warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Then we agree.
But when you get all emotional, scream "It should be banned altogether!", then people tend to think that.. you want to have it banned. you know?
Putin's Executive Order: Casinos to be shut-down in Russia
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Then we agree.
But when you get all emotional, scream "It should be banned altogether!", then people tend to think that.. you want to have it banned. you know?
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Glad I don't live in Russia or I'd be royally screwed (and pissed)
In that way Moscow will lost lot of incomes. But I think that absolutely poor and absolutely wealthy will allways find ways. Banning something is not solution and it was proved many times.
I have not much experiences with gambling though. I have always thought that it should be one of things which should be nationalized to maximalize profit and ensure control.
I have not much experiences with gambling though. I have always thought that it should be one of things which should be nationalized to maximalize profit and ensure control.
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Pish-posh; prohibition completely quelled the usage of alcohol, narcotics, the sale of sexual services, smuggled foreign goods, media hostile to the regime and now it will do the same to gambling!
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
That you could no longer waste your money on rigged games of chance? And once again, it's not all of Russia. They merely want to limit it to 4 locations instead of everywhere.
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
CG works at a casino.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Amadeus gets 200 internets for making that statement.
What do you do there?
Isnt "regulated gambling" just winnings the government is allowed to put their hand in? How does "regulating" gambling make is safer? It may keep the crooks...as in the mafia types.....out but I dont see how the US Regulation of gambling makes it any "safer".
I can understand regulation making it so that the games can't be fixed so the house always wins, but that still leads to gambling addiction.
I wouldnt be for banning though.
I can understand regulation making it so that the games can't be fixed so the house always wins, but that still leads to gambling addiction.
I wouldnt be for banning though.
Various protections for children and vulnerable adults. It's not about the evil government creating a new source of income.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
If you are a gambler and want to have any chance of actually winning, it makes all the difference in the world.
For instance, the house advantage in blackjack when the players knows how to bet is miniscule under most regulated environments. If you are skilled, e.g. smart enough to read and understand a fairly simple book about playing blackjack, you can play for hours while typically losing a very small amount. That turns it into entertainment instead of willful robbery.
Furthermore, if you have a run of good hands you can even will a sizeable amount on those occasions when luck is on your side. And if you are smart enough to set a realistic limit when the odds are in the other direction, you can even enjoy a modicum of success if you are savvy enough to know when to walk away. And the casinos will even teach you how to play all their house games to maximize those odds.
Unfortunately, moet people don't take that time to learn the proper strategies, or they even delude themselves into thinking they have some unbeatable scheme that can beat the house odds. These are the sort of people that the casinos really like. They are the ones who consistently lose large amounts.
But nobody can do well when the house odds are sufficiently stacked against them. it is literally a license to steal.
Gambling is like any other vice. It is not inherently evil. It only becomes so when the person has no self-control. Should we penalize everybody for the addictions of the few?
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Right now, I work both as an office support personnel and a pit clerk. I'm hoping to get a transfer into a more stable position in the back of the house.
Actually, the Casino that I work for do have a concern for gambling addicts and all employees are encouraged to deny a patron who has a gambling addiction and redirect him or her to a gambling addiction hotline.
No, how does goverment regulation protect adults? Is there a law that states an adult cannot walk into a casino?
Well to the first part I agree and said that regulation that regulates payouts so that the house doesnt always win is something that regulation can do, but government regulation of casinos isnt going to protect a free willed person.
As far as the second part ,the penalize everybody for the addictions of a few, I said it shouldnt be banned just for that reason.
innonimatu
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No sense in killing the golden egg goose!
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
I should have better edited your post. I was addressing how government regulation makes them "safer" by ensuring they are legitimate games of chance with predictable and known odds.
And, as CivGeneral pointed out, they are also required to not take direct advantage of those who are hopelessly addicted, but of course that's a judgement call.
aelf
Ashen One
You mean the lame crap they're setting up there as part of a family-oriented resort?
Singapore must be really desperate for income indeed to have come to bank on casinos. I wonder what happened to its vast 'human resources'.
You mean the lame crap they're setting up there as part of a family-oriented resort?
Singapore must be really desperate for income indeed to have come to bank on casinos. I wonder what happened to its vast 'human resources'.
They are desperate... but one can either lose their fortunes in a casino, stock market ,lottery... or jack pot machines club... so its best not to gamble in things u cannot understand...
anyway, im still a supporter of casinos...i bet it will add more life into the economy. or maybe it will take more...
Shadylookin
master debater
Las Vegas was built by the mafia you can't get any more unregulated than that.
I'm against the government passing laws in attempt to save people from themselves. So I think it's a bad move.
aelf
Ashen One
They are desperate... but one can either lose their fortunes in a casino, stock market ,lottery... or jack pot machines club... so its best not to gamble in things u cannot understand...
anyway, im still a supporter of casinos...i bet it will add more life into the economy. or maybe it will take more...
Meh. If the fundamentals are not strong enough, casinos won't help. Certainly not without a massive rethink of the policy of being tough on vice. Not going to happen anytime soon. And when it does happen, it will become just another Macau.
And to think that the authorities were concerned about gambling addiction, which takes root very easily in the society. Desperate indeed.
