REX Queen Cathy: Because once is NOT enough!

[madscientist]

REX Queen Cathy II: Part I

Cathy yawns and scouts out the lands, considering where to construct her mighty empire. And of Course to find out what steller leaders are in this game!

First thing is we moved the Scout NENE

Cows but not in the BFC

In a rare RPC moment for myself, we move the settler one spot east.

Rice, cows, floodplains, gold. What more could a REXing lady want to start off.

Cathy meets the first leader and is not impressed. In fatc she's repulsed.

Still, a man is a man. Er, he is a man right???

Ah, now that's a man!!!

Maybe no greek god, but he has that, REGAL look!

So out tech path went: Agriculture/AH/archery (sorry, I don't trust SURY)/BW/wheel/pottery/IW

Build order for Moscow went: worker/warrior/warrior/archer/settler/archer/archer/settler/worker/archer/settler

AFTER AH Lo' and behold

Horses a good long way off. With ALOT of jungle in teh way.

We then met another AI

Ugh!!!!!!! Cathy immediately decided to play match-maker. Victoria can have the freeak, she will take the rish king!

After BW

Yeah, doing real well on military resources. The main reason we qued up IW early although those jungles help alot.

We dropped St. Petersburg right on the river and Novrogad up ner the horses. The horses look to be a culture battle with Vicky, let's see what Cathy can do there!!!

A fuller shot of our three cities and showing IRON

By a little past 2000 BC we have three cities and a fourth settler ready to go! The idea is to build a wall of cities blocking out the AI!

A good idea since to the north

All teh Ais look pretty darned crowded and Chralie boy with his imperialistic trait blocking out Sury. THAT should be very interesting.

And at the save a view of Moscow

Farmed floodplains for now. Cottages on order.

So there we have it. THe next settler goes on the west coast to claim fish/cows/jumbos. Unfortunately Charlemagne slipped a city between the mountains claiming dye and bananas. We can deal with that.

So off to the REXing races!!!.

I need a fast military production city while Moscow pumps out settlers!!! There is ALOT of good land out there. No wasted hammers on wonders. Settlers/military/libraries!!!!

 

[CivCorpse]

Shoot for Music and build the Sistine Chapel....flip the little rodent's city

 

[NintendoTogepi]

REX REX REX!

Kind of funny that in the first game you are given an isolated start, and for the replay you get 3 of the most REXing leaders

How about you plant a city between Charlemagne and Sury, taking those cows and iron?

Spoiler :

There's tons of REXing opprunites to the east of Victoria. It's amazing.

You should try and take the whole continent eventually by a combination of REX and warfare. Maybe let Charlemagne live with one city so Catherine can continue to...see him.

 

[Johan^^]

settle the cow, elephant clam fish city and then try to expand to the north east at the gold ... need more scouting here.

btw the barbs settled south of the capital.

 

[NcNikke]

You should try and take the whole continent eventually by a combination of REX and warfare. Maybe let Charlemagne live with one city so Catherine can continue to...see him.

The rules state that Cathy can't declare war. Maybe if we could piss everybody off and then take their land when they declare on us

 

[Killroyan]

Get the settler pump going. I am counting a lot and I do mean a lot of great city sites. Maybe even go for henge just to get some extra culture going and flip the damn city of victoria. How dare she try to take the horses of Catherina!!!

 

[madscientist]

REX REX REX!

Kind of funny that in the first game you are given an isolated start, and for the replay you get 3 of the most REXing leaders

How about you plant a city between Charlemagne and Sury, taking those cows and iron?

Spoiler :

There's tons of REXing opprunites to the east of Victoria. It's amazing.

You should try and take the whole continent eventually by a combination of REX and warfare. Maybe let Charlemagne live with one city so Catherine can continue to...see him.

At least Zara is not here!

I forsee Charlemagne as our future friend. Easy to get along with as long as I wait to adopt his religion, plus we can pressure him with massive culture. Also I expect him to be crowding Sury pretty fast. The only question is whether Sury overruns him which could be an issue.

 

[madscientist]

settle the cow, elephant clam fish city and then try to expand to the north east at the gold ... need more scouting here.

btw the barbs settled south of the capital.

BArbs, Smarbs. We got iron, just one less settler to build.

 

[madscientist]

Get the settler pump going. I am counting a lot and I do mean a lot of great city sites. Maybe even go for henge just to get some extra culture going and flip the damn city of victoria. How dare she try to take the horses of Catherina!!!

I think REXing with a cultural leader means few or no wonders. What we need is a beeline for Aethetics and drama for those cheap early theaters which would also get us an extra happiness from the dye resource.

We are set up for some massive vertical and horizontal expansion, and Cathy like to do it horizontally and vertically. Er, REXing I mean

 

[Diamondeye]

Hmm. 2 comments apart from nicely played and sad neighboors:
1) I wouldve settled 1N, considering the bonus of being able to place the next city eastward, on the river.
2) MINE THAT IRON.

 

[madscientist]

Hmm. 2 comments apart from nicely played and sad neighboors:
1) I wouldve settled 1N, considering the bonus of being able to place the next city eastward, on the river.

I think you are right about settling north, but St. Petersburg still ended up on the river and we can not easily fit in a coastal city due West. Still if I did it again I would settle north like you suggest

2) MINE THAT IRON.

Currently underway! We teched off IW just before the save!!

 

[madscientist]

REX Queen Cathy: Part II

OK, we played until the late BCs and stopped. Lot's of Rexing, cutting off the AI. And a war we were not involved in. we have 9 cities now and Cathy is NOT finished, plenty of Cathy, I mean REXing to go arround!

Tecpath went: writing/fishing/masonry/math/currency/calander and we begged Meditation and polytheism off of Vicky and Charles (and who can resist Cathy's charms!!!). We teched off priesthood and saved.

First we got a random event

sending food and gold to Vicky for +3 diplo. sounds good to me!

Our next settler went west to lockup the elephants since the horses are in question until we can press our culture borders more.

Next city went coastal again, claiming cows and rice for food!

We limitedly built military, focusing on libraries/graneries and of course settlers.

We explored the eastern part of the continent and looks pretty nice to settle over there.

At this point Charles and Vicky are Hindu while Sury is Judaist. so we adopted Hinduism, playing our diplomacy to use Vicky and Charles as human shields against Sury.

Netx city is not ideal but is agressively placed to try and fend Vicky off that area for awhile.

And to foul things up, Charles slipped a city behind us

Our own fault for not forming a complete block there. Well, let Charlemagne chop out all of that jungle.

OK, dropping another city in that NE area

The we amassed asmall army to take that Barb city at which point

Yep, we REXed ourselves into a strike while teching currency. We lost a few units and had to suspend the BARB assault. Cathy held up a little in REXing, catch her breath, if you know what I mean!

Victoria then declares war on Sury.

We manage to stay out of it (well RPC rules state we can only fight if attacked.).

Victoria finally techs alphabet which we use for a trade.

Established coastal and river trade routes. I wish I had went after sailing before currency but oh well.

Then

GOOD! Both DoWed on Sury wrecking teh diplo situation. Also Sury is already falling behind in tech. Soon enough we shall be able to defend ourselves with tech superiority.

We teched off currency and spread it arround

Last tech needed to right the economy, calender for commerce and happiness!!!

Our first GP was a GS which we used for an academy in Moscow. We also started building a market in moscow, figuing we can right the economy in the core cities with markets while building courthouses on the outer cities.

We reinitiate the attack on teh Barb city.

Claiming another city to our empire!!!!

We saved at this point, calling it a night.

Our cities so far.

Our available techs

The view of Mother Russia.

Expansion opprtunities to the east.

And teh south

OK, so I say we tech monarchy and then Fuedalsim to get some fast longbows up and going. Then Aesthetics/Drama/Music and see if we can PUSH Vicky righ off those horses!!!

A culture Bomb in Navrogad could really press Chalemagne's and Victoria's cities!!!

 

[CivCorpse]

I would go for Music first.Then drama. Secure the free GA and start the sistine chapel.
And if you don't want more HRE and English cities in your backyard. You might consider closing your borders.

 

[NintendoTogepi]

Close borders with Victoria and Charlemagne. REX REX REX to the northeast!

I would personally start being a $^@#* to Sury in hope he'll DoW on you. Or maybe Victoria, she has good land.

Leave Charlemagne alone, he's a good friend.

 

[Al-Iskander]

So, that city due east of Nottingham, the one which I believe you said is not ideally placed, is called Yekaterinburg.

If you already know this, apologies for my being a smarty-pants, but Yekaterina is the Russian version of "Catherine," making Yekaterinburg quite seriously "Catherine's City."

If I may humbly propose a bit of Role-Playing, I would suggest giving that city as much undeserved attention as you can afford. Perhaps giving it a wildly impractical (for it's location) national wonder, or more cultural buildings than it needs. Certain of Russia's great (politically, if not personally) leaders have had a tendency to lavish attention on cities that had their names, including the other two Russian leaders included in Civ4. I know the city was named after Catherine I, and not Catherine (II) the Great who you're playing now, and that the latter's namesake-city was Yekaterinoslav (today's Dnepropetrovsk), but I think it could be still fun

Of course, it also must never be conquered by anyone for whatever reason.

Regarding strategy, of course Novgorod is the logical choice for that culturebomb, but for role-play, I think Yekaterinurg might be neat.

Anyway, I realize it's a bit late to be making rule amendments, and that my reasoning isn't the greatest because the city was really named after another Catherine, but I just thought I'd toss in my 2c.

 

[vicawoo]

Time for my fashionable backseat civing:

I would have settled north for the flood plains and hills, but then yours might be better.

I wouldn't have teched farming so early, animal husbandry and flood plains should be enough food. Non-irrigated rice only gives one more, flood plains take awhile to improve.

Barbarian city, you could have blown it up and settled 1E for the fish. I think the extra efficiency is worth losing the pop and a reduced cost settler.

 

[Diamondeye]

Can I ask why yoy placed Yekatarinenburg like that? 1SW would have made it better. 1 SE would have made it better, 1NE would have made it better. It is a poor city, but the area has lots of potential on all cities...!

 

[madscientist]

Yekaterinebrug (yes, I like the idea of bestowing it with massive culture, just to harrass Victoria) was settled because there was already Englishculture taking some of the floodplains. As far as closing borders, I think Cathy is just too happy already having contact with the all teh AIs (isn't that an RPC rule, open borders for "friendly" relations!)

 

[madscientist]

REX Queen Cathy: PArt III

Well, another great round peaceful expansion while the others fight amongst themselves for a while. Some interesting developements and we shall see how this game plays out.

To start with, the techpath: construction/HBR (for war elephants)/Monarchy/Aesthetics/Lit/drama/Fuedalism and start machinery. we delayed music as we could not be first to it plus I am not willing to culturally harass Victoria and Charlemagne, for ereasons we shall see.

Very soon war breaks out

Which causes Victoria to lose London and Charlemagne to lose Prague. Good for Sury, not good for us considering he's furious at us.

We expand to the east

we also popped a second GS which we saved, thinking of potentially bulbing education.

We then changed civics

And our expansion south.

we dropped several more coastal cities too.

Then we got this

Which resulted in

Easy enough to recapture and kill the barbs but sets us back for a little bit.

And the financial advisor showing how well we crashed teh economy yet again

REXing indeed!

We make a trade for needed cash

we also build courthouses and markets to stabilkize and rebuild the economy while running mostly merchant specialists.

We then got a very interesting proposal

Since we are on the verge of longbows and Sury is not, Cathy was delighte to accept Charlemagne as a cringing vassal. Perhaps this can break open things!!!

We made some trades boltering Charles and Victoris defensive abilities and moving us along.

We then build

Our first and only wonder. We adopt Bureacracy to speed up the NE in Moscow hoping for another GS to beeling towards liberalism. Charles and Vicky are slowing down techwise while we increase as we continue to hike up the slider, leveraging out massive number of cities from REXing.

We saved here

Our southern portion

The north showing Sury's lands.

Techs

I am not concerned, we shall catchup.

And the financial advisor, note we have increased our beaker output since the last financial advisor

So where to now???

I say machinery, then the liberalism techs! Save teh GS to bulb education, and potentially more.

We are mass producing longbows for defense, Victoria's horses are getting closer to culture switching to us, and we have war elephants to counter the Khmer UU. NOw if we also have war elephants, when Sury attacks our stacks the UU will always attack my war elephants (mounted units) protecting well prmoted melee units.

But I have a counter proposal

Adopting Judaism AND the OR civic to get friendly with Sury and antagonizing Charles and Victoira against us. Could make some interesting times and potentially allow us to conquer the continent (AND REX SOME MORE!!!!).

What do you all say!

 

[NintendoTogepi]

Whoa at Sury. I did NOT expect him to do so good. I thought he would stay blocked in, and now he has the second largest empire and the first two English cities!

Get ready for a Sury DoW, it's only a matter of time.

Also, let's say Sury takes Victoria as a vassal, then DoW's on you. Must Victoria be completely wiped out or not?

Try and spread all of the religions to your cities, set up a "Missionary city". That way once Free Religion comes around you can get tons of