Lighthearter
President of the United States
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MathNerd
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I think story update. The last game update actually covered the most recent move, even though it was 30 some odd pages ago.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
Actually I think I'm gonna pass. The TKD master nearly killed us training at Martial Arts earlier and the girl I was debating with happens to be a black belt who has admitted to not believing in the philosophy. I'm not going to find my writer's zone now, methinks. Tomorrow is a calm, stay-at-home day so I'll catch you then. I might get on this tongith too anyway.
Oh and arya let's assume you're out of Moscow and safely ensconced back in London. Saves headaches on my part.
Ensconced? Maybe I'm closer to the Writing Place then I thought . . . .
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Oh and arya let's assume you're out of Moscow and safely ensconced back in London. Saves headaches on my part.
Ensconced? Maybe I'm closer to the Writing Place then I thought . . . .
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Whosit
Entropic Knight
So, did the President slip out of the Tsar's palace in the dead of night, steal a horse, er, wait, we don't know Horseback Riding . . . steal a Chariot, and gallop across a thousand miles of hostile terrain to get home?
Or did Peter just give him a drunken ultimate and deport his sorry rear out of the country?
Maybe we will never know.
Although.
This kind of ruins the whole "Are you a bad enough dude to save the President?" jokes.
So, did the President slip out of the Tsar's palace in the dead of night, steal a horse, er, wait, we don't know Horseback Riding . . . steal a Chariot, and gallop across a thousand miles of hostile terrain to get home?
Or did Peter just give him a drunken ultimate and deport his sorry rear out of the country?
Maybe we will never know.
Although.
This kind of ruins the whole "Are you a bad enough dude to save the President?" jokes.
No, he used his mind powers to contact the Magic Monks, who then teleported him out of the palace in the middle of the night; then, for an encore, they transformed Peter into a purple pony!
arya126
Squad Leader
Wait, you mean the PM i sent you about those special dudes doesnt matter now? oh well they will get a chance in the future.
Well in the matter of policy, let me pull up the questions, and ill tell you.
Well in the matter of policy, let me pull up the questions, and ill tell you.
arya126
Squad Leader
A couple things. About Resident_UK's comment about making the opposition more opposing, yeah. Get ready for some fireworks. (I'm about to PM the other opposition members with some ideas)
1. What's your tech plan?
2. Decide quickly on how to handle the hostage situation
3. Where do you plan on settling?
4. What do you plan on building in which cities?
5. WHAT? "JUST ONE LIFE"? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!!!!!!!
6. What do you want our workers to do?
7. Who do you want your allies to be?
Yeah. Just a couple things.
1. My current tech plan(this could change) is: Trade for IW-Construction-Horseback riding-meditation-polytheism-priesthood-monotheism.
2. This is being/been taken care of.
3. I plan on putting the next settler from london in the square in the low countries, that is up and diagonal to both wine tiles there. the second will go someplace in eastern Iberia. After that, we will switch to workers in london and start a long overdue plan to harvest the land we already have, and colonise some more after we secure our current holdings.
4. i plan on 2 settlers in london then a spam of workers. I will need screens of the others to determine in those.
5. It depends, but i dont want to start an arguement over that.
6. Um...isnt it obvious? i want a road from CN to birmingham, and from there to ravus. Besides that i want a focus on scotland and birmingham and whats left around london if we have a spare worker.
7. I have already answered this. Rome is unlikely, carthage would only be temproaray if at all, and the vikings are a possibility for the long term.
MathNerd
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Whosit
Entropic Knight
Horse Archers are very powerful units if leveraged properly, but I would not prioritize that technology unless you plan to start building them immediately, because the tech provides no real benefits otherwise.
The most immediate use I can see for Horse Archers is defensive: Build Stables in a production city (do we even have one of those?), promote them to Flanking II, and use them to eliminate, or at least damage, catapults in enemy stacks.
What is the purpose of researching the religious techs? Is that so the Great Prophet can bulb a religion? We'd really be better of settling the Prophet for +2 hammers, +5 gold, and researching technologies that are of more immediate use to England. We need to develop our economy and production base; chasing religions at this point will only leave us more backwards.
I've taken a look at the proposed Wine site. It's . . . not terrible, but we'll want Hereditary Rule to actually improve the Wines. Otherwise, it looks well suited for building cottages, but it will have zero production capacity and no real food bonus. It really is just a filler city, but I suppose if we don't settle it, the Romans will. However, it should not be settled unless the Settler has adequate escort (at least TWO military units).
I couldn't find a good picture of eastern Iberia, so I have no suggestions, yet. However, I eagerly await the opportunity to serve arya and glorious England.
The most immediate use I can see for Horse Archers is defensive: Build Stables in a production city (do we even have one of those?), promote them to Flanking II, and use them to eliminate, or at least damage, catapults in enemy stacks.
What is the purpose of researching the religious techs? Is that so the Great Prophet can bulb a religion? We'd really be better of settling the Prophet for +2 hammers, +5 gold, and researching technologies that are of more immediate use to England. We need to develop our economy and production base; chasing religions at this point will only leave us more backwards.
I've taken a look at the proposed Wine site. It's . . . not terrible, but we'll want Hereditary Rule to actually improve the Wines. Otherwise, it looks well suited for building cottages, but it will have zero production capacity and no real food bonus. It really is just a filler city, but I suppose if we don't settle it, the Romans will. However, it should not be settled unless the Settler has adequate escort (at least TWO military units).
I couldn't find a good picture of eastern Iberia, so I have no suggestions, yet. However, I eagerly await the opportunity to serve arya and glorious England.
We should settle Amsterdam, HBR is a filler tech thats going to be researched when it takes 1 turn (if we get into power). I chose the Vader pic because nobody else uses it, and the images from elsewhere didn't look good. I changed it because of the avatar rating forum game.
Also, I agree with aysee about Rome.
Also, I agree with aysee about Rome.
If we do research HBR, I suggest stationing horse archers on the borders to act as rapid response units in case of war, they can weaken approaching enemy stacks.
But really, we should just trade for it, it's a dead end tech, we probably don't have enough production to build stables, and i usually never build horse archers anyways.
@whosit: The reason we want to bulb a religion is because the Monks want to, and will, no one wants to anger the monks at this poin.
EDIT: @WIM: Could you post a link to it? Because I've got a few interesting pictures sitting around on my hard drive...
But really, we should just trade for it, it's a dead end tech, we probably don't have enough production to build stables, and i usually never build horse archers anyways.
@whosit: The reason we want to bulb a religion is because the Monks want to, and will, no one wants to anger the monks at this poin.
EDIT: @WIM: Could you post a link to it? Because I've got a few interesting pictures sitting around on my hard drive...
arya126
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HBR because if we research it, we are the only ones that have it. It could come in handy should we need to give a tech in a peace deal, or to trade for something else we need. Nobody else we know has the tech. Plus horse archers could be useful, though i normall dont use or even build them.
Yes we want to bulb a religion is because of the monks, and because state religion buildings could be really powerful (plus the religious wonders like the spiral minaret and/or University of sankore) until free religion which i think is more powerful than a state religion.
I chose the spot in the low countries because of the wine, and to maybe get a culture city to flip antium if possible. Ill take another look at some screens for that area and choose an alternate spot or 2 just in case. We need to contain rome, and i definitly dont want them to have a coast so close to england and the channel.
I beleive the situation with peter is relatively stable, and i feel safe chasing a religion as long as we use our production to build a military. Plus, when we research those techs, we can use them as leverage in most trades as most of europe just adopted buddhism and skipped the religious techs too.
I am opposed to Rome because of the fact that we will fight them eventually, and i highly doubt that any efforts we make will make them ally with us. A waste of time and resources in my opinion.
Yes we want to bulb a religion is because of the monks, and because state religion buildings could be really powerful (plus the religious wonders like the spiral minaret and/or University of sankore) until free religion which i think is more powerful than a state religion.
I chose the spot in the low countries because of the wine, and to maybe get a culture city to flip antium if possible. Ill take another look at some screens for that area and choose an alternate spot or 2 just in case. We need to contain rome, and i definitly dont want them to have a coast so close to england and the channel.
I beleive the situation with peter is relatively stable, and i feel safe chasing a religion as long as we use our production to build a military. Plus, when we research those techs, we can use them as leverage in most trades as most of europe just adopted buddhism and skipped the religious techs too.
I am opposed to Rome because of the fact that we will fight them eventually, and i highly doubt that any efforts we make will make them ally with us. A waste of time and resources in my opinion.
Also, did you ever consider getting a religion? We promised Ravus we'd get one, either Conf or Christianity. Also, arya, you are letting RL views block your judgement by not founding Conf. This means you are a bad leader, and should be opposed. Why should we listen to you if you actually promt a serious discussion about ******* HBR? And seriously, Poly and Mono? Theres something called filler techs you know. And one city in Iberia would leave it open to Romans and Mongols, and not grab the fish resources (That Whosit said were so powerful). And I agree with MN on question 5. The settlers in London would take too long to transport, getting them in Ravus-York would be better, and London should continue its worker spam. And we never have enough workers, especially REXing like were doing now. And the road should be built in sections so workers can work respective areas more. Also, about the Alliances - Are you kidding me? We need to have Rome as an ally, probably the Vikings as well and, later on, Carthage. Also, if we research a religion ourselves, we'd be able to use a GP for the shrine to make a lot more money for more REXing (especially with missionary spam).
Religion. Open Borders. War ally. Even trading gives you a tech bonus. Accepting all their non-outrageou demands. Outright pandering/appeasement if necessary.
Well, HBR always takes a long time to research and there's other things that are more pressing, IMO. But the AI does put a lot of value into it, so it might be useful as a trade item.
@WIM: shrines only make money if cities actually have the enshrined religion, so shrines for religions that no one has but us is next to worthless.
And if you say anything about spreading it, to spread the religion, you need to first build monasteries, then missionaries, then ship the missionary off, then try to spread it, which might not even work. Or they could have theocracy. While monasteries are worth it for the research bonus, spreading rarely pays off, unless your willing to devote a significant portion of your empire to missionary building.
And if you say anything about Org Religion: We don't have monotheism yet.
And if you say anything about spreading it, to spread the religion, you need to first build monasteries, then missionaries, then ship the missionary off, then try to spread it, which might not even work. Or they could have theocracy. While monasteries are worth it for the research bonus, spreading rarely pays off, unless your willing to devote a significant portion of your empire to missionary building.
And if you say anything about Org Religion: We don't have monotheism yet.
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