Privacy in the car, privacy on the computer?

[scy12]

Computer for the reasons stated above . Such systems though would always be hacked. Or at least people would try to.

 

[philippe]

privacy in the car when I'm not alone.

 

[Bartleby]

I don't have a car.

Or does that just mean I don't get a choice?

 

[Erik Mesoy]

I don't have a car.

Or does that just mean I don't get a choice?

Read the OP.

Even if you don't have a car or drive a car or whatever, just assume that you do, and you use it fairly regularly, for the sake of this exercise.

 

[Bartleby]

Righto, I'll go with the car-cam.

 

[Aegis]

C - Overthrow our communist dictatorship

 

[Mise]

I'd be screwed if the police knew how many driving offences I really commit. Computer crime, not so much.

 

[amadeus]

C - Overthrow our communist dictatorship

It's just a metro ride away, Aegis.

 

[sourboy]

Computer > Car, but to hell if I'd let them monitor either!

 

[stormbind]

They promise that none of that information would be used unless you commit a crime...

If they know you committed a crime, why would they want that information? What is the connection

Perhaps you meant "...in the event that you are suspected of a crime" instead? This somewhat changes the scenario as it implies they will check it periodically on the assumption that everyone can commit a crime at least once.

Even if you don't have a car or drive a car or whatever, just assume that you do, and you use it fairly regularly, for the sake of this exercise.

I do not assume this. Isn't it possible that we want neither and prefer to devices registered in another's name? I already do.

Replacing or using a different car/computer won't get the gubmint out, as they've gotten into all of them.

Even foreign imports? Does your gubmint controls all governments? Do you have a picture of your gubmint?

 

[LucyDuke]

If they know you committed a crime, why would they want that information? What is the connection

Perhaps you meant "...in the event that you are suspected of a crime" instead? This somewhat changes the scenario as it implies they will check it periodically on the assumption that everyone can commit a crime at least once.

Unless you commit a crime, the gubmint will not use the information gathered about you. Assume there's some sort of automated crime detection system or something.

I do not assume this. Isn't it possible that we want neither and prefer to devices registered in another's name? I already do.

Even foreign imports? Does your gubmint controls all governments? Do you have a picture of your gubmint?

Dude, it's a freakin' hypothetical. It doesn't matter who's name is on the car or the computer, the gubmint sees you using it. The gubmint is global, the gubmint sees all.

I think you're just trying to be clever.

 

[stormbind]

Unless you commit a crime, the gubmint will not use the information gathered about you. Assume there's some sort of automated crime detection system or something.

Something like in Minority Report?

 

[stormbind]

I think you're just trying to be clever.

I don't do clever and there are thousands of citable posts to prove it

 

[Elta]

Computer - I do so much illegal things in my car ....... I am a threat to everyone and should be locked up

 

[Bill3000]

There's really no such thing as liberty when it comes to driving - the entire point of rules while driving is safety. Essentially all cries of nanny state/1984/etc when it comes to driving is irrelevent when it comes to driving. (Though I'm talking about driving here, not actions in the car per se - so something like using a cell phone while driving would count, but not masturbating to pix of Lucy when the car's parked.) The computer, on the other hand, is an instrument for expressing oneself and what crap - there's no question that I'd prefer that to not be censored.

 

[Narz]

I don't have a car so the choice is obvious.

 

[LucyDuke]

I don't have a car so the choice is obvious.

Even if you don't have a car or drive a car or whatever, just assume that you do, and you use it fairly regularly, for the sake of this exercise.

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

Neither is acceptable to me and I would go down fighting.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

I hate Google too.

 

[dwaxe]

tbh, I actually more often commit quasi-crimes on my computer than in my car.