conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
I will take the Persians.
*Preveiw thread!*- XNES1
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Grandmaster
Deity
I'd like to reserve #20, the Mecca-Medina Arab civ.
oaky, glad to see so many people filling up!
okay only two more pre-appilcants allowed
note that I have decided to give all the pre-applicants a bonus
you can cash this bonus in at any time, for a specified increse of a stat or soem free troops, or chance it by asking me for a "random" bonus which may result in a large or small increse in one or several things, though it could be all the stuff you didnt need to have a bonus in... all depends on how the die I plan to throw for it rolls
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okay only two more pre-appilcants allowed
note that I have decided to give all the pre-applicants a bonus
you can cash this bonus in at any time, for a specified increse of a stat or soem free troops, or chance it by asking me for a "random" bonus which may result in a large or small increse in one or several things, though it could be all the stuff you didnt need to have a bonus in... all depends on how the die I plan to throw for it rolls
...North King
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#25, Gupta please. 
das
Regeneration In Process
People always quickly sign up when they know that this NES is coming soon.
.:KNAS:.
Civfanatic
Dibs on no.5, Northdmen
first- a big thanks to pawpaw for summing it all up for me 
second, my condition to start this early was that AAminion update his NES
third, because I know you all do want to get started, i will hopefully soon post all the current players stats for thier nations- note these are pre-made, as will all nations stats- the concept of the game is to take leadersjip of nation in the world around the time of the 4th-5th centuries CE, therefore all the natiosn have a different starting flavour to them, according to how that nations was in real life.
BTW-
To the "barbarians"remember tribes, your nations are weaker then the major nations in almost all aspects, exluding some fo the bunuses you will get with your UU, or if you use that bonus I gave all pre-sign up nations wiselly, but for the most part, count on a semi rocky start- expanding into either unclaimed territory and building up will be important, as will creating tribal federations to stop you eneimes
To the established powers Individually, the barb civs are weak, and many times will work with you to go agiasnt oneanother for the right price- but generally speaking, full blown invasions are frowned upon by them, and doing so may cause a mass uprsing- your powerful, but the entire old world of the establshed civs has been turned upside down with massive empire splits spannign the entire globe at about the same time- your powerful, but your not invincible, to go good you will need a good national stratgy, and a good toungue an dear for diplomacy, both with other powers, and the barbarian upstarts now forming into real nations of thier own...
a note on conquest conquest is going to be both rewarded, and pucnishe din this game- the conquest of land will mean spoils added to your treasury, andin some cases even troops, be they deserters from say the romans or chinese, or new federate troops with out having to hand over land from the barbarians- though one can rest assured, conquest will bring riches
the downfall to this is that generally speking, people dont liek being conqoured- and unless your retaking land that belonged to a similer people- say liek in real life, how the Byzantine empire retook a good deal of the old Roman west, you can expect that there will be resistence form the local peoples, somtimes resulting in an economy removed from your treasury to pacify the locals, or even a popular uprising -again this all depends on the cast of a die
second, my condition to start this early was that AAminion update his NES
third, because I know you all do want to get started, i will hopefully soon post all the current players stats for thier nations- note these are pre-made, as will all nations stats- the concept of the game is to take leadersjip of nation in the world around the time of the 4th-5th centuries CE, therefore all the natiosn have a different starting flavour to them, according to how that nations was in real life.
BTW-
To the "barbarians"remember tribes, your nations are weaker then the major nations in almost all aspects, exluding some fo the bunuses you will get with your UU, or if you use that bonus I gave all pre-sign up nations wiselly, but for the most part, count on a semi rocky start- expanding into either unclaimed territory and building up will be important, as will creating tribal federations to stop you eneimes
To the established powers Individually, the barb civs are weak, and many times will work with you to go agiasnt oneanother for the right price- but generally speaking, full blown invasions are frowned upon by them, and doing so may cause a mass uprsing- your powerful, but the entire old world of the establshed civs has been turned upside down with massive empire splits spannign the entire globe at about the same time- your powerful, but your not invincible, to go good you will need a good national stratgy, and a good toungue an dear for diplomacy, both with other powers, and the barbarian upstarts now forming into real nations of thier own...
a note on conquest conquest is going to be both rewarded, and pucnishe din this game- the conquest of land will mean spoils added to your treasury, andin some cases even troops, be they deserters from say the romans or chinese, or new federate troops with out having to hand over land from the barbarians- though one can rest assured, conquest will bring riches
the downfall to this is that generally speking, people dont liek being conqoured- and unless your retaking land that belonged to a similer people- say liek in real life, how the Byzantine empire retook a good deal of the old Roman west, you can expect that there will be resistence form the local peoples, somtimes resulting in an economy removed from your treasury to pacify the locals, or even a popular uprising -again this all depends on the cast of a die
Grandmaster
Deity
Come on now, don't wait for Minion. I want to get this NES started. How's about we work out a different deal? Say, you start this NES and I'll grant Venice overlordship over all Europe west of the Rhine? (not really )
You know you want to. Hell, you need to. Start this NES.
)You know you want to. Hell, you need to. Start this NES.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
I agree with grandmaster, but i wont' give u anything...
do I want to? hell yes.
am i ready? not quite- I'm going all out on nation stats, trying to make them realistic, further more, I'm writing short descriptions of the UUs- so players know a little history about them, as well as thier specific bonuses- yes, bonuses folks- UUs will be for more then just looking pretty on your stats now, mainlly because I'm amking you people learn **** for this NES- to wage successful war, yu need to knwo the general settin gof the area your invadeing/ defending, and prepare accordinglly- most UUs offer a more versitile stratrgy to go alng iwht he standad infantry, archer, cavalry, warband, mercenary mix (mercenairs fill assorted roles in the game, usually fillign in for a type of troops unabalible to a certian civ- eg; federate troops for the romans, Roman deserters of the european barbaians fulling for the romans the warband role, an dfo rthe barbs the ordered infantry role)
more then just the play civs, I have the other civs to worry baout, though i may just give them template stats, and only individualize them once it matters, or over a short time as the game sarts, though hopefully i will have the player nations up tonight, and the entire game up by tomorrow, depending on what my plans are (last day of shcool, its me and my friends are celibrateing, I dont know how long this will last though)
am i ready? not quite- I'm going all out on nation stats, trying to make them realistic, further more, I'm writing short descriptions of the UUs- so players know a little history about them, as well as thier specific bonuses- yes, bonuses folks- UUs will be for more then just looking pretty on your stats now, mainlly because I'm amking you people learn **** for this NES- to wage successful war, yu need to knwo the general settin gof the area your invadeing/ defending, and prepare accordinglly- most UUs offer a more versitile stratrgy to go alng iwht he standad infantry, archer, cavalry, warband, mercenary mix (mercenairs fill assorted roles in the game, usually fillign in for a type of troops unabalible to a certian civ- eg; federate troops for the romans, Roman deserters of the european barbaians fulling for the romans the warband role, an dfo rthe barbs the ordered infantry role)
more then just the play civs, I have the other civs to worry baout, though i may just give them template stats, and only individualize them once it matters, or over a short time as the game sarts, though hopefully i will have the player nations up tonight, and the entire game up by tomorrow, depending on what my plans are (last day of shcool, its me and my friends are celibrateing, I dont know how long this will last though)
Grandmaster
Deity
Oh come on, just make it up as you go along. That's what I've been doing in stGMNES.
But seriously, take your time; this looks to be a good one, and well worth the wait.
And now I'm angry that your schoolyear is already over while I still have more'n a month left. :angry:
But seriously, take your time; this looks to be a good one, and well worth the wait.
And now I'm angry that your schoolyear is already over while I still have more'n a month left. :angry:
Okay, here are they current player nations stats, a few o fthe specifics may be changed, but mostlly only levals of culture and the name of the religion (note i dont knwo which the chinese would be worshipiing at the time)
Western Roman Empire
Leader- Julian the Apostate/Aaminion00
Economy- 2
Culture- High
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 1500 UU, 2000 Infantry, 500 Cavalry, 1000 Archers, 2500 Mercenaries
Navy- 20 Triremes
UU- Late Legionaries- 300 per econ, strong fighters, are, despite the times and
reputation of them, still the single strongest infantry in the world, however,
they are slow to recruit, and it takes a lot of time and money to build up
significant numbers of them. (Bonus against all other troops types, large bonus
against enemy foot, and archers, disadvantage in heavy forests)
Army Morale- Mediocre
Wonders-
Eastern Roman Empire
Leader- Constantius II/ Amenhotep7
Economy- 4
Culture- High
Religion- Christianity
Army- 2000 UU, 1000 Infantry, 1500 Archers, 1000 Cavalry, 2000 Mercenaries
Navy- 35 Triremes
UU- Cataphract Cavalry- 650 per econ, the strongest type of heavy cavalry
known, and versatile to the core, fighting with a multitude of weapons, heavily
armored, and heavily trained, their only draw back being their expensiveness,
and the limitations of most horsemen in some terrains. (Large bonus against
foot, ranged, and some cavalry, disadvantage in mountainous, heavily forested,
and desert terrain)
Army Morale- Poor
Wonders-
Visigoths
Leader- Fretigern/ das
Economy- 2
Culture- Mediocre
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 300 UU, 300 Archers, 400 war band
Navy-0
UU- Gothic Huscarls- 400 per econ, these troops are cross breed of traditional
barbarian warfare, and the organized ways of the Romans, strong on the
offensive, they are comparable to even the Western Roman empires premier
troops, the last vestiges of the Imperial Roman Legions, however, this is
generally only on favorable terms, and on the offensive, on the defensive, the
morale of these troops sinks terribly, and more often then not, they would
choose to flee, as their defense is far less then what could be desired when
comparing them to those same Legions (Bonus against most foot troops, large
bonus if in forests of any type, large bonus if on offensive disadvantage in
open terrain, Large disadvantage is facing organized opponents on their
favorable terrain, large disadvantage if on defensive)
Army Morale- Good
Wonders-
Alans
Leader- Rheasus/ pawpaw
Economy- 1
Culture- Non Existent
Religion- Animism
Army- 1500 UU, 1500 Cavalry
Navy- 0
UU- Heavy Horse Archer- 400 per econ, These troops are essentially what have
won the peoples of the steppes acclaim since the bronze age, highly
unorganized, they can only be gathered together at either great expense, or at
the promise of riches- skilled at raiding, they can be a dangerous foe on the
offensive (Bonus against other cavalry and archers, large bonus on the
offensive, disadvantage in heavy forests, and against, slight possibility of
generating plunder on offensive)
Army Morale- Fair
Wonders-
Wu
Leader- Sun Quan/ Alex994
Economy- 3
Culture- High
Religion-
Army- 5000 Infantry, 2000 Cavalry, 2000 Archers
Navy- 40 UU
UU- River War Barge- 10 per econ, these ships are essentially what separated
and protected the Wu for their long history against the other three kingdom,
patrolling the many rivers of the area that separated the Wu kingdom from the
other ex-Chinese kingdoms (Bonus against all other ships, increases the likely
hood of the Wu being able to repel invasion at the start of it)
Army Morale- Fair
Wonders-
Roman Kingdom of Britannia
Leader- Ambrosius Aurelianus/ falling icarus
Economy- 2
Culture- Poor
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 600 UU, 1600 Infantry, 500 cavalry, 1000 Archers
Navy- 15 Triremes
UU- Arthurian Knights- 300 per econ, these are some of the best cavalry
anywhere in the world use to being out numbered, these troops are also use to
relying on vastly inferior supporting troops to help win the battle, armed like
the classic Roman cataphracts, but assembled by traditions of barbarians raise
noble soldiers, these troops offer an interesting mix of both worlds, fiercely
loyal , they can be counted on to defend their homelands at all costs,
particularly from the barbarians across the channel (bonus against all troop
types, Large Bonus in defending actions, large Bonus making naval landing,
large bonus defending from naval landings, disadvantage if heavy forests and
mountains)
Army Morale- High
Wonders-
Persia
Leader- Khosroe/conehead234
Economy- 4
Culture- High
Religion- Zoroastrianism
Army- 1700 UU, 2500 Archers, 1500 Cavalry, 2000 Infantry
Navy- 10 Galleys
UU- Clibinarii- 650 per econ, these cavalry are a sort of medium cavalry, a
cross between the old Parthian cataphracts, and their light horse archers, and
greatly responsible for the destruction of the Parthian empire, these troops
are well accustomed to traveling the deserts suppressing the many internal
rebellions of the Persian throne, as such these troops have a superb offence
and speed (Bonus against cavalry, large bonus on offensive, bonus in deserts/
Mesopotamia, disadvantage against ordered infantry, heavy cavalry, and in
mountainous terrain)
Army Morale- Poor
Wonders-
Teutons
Leader- Foderick/ Norseone
Economy- 1
Culture- Non Existent
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 1300 UU, 1000 War band
Navy-0
UU- Tuetonic Axe men- 600 per econ, the semi standard of the incredibly
barbarous Teutons, they arent all that different from the standard war
bands of the Germanic tribes, aside form their generally noble upbringing,
though they make the distinction of being some of the most savage fighters
around, they inspire quite a bit of in trepidation in all but the most seasoned
and steadfast of troops (bonus against enemy war bands, Large bonus in forests,
disadvantage in open terrain, disadvantage against ordered foot, territories
conquered with significant amount of them are less likely to rebel from fear)
Army Morale-
Wonders-
Gupta
Leader- Chandragupta/ northking
Economy- 3
Culture- Fair
Religion- Hinduism
Army- 500 UU, 3000 Archers, 3000 Warband
Navy-0
UU- Light Armored Elephant- 100 per econ, these are truly massive beasts of
war, and if properly trained are an almost unstoppable force, virtually
impervious to most archer fire, and cavalry shy away from them as if they were
the plague- so do most foot troops, so much so thats its only ordered
infantry such as the like Alexander the great, or Scipio Africanus had that can
properly give the beasts any contest in most circumstances (Large bonus against
all other troops types except ordered Infantry, Large bonus against cavalry
disadvantage against ordered Infantry, disadvantage in heavy forests,
Mountains, and deserts)
Army Morale- Mediocre
Wonders-
Nordsmen
Leader- Sven/ :Knas
Economy- 1
Culture- Non Existent
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 2000 war band
Navy- 30 UU
UU- Longboats- 12- per econ, a ship design dating from the time of the Celts,
it has expanded in popularity all along the North Atlantic, and Baltic coast
line, where it is just beginning to come into popularity among the populaces
warlords- small and swift, it offers no distinctive combat advantages against
other ships, however, it dose give the troops inside of it the step up in
launching sea raids and invasions (bonus when launching sea invasions,
possibility of plunder from sea born attacks)
Army Morale- Fair
Wonders-
so, what do you guys think?
Western Roman Empire
Leader- Julian the Apostate/Aaminion00
Economy- 2
Culture- High
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 1500 UU, 2000 Infantry, 500 Cavalry, 1000 Archers, 2500 Mercenaries
Navy- 20 Triremes
UU- Late Legionaries- 300 per econ, strong fighters, are, despite the times and
reputation of them, still the single strongest infantry in the world, however,
they are slow to recruit, and it takes a lot of time and money to build up
significant numbers of them. (Bonus against all other troops types, large bonus
against enemy foot, and archers, disadvantage in heavy forests)
Army Morale- Mediocre
Wonders-
Eastern Roman Empire
Leader- Constantius II/ Amenhotep7
Economy- 4
Culture- High
Religion- Christianity
Army- 2000 UU, 1000 Infantry, 1500 Archers, 1000 Cavalry, 2000 Mercenaries
Navy- 35 Triremes
UU- Cataphract Cavalry- 650 per econ, the strongest type of heavy cavalry
known, and versatile to the core, fighting with a multitude of weapons, heavily
armored, and heavily trained, their only draw back being their expensiveness,
and the limitations of most horsemen in some terrains. (Large bonus against
foot, ranged, and some cavalry, disadvantage in mountainous, heavily forested,
and desert terrain)
Army Morale- Poor
Wonders-
Visigoths
Leader- Fretigern/ das
Economy- 2
Culture- Mediocre
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 300 UU, 300 Archers, 400 war band
Navy-0
UU- Gothic Huscarls- 400 per econ, these troops are cross breed of traditional
barbarian warfare, and the organized ways of the Romans, strong on the
offensive, they are comparable to even the Western Roman empires premier
troops, the last vestiges of the Imperial Roman Legions, however, this is
generally only on favorable terms, and on the offensive, on the defensive, the
morale of these troops sinks terribly, and more often then not, they would
choose to flee, as their defense is far less then what could be desired when
comparing them to those same Legions (Bonus against most foot troops, large
bonus if in forests of any type, large bonus if on offensive disadvantage in
open terrain, Large disadvantage is facing organized opponents on their
favorable terrain, large disadvantage if on defensive)
Army Morale- Good
Wonders-
Alans
Leader- Rheasus/ pawpaw
Economy- 1
Culture- Non Existent
Religion- Animism
Army- 1500 UU, 1500 Cavalry
Navy- 0
UU- Heavy Horse Archer- 400 per econ, These troops are essentially what have
won the peoples of the steppes acclaim since the bronze age, highly
unorganized, they can only be gathered together at either great expense, or at
the promise of riches- skilled at raiding, they can be a dangerous foe on the
offensive (Bonus against other cavalry and archers, large bonus on the
offensive, disadvantage in heavy forests, and against, slight possibility of
generating plunder on offensive)
Army Morale- Fair
Wonders-
Wu
Leader- Sun Quan/ Alex994
Economy- 3
Culture- High
Religion-
Army- 5000 Infantry, 2000 Cavalry, 2000 Archers
Navy- 40 UU
UU- River War Barge- 10 per econ, these ships are essentially what separated
and protected the Wu for their long history against the other three kingdom,
patrolling the many rivers of the area that separated the Wu kingdom from the
other ex-Chinese kingdoms (Bonus against all other ships, increases the likely
hood of the Wu being able to repel invasion at the start of it)
Army Morale- Fair
Wonders-
Roman Kingdom of Britannia
Leader- Ambrosius Aurelianus/ falling icarus
Economy- 2
Culture- Poor
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 600 UU, 1600 Infantry, 500 cavalry, 1000 Archers
Navy- 15 Triremes
UU- Arthurian Knights- 300 per econ, these are some of the best cavalry
anywhere in the world use to being out numbered, these troops are also use to
relying on vastly inferior supporting troops to help win the battle, armed like
the classic Roman cataphracts, but assembled by traditions of barbarians raise
noble soldiers, these troops offer an interesting mix of both worlds, fiercely
loyal , they can be counted on to defend their homelands at all costs,
particularly from the barbarians across the channel (bonus against all troop
types, Large Bonus in defending actions, large Bonus making naval landing,
large bonus defending from naval landings, disadvantage if heavy forests and
mountains)
Army Morale- High
Wonders-
Persia
Leader- Khosroe/conehead234
Economy- 4
Culture- High
Religion- Zoroastrianism
Army- 1700 UU, 2500 Archers, 1500 Cavalry, 2000 Infantry
Navy- 10 Galleys
UU- Clibinarii- 650 per econ, these cavalry are a sort of medium cavalry, a
cross between the old Parthian cataphracts, and their light horse archers, and
greatly responsible for the destruction of the Parthian empire, these troops
are well accustomed to traveling the deserts suppressing the many internal
rebellions of the Persian throne, as such these troops have a superb offence
and speed (Bonus against cavalry, large bonus on offensive, bonus in deserts/
Mesopotamia, disadvantage against ordered infantry, heavy cavalry, and in
mountainous terrain)
Army Morale- Poor
Wonders-
Teutons
Leader- Foderick/ Norseone
Economy- 1
Culture- Non Existent
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 1300 UU, 1000 War band
Navy-0
UU- Tuetonic Axe men- 600 per econ, the semi standard of the incredibly
barbarous Teutons, they arent all that different from the standard war
bands of the Germanic tribes, aside form their generally noble upbringing,
though they make the distinction of being some of the most savage fighters
around, they inspire quite a bit of in trepidation in all but the most seasoned
and steadfast of troops (bonus against enemy war bands, Large bonus in forests,
disadvantage in open terrain, disadvantage against ordered foot, territories
conquered with significant amount of them are less likely to rebel from fear)
Army Morale-
Wonders-
Gupta
Leader- Chandragupta/ northking
Economy- 3
Culture- Fair
Religion- Hinduism
Army- 500 UU, 3000 Archers, 3000 Warband
Navy-0
UU- Light Armored Elephant- 100 per econ, these are truly massive beasts of
war, and if properly trained are an almost unstoppable force, virtually
impervious to most archer fire, and cavalry shy away from them as if they were
the plague- so do most foot troops, so much so thats its only ordered
infantry such as the like Alexander the great, or Scipio Africanus had that can
properly give the beasts any contest in most circumstances (Large bonus against
all other troops types except ordered Infantry, Large bonus against cavalry
disadvantage against ordered Infantry, disadvantage in heavy forests,
Mountains, and deserts)
Army Morale- Mediocre
Wonders-
Nordsmen
Leader- Sven/ :Knas
Economy- 1
Culture- Non Existent
Religion- Polytheism
Army- 2000 war band
Navy- 30 UU
UU- Longboats- 12- per econ, a ship design dating from the time of the Celts,
it has expanded in popularity all along the North Atlantic, and Baltic coast
line, where it is just beginning to come into popularity among the populaces
warlords- small and swift, it offers no distinctive combat advantages against
other ships, however, it dose give the troops inside of it the step up in
launching sea raids and invasions (bonus when launching sea invasions,
possibility of plunder from sea born attacks)
Army Morale- Fair
Wonders-
so, what do you guys think?
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
the stats are great, u could have the chinese religon as Confusicnism, or something spelled like that
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
Looks good.
Grandmaster
Deity
Looks good, 'cept that my Hedjaz isn't up there.
Looking forward to the real threat opening.
Looking forward to the real threat opening.
.:KNAS:.
Civfanatic
Your army morale names differ from theese nation stats and the morale list on the first page, Fair, Mediocre, neither are in that list. Should i assume that Mediocre is Standard and Fair is Good?
Also the Teutons don't have any army morale at all
Also the Teutons don't have any army morale at all
the rules are under going a slight re-adjustment, as over the severl months I have postponed this thing, I'm thought of new things include, and refine- the basics are still the same, its mostlly fine tuning- such as the dropping of economic rankings which have a cap at 5, for a *technically* limitless numbers based econ, and of course the added versitility of UUs and what not
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