RFC Europe playtesting feedback thread

i played a german game and wow. that was great fun. between how fun the german and burgundian set of uhvs are, it really only emphasizes how lacking the french game is, with its hodgepodge of frank and french.

i know its been discussed before but splitting the franks and french really would take the mod to another level
 
gilgames said:
true, i am in an emperor german game and its awesome....but where are everybody????no new posts weeks ago :(
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ive been playing. i forget which games ive already talked about but i gave france another go. the thing that i like the least is that the best way to win is very unhistorical.

hang on to italy, dont bother taking western france. stay at ten cities and tech till you can build the spanish colonies.

definitely needs three goals. one which makes you control metropolitan france. that is, finish burgundy and take the british areas from them, etc.

one that is either culture or wonders in paris

and one that somehow requires them to build proper colonies.
1. require them specifically.
2. some sort of continent grouping
3. require them to build so many colonies in a given time period. say, after 1650. whatever so that the spanish/portuugues will build the caribbean/conquests, and the only ones left to build are africa/north america
 
@archcapitalist: it has been argued that the italian cities should flip to burgundy, but if the French civ is indeed changed into the Franks and the French, this will also be changed.
(besides wouldn't it be good to take bordeaux + 1 city north of it? the area is nice, even if bordeaux hardly produces any hammers...I think it was said you can go up to 14 cities before the penalties really start kicking in)

@ mods:

is it possible that all mercs currently get the "Medic3"-promotion for some reason? I think this should be changed ;)
 
@Sanjose: I don't see a ruin there from the start...

what version are you running (SVN or the regular download) and what date do you mean by "start"? 500AD? Start of your civ? A screenshot would be helpful :)

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what happpens when Spain & Germany win on the same turn?

In my game this could happen (if I didn't prevent Spain and everyone else from getting colonies) and their 3rd UHV fall on the same turn. So who would win?
 
Chep said:
@archcapitalist: it has been argued that the italian cities should flip to burgundy, but if the French civ is indeed changed into the Franks and the French, this will also be changed.
(besides wouldn't it be good to take bordeaux + 1 city north of it? the area is nice, even if bordeaux hardly produces any hammers...I think it was said you can go up to 14 cities before the penalties really start kicking in)
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yeah, im just spitballing what france should eventually be. the three goals kinda formed in my mind as i was playing through.

i didnt mean bordeaux. i do take that one. i mean the area or brittany/normandy that is really better left unsettled until the english take it.

i thought they started at 11 and got progressively worse. such that i would take afew more if they were good cities. the northwest cities didnt seem worth it.
 
Chep said:
what version are you running (SVN or the regular download) and what date do you mean by "start"? 500AD? Start of your civ? A screenshot would be helpful :)
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Last SVN, 500AD, my guess - it's ruins of Ohrid after earthquake
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ah true, completely forgot about these. maybe one of the modders can tell you why it's there :)

@archcapitalist: yeah, Normandy and Bretagne should be better left unsettled at the moment. (I usually found one city south of the Bretagne on the river which eventually covers most of that region via its culture)

in my current German game I have 14 cities and I think that I often went as high as ~17 with Spain (Emperor), you certainly have some increase in tech cost but at the same time you usually get more resources, more research and more production due to the additional cities.
I just love how around 1500-1550 my capitol produces >400 gold + >250 research per turn even after being reduced to size 12 by the plague :D
 
Chep said:
ah true, completely forgot about these. maybe one of the modders can tell you why it's there :)

@archcapitalist: yeah, Normandy and Bretagne should be better left unsettled at the moment. (I usually found one city south of the Bretagne on the river which eventually covers most of that region via its culture)

in my current German game I have 14 cities and I think that I often went as high as ~17 with Spain (Emperor), you certainly have some increase in tech cost but at the same time you usually get more resources, more research and more production due to the additional cities.
I just love how around 1500-1550 my capitol produces >400 gold + >250 research per turn even after being reduced to size 12 by the plague :D
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yeah i definitely had that many in my spain game, and the effects werent too adverse. dont remember exactly but i had one in each of the required territories plus all of the cordovan cities. as germany i was powering through with a ton of cities. and still ripping through techs. the core cities are just so good.
 
i got further in my german game, its now 1520+ and i am finished all the uhvs. so now almost just end turns.... :/
after protestantism was done, i could cach up in techs too. i am the most powerfull around, after france was beaten too (he came for me with 30 lvl2 knights, while i had 10-15 scattered around) and everybody dow-ed me regulary :( it was annoying....

give me tips what to do now?

heres the save game:

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ps: merc's medic 3 is lol...

@chep, thank mon, wesnoth is great, love it, but didnt know it before...
 
you were behind in tech? :D

(I was lucky to get the Vikings as my vasall after taking the city in Holstein, and their research speed was about two thirds of mine up untill ~1200 AD, so they researched all non-essential techs for me and I bought them from them :D)

after 1500, you usually get at least one big war with Spain (at least in my games they're often the number 2) which can be tough if they come at you with ~30 knights + 20 other units and their vasalls :D

anyway, my goal around that time is to get more colonies than anyone else. but you could also go for more conquest.
(my stability was too low after razing a total of 6-7 cities in my game and owning Genoa, Venice and all of the UHV-territories)

or you just go for another try at the Kievan Challenge :D
 
hey there,

I started this thread to collect all the Challenges we have, and I'd like some input from you (and also that you try to beat them, if you haven't already).
Have you got any other ideas?

I'd like to (at least for the moment) keep it based on the UHVs/the civs historical situation so no "fastest domination/conquest"-challenges, at least for now.
What do you think of a "try to convert as much of Europe to Islam before winning via UHV as Arabia"?
(I'm curious as to how much is possible: 40%? 45%? 50%?)

Any further ideas? Or comments?
 
well this spain should be war was with france....and i pwnd them :D
i never knew how to business with vassals, they never want to trade techs with me in 1 by 1 cost. plus on emperor its usually 1 by 2. so i dont trade.
i wont try colonize, its boring, i hate ships :D
 
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