Question for CFC teenagers

feline_dacat said:
It makes me feel old [at 20!] that i am officially excluded from this survey! :'(

Try being 34!

Actually, I think people who are 20 are best to understand the capability of the teenage mind. They've matured to a degree to understand how little they really knew as teens, but young enough to remember the things they did have right, unlike oldies like me who have completely forgotten.
 
"Do you consider yourself a child?"

no, havent since i was 15 (19 next month)

"Do you think your incapable of being responsible for your actions?"

nope, but i wish someone else made my decisions for me

"Do you agree with the state of limited human rights which teenagers have (in the United States)?"

i suppose so, dont know anything about them tho
 
I do not consider myself a child, but then, I never did. Even when I was a child.

I am 17, and I'm quite sure I am a far more responsible citizen than millions of Americans older than I. There are some exceptionally responsible children, and some exceptionally wanton and capricious adults. It seems, therefore, that age limits, which are nought but vague generalizations, should be abolished in place of some truer indicator of responsibility. What that might be, I have no idea.

It must be acknowledged, however, that even the most precocious of children is more responsible at 25 than they are at any previous age. This is due simply to brain development and endocrinal changes. A highly responsible person who is only partially developed may still be more responsible than a completely developed burn-out, though.
 
toh6wy said:
1. No - but I will always retain that childish spirit! :D
2. No. Barring unusual situations.
3. I agree with some of them. The later people are allowed to drink and smoke, the better IMO. However, it'd be nice to be able to vote. I'm sure I'd be more competent than plenty of "official" adults.

Well, I almost threw something at my TV when I saw some guy proposing giving 17 year olds a 3/4 vote, 16 year olds a half-vote, 15 year olds a quarter vote, etc. I personally think the voting age is fine where it is. All it would do would lower the percentage of people voting even more. Plus there is still the risk of teenagers just voting how they are told by their parents. I'd argue that most teenagers aren't going to make an informed decision, but, than again, many adults don't do so either. At the very least, I would suggest not lowering below 16, and never create something stupid like half-votes.

For drinking age, I think it should be 18 again (so you can show up drunk at the polls ;) ). I doubt it will change the illegal drinking, regardless of what age it is set at.
 
(1)No,I'm 19 and a half,so...
(2)No.I'm responsible for my actions,fully.
(3)I can drink alcohol at the age of 6,can never drive a bicycle without hitting somebody,have never taken any recreational drugs(I behave,really!).
 
1) Yes however one who towers over most people (15)
2)No I Know that for each action their will be a consequence
3)18 should be alcohol age, but if we werent forced to go to school I doubt many students would bother with going.
 
Not a child haven't been for quite some time, even when I was a child I was more mature then most Children.
I know there are consequences for actions but they dont really apply to me, Im special I never get in trouble for anything I do even if I should have gotten in trouble.
Laws for minors, those are for other people, I dont follow laws and dont get in trouble either.
 
Narz said:
I never said you wouldn't have to pay your own way. If you could support yourself you should have the right to go where you please, even at 15, that's what I believe anyway.
I interpreted the word "right" as something the state must provide for you, not something you'd have to provide for yourself.

Minors can go to court for emancipation if they have the resources availible. Each state has their own laws governing this.

My main qualm here is not the drinking laws or driving laws or even consent laws it's with the fact that until a certain age youths are considered the property of their parents and can have little to no say about where they live.
They are effectively property. They are parasites. What do they produce? How do they compensate for their expense? They go to school and listen to their parents. That's the price.
 
"My main qualm here is not the drinking laws or driving laws or even consent laws it's with the fact that until a certain age youths are considered the property of their parents and can have little to no say about where they live."

In a non-abusive familial relationship, it seems to me that benefit to parent and child is reciprocated - considering child protection laws, it might be extreme to suggest that a child is akin to property.
 
The problem in Louisiana goes deeper than the limiting of rights, which is getting out of hand. Truly the trouble is that responsibilities are increased long before rights. For instance, a thirteen-year-old can be tried as an adult in any sex-crime. However, that same individual cannot consent to sex until the age of seventeen. If there exists a lack of understanding in one, there is in the other. Just one example.
 
Do you agree with the state of limited human rights which teenagers have (in the United States)?
-Hmm, I'm very annoyed at being forced to go to a school where I learn nothing of relevance, but then I also understand that most people my age are so mind-numbingly stupid that they need to be forced to learn. And that much of what we learn will be useful to the majority of students, even if it's all worthless to me.
 
I beleive I am capable of responsibility, but I also completely agree with the restrictions of rights for teenagers.

Any line at which a person is deemed mature an adult will be arbitrary. A truly mature teenager is able to work out with his parents what he is going to do (assuming his parents are reasonable, of course) or, if that fails, go along with it.

Any teenager who whines about not being able to choose his high school or such is forgetting that he is not paying for it.
 
But a parent who forces his child into a certain course is also forgetting that it's the child's future that is at stake, not theirs.
 
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