make the dog smaller, the cat can just wrestle the dog to the ground while gutting it or choking it, more than likely both at the same time.
Chukchi Husky
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Siberian Huskies are bad for that. Any tiny gap in a garden and they will try to escape through it, and they can also jump over 6 foot fences.
Ofuh
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Well yeah, I've owned dogs too and have had to run after them when they escaped through the fence you could of sworn had been fixed.
I didn't mean dogs really have no agility at all, but compared to a cat their agility is very very poor. It will require the dog some work and a lot of twisting and pushing to go through very small spaces. A cat will just go and crawl/slide through with ease.
Catharsis
catch u on the flip scythe
I voted cat out of partisanship, but the question itself is flawed.
A cat's a cat, and that's all it will ever be. All cats of the same species look and behave similarly (with a few anomalies, like the Manx cat and the hairless varieties). You don't get the variation that you do in dogs. A dog can be a chihuahua, or a golden retriever, or an Alsatian, even though they are all the same species.
Setting 'dog vs. cat' is too vague, and that's why we have all this argument. What sort of dog are we using here?
A cat's a cat, and that's all it will ever be. All cats of the same species look and behave similarly (with a few anomalies, like the Manx cat and the hairless varieties). You don't get the variation that you do in dogs. A dog can be a chihuahua, or a golden retriever, or an Alsatian, even though they are all the same species.
Setting 'dog vs. cat' is too vague, and that's why we have all this argument. What sort of dog are we using here?
Catharsis
catch u on the flip scythe
We're not talking about jaguars, though, or lions. This is cat (Felis sylvestris catus) vs. dog. Jaguars and lions are both pantherinae whereas domestic and wildcats are felinae.
A cat could outflank a St. Bernard, but might struggle against an Alsatian; likewise, it could bat a chihuahua around but would be harried by a terrier.
A cat could outflank a St. Bernard, but might struggle against an Alsatian; likewise, it could bat a chihuahua around but would be harried by a terrier.
I'd say a dog is fiercer, but not necessarily the better fighter or the one that would come out on top.
I know certain dogs that I'd put up against virtually any cat. But if we're using the "typical" dog and the "typical" cat, I'd say cats (not house cats) are more nimble, agile, quick, and smarter when they attack.
From what I've seen of dogs fighting, they get in the zone and aren't very clear in the head about things, which would be a disadvantage against an opponent that can jump/pounce with precision.
I know certain dogs that I'd put up against virtually any cat. But if we're using the "typical" dog and the "typical" cat, I'd say cats (not house cats) are more nimble, agile, quick, and smarter when they attack.
From what I've seen of dogs fighting, they get in the zone and aren't very clear in the head about things, which would be a disadvantage against an opponent that can jump/pounce with precision.
Catharsis
catch u on the flip scythe
Well, I inferred from the OP:
Narz said:
that we were discussing who would win in a fight.
As for who is fiercer, I'd probably pick the cat again, because dogs hunt out of necessity and kill their prey to eat it, whereas cats are sadistic psychopaths who kill for the fun of it.
Yes, yes, I realise that the OP is different from the thread title. I was just pointing it out.
