Wessel V1
Emperor
Ya I have had that problem, where either Rome stops being the holy city of Christianity, or Damascus stops being the holy city of Islam. (PS. I think it would be better to have The Grand Ummayad Mosque as the Islamic Holy building, rather than the Ka'aba spawning their).
Ok so, to back up my claim, about the UP problem, I noticed that:
a. Hungary still has the "power of tolerance" (but that's going to be changed right?)
Unfortunately we cannot release a new beta every time a new consensus is reached.
b. Poland has the UP of "Golden Liberty", I mean isn't that enough? They already get a whooping 10% research boom (which I think is just wrong, I can't think of many Polish inventions, Copernicus an exception), not to mention they have +1 happiness (spelt wrong in game). So why can't they stick with that, I think thats a more appropriate name for their UP, isn't that good enough?
I would instead make the Polish UP something like this:
UP of Golden Liberty:
+1 happiness and greater stability per city
Notes:
That way, Poland, which should last quite long, can get a stability boost, and get a happiness boost at the same time. And you should remove the 10% research boost, because Poland was never a scientific powerhouse, as much as Cordoba was during its high point, or even I could imagine, France or England being.
The 10% research is already fake, because research modifiers are in the Constants python file. I believe that base happiness and health is different for each civ too (in RFC it is), so the UP is a placeholder for a better one. Tolerance is for gameplay perhaps better suiting Hungary, because Hungary is the only civ with all religions usually. I won't restart this argument though.
c. The Cordoban UP SUCKS, so why not just give them the UP of Religious Tolerance, and you guys said the way I put it was too "powerful", so why not do this:
UP of Religious Tolerance:
+5 research points and +1 Happiness per non-state religion
Notes:
I think this UP is better balanced en par with the rest of the other civ UP's
I think nobody said it was overpowered, it just did not suit the Cordobans well enough. The point was, that there doesn't HAVE to be a power of Religious Tolerance. If it doesn't suit anybody well enough, it should be left out and not given to the civ that was the most tolerant, of all intolerant civs. In a land full of blind men, the man with one eye shall be king, or whatever the saying is in English. In this context, that mean we should move to a republic.
Other Notes:
1. Cordoba should spawn in 711 AD, rather than 712 (not a big problem, but for the sake of historical accuracy)
Obviously not possible. The calendar passes 4 years each turn, and 711 cannot be divided by 4.
2. The Cordoban UB, the Noria, is exactly the same as the Polish Folwark. I would give for one of them, instead of storing 25% of food after growth, why not give the city that makes it +2 food. Doesn't that sound much better
I think that the storing capacity is more useful than +2 food, however it is a good idea to have +2 additional food, because Cordoban lands aren't such great food producers. This way we can remove some resources too, because Iberia has way too many currently.
3. The Bulgarians are REALLY overpowered, the Byzantines should be able to check them in place, (and vassalize them even), just like they did in actual history, but I think you guys are working on weakening them, right? Because more power needs to go to Austria and Hungary, so that the Ottomans don't go on a bloody rampage into Europe, so quickly.
I can't give my opinion on this one, but when I play Byzantium, it is not so hard for me to crush them.
4. The Temple Mount wonder is a bit silly. No civilization ever converts to Judaism, and the Temple Mount, is a special quarter inside of Jerusalem. So unless it can only be built in Jerusalem, I think its quite silly to have others be able to build it. So why not instead of a type of "Jewish Community Building", (make it a national wonder as well) it could do something like this:
+2 unhappiness, but 5% research (is that small enough)
Plus you could keep the same textures
Although the "benefits" it gives are weak, the idea is good in general.
5. Research NEEDS to be slower, the game progresses too too fast, therefore each tech needs to be worth more research points, to slow EVERYONE down.
I agree.
6. The special ability for Westiminister Abby, is kind of ridiculous, why does it enable ALL labour civics? Instead of enabling all labour civics, it should give +1 happiness per city, to represent the final resting place of most of the Monarchs in that civilization.
In Civ 4 such a wonder exists too, it is called the Pyramids. I think that would not make any sense, because who would ever build a pyramid when he has a right to vote not to do so? However, it is good to have a wonder that has something like this.
7. Although I know that the Mongols do a good job at hurting Russia and the Middle East (although I think there should be more Keshiks), there should be keshik's spawning near the Poland/Hungarian border, because as we all know they were able to rout and destroy the Polish army. But since they never fully took control of Poland/Hungary, there probably should be less of them spawning there, but I think they should definitely be affected by the Keshik Horde
I somewhat agree, but if the Mongols would not have taken Kiev out, they would have never reached Poland. This is reflected well enough now, since generally there are some Mongols left, and these will go after the next target.