Gelion
Retired Captain
I find nothing wrong with it.
Either you make it Red vs Blue
or you don't invite the French to loose.
Either you make it Red vs Blue
or you don't invite the French to loose.
Red Versus Blue
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pboily
fingerlickinmathematickin
Is this a British initiative or a French request? The article doesn't say.
kronic said:
we'll never know. like always we weren't really in it, we just had to defend our neutral airspace against "northland" who wanted to launch airstrikes through swiss airspace
blackheart
unenlightened
CivCube said:
I did..
But back to the topic.. all I've got to express is:
Mise
isle of lucy
Pretty harmless. I don't care really...
Bluemofia
F=ma
Annoying political correctness...
Snowmen is bad. Snow sculptures is good.
Garbagemen is bad. Sanitation workers is good.
******** is bad. Mentally challanged is good.
Snowmen is bad. Snow sculptures is good.
Garbagemen is bad. Sanitation workers is good.
******** is bad. Mentally challanged is good.
Zardnaar
Deity
Well you have to be nice to the French. When was the last time they won a major battle vs a European power by themselves?
North King
blech
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Zardnaar said:
Oh, the ignorance of the French bashers. You realize you can put any nation in that sentence, and still make them out to be losers?
On Topic:
I don't care, call it whatever you like...
But yes, I did think of the Halo parody.
Zardnaar
Deity
North King said:Oh, the ignorance of the French bashers. You realize you can put any nation in that sentence, and still make them out to be losers?
On Topic:
I don't care, call it whatever you like...
But yes, I did think of the Halo parody.
Most countries can find a few victories vs worthwhile foes since 1815 though. 1871 Prussia defeats them, WW1 They had alot of help and were still rated low by the Germans, 1940 oops, 1954 Vietnam oops.
Sims2789
Fool me once...
This is petty. All they're doing is making themselves look like idiots. The battle was fought mainly between Britain and France; therefore, those countries should be represented. If they didn't feel like leaving the minor countries out they could have made Britain and its allies be the Ancein Régime team and France and its allies be the Nepotist side.
CoolioVonHoolio
Quit WoW, back to Civ.
you mean like on post #10CivCube said:
classical_hero
In whom I trust
That is why some people think they are a pacifist nation. They just do not know how to war properly since Napolean.Zardnaar said:
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
LLXerxes said:
They aren't the Queen's toys, it is an international fleet including American Vessels
Zardnaar
Deity
The bits saw on the news looked fantastic.
Illustrious
Becoming Colonel Blimp
How To Explain Re-Enactments To Your Children
The man in the boat? That's Admiral Lord Nelson. He commanded the Red fleet at Trafalgar which, as you can see, was made up of six ships. The enemy on that day 200 years ago was the Blues, who had eight ships. Some of the ships were light blue and some were dark blue, but the overall command was exercised by the admiral of the dark blues - no, he isn't represented here today by an actor, because he isn't famous enough.
As you can see, Nelson is sending a signal. It's supposed to say "Red expects that every man will do his duty", but there must be a problem in the signals department because it seems to be saying "England expects...".
Now as for the tactics used at Trafalgar - they were really innovative, known as the "Nelson touch". Watch carefully, as the Red ships sail in the vague direction of the Blue ships and shoot off fireworks. Most of the Blue ships are so impressed by this that they surrender.
Except for a sniper on one of the Blue ships, who shoots Lord Nelson in the neck. The battle goes very quiet for a while now, while Nelson dies in a dignified manner. Then the remaining Blue ships surrender and Red enjoys a hundred years of naval supremacy.
The man in the boat? That's Admiral Lord Nelson. He commanded the Red fleet at Trafalgar which, as you can see, was made up of six ships. The enemy on that day 200 years ago was the Blues, who had eight ships. Some of the ships were light blue and some were dark blue, but the overall command was exercised by the admiral of the dark blues - no, he isn't represented here today by an actor, because he isn't famous enough.
As you can see, Nelson is sending a signal. It's supposed to say "Red expects that every man will do his duty", but there must be a problem in the signals department because it seems to be saying "England expects...".
Now as for the tactics used at Trafalgar - they were really innovative, known as the "Nelson touch". Watch carefully, as the Red ships sail in the vague direction of the Blue ships and shoot off fireworks. Most of the Blue ships are so impressed by this that they surrender.
Except for a sniper on one of the Blue ships, who shoots Lord Nelson in the neck. The battle goes very quiet for a while now, while Nelson dies in a dignified manner. Then the remaining Blue ships surrender and Red enjoys a hundred years of naval supremacy.
Rambuchan
The Funky President
Up the Reds!! 
Actually this is pretty harmless, almost sensible. The whole red and blue thing isn't ridiculous.
a) If we consider the great big hoo-haa created over Japan's recent history text book revision, we see that history (especially such recent history) still holds a massive amount of symbolic clout. At a time when European nations are trying to unite it would be stupid to fuel any egotism on either side. These reactions and dynamics exist. The red and blue 'gesture' is a sensible way of pacifying these.
b) It's practical, as it conveniently gets around having to re-enact every minor detail in its finest, eg. well the Spanish had x amount of ships and did this. The main battleship in the British Fleet is being played by a French ship anyway, shows that it's not nationality being focused on here anyway but rather 'naval endeavour' in a general sense.
The point of the event was to celebrate Horatio Nelson through his naval aptitude, not a proud nation chest swelling session. It's this and the entity of the navy in general which is being celebrated, with ships coming from the US, France, Spain, India, Japan, South Korea, Pakistan, Nigeria and South Africa.
This was also being used by the navies of many countries to assist with recruitment and to reaffirm a positive, relevant image of themeselves. Navies are increasingly being used as a means to provide services such as the delivery of humanitarian aid (eg. post tsunami). These activities have less and less of a national emphasis but rather a transnational aspect to them. That's progress in my book.
Actually this is pretty harmless, almost sensible. The whole red and blue thing isn't ridiculous.
a) If we consider the great big hoo-haa created over Japan's recent history text book revision, we see that history (especially such recent history) still holds a massive amount of symbolic clout. At a time when European nations are trying to unite it would be stupid to fuel any egotism on either side. These reactions and dynamics exist. The red and blue 'gesture' is a sensible way of pacifying these.
b) It's practical, as it conveniently gets around having to re-enact every minor detail in its finest, eg. well the Spanish had x amount of ships and did this. The main battleship in the British Fleet is being played by a French ship anyway, shows that it's not nationality being focused on here anyway but rather 'naval endeavour' in a general sense.
The point of the event was to celebrate Horatio Nelson through his naval aptitude, not a proud nation chest swelling session. It's this and the entity of the navy in general which is being celebrated, with ships coming from the US, France, Spain, India, Japan, South Korea, Pakistan, Nigeria and South Africa.
This was also being used by the navies of many countries to assist with recruitment and to reaffirm a positive, relevant image of themeselves. Navies are increasingly being used as a means to provide services such as the delivery of humanitarian aid (eg. post tsunami). These activities have less and less of a national emphasis but rather a transnational aspect to them. That's progress in my book.
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