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RFC South and South East Asia

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall Modmods' started by Civciv5, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    Why does your mod is "not able" to include them?
    Kfufu was a great Egyptian pharaoh.Maybe Seondeok is too close with Wang Kon at time dates.
    Same for Samaratungga,but he was the greatest leader of Srivijaya,not Dharmasetu.
    Setthathirat can't be used because there is no Laos.
    And Le Thanh Tong not,because there is no Vietnam.
    Are they less known subjects?
    They are just as famous as the avarage leaderhead.
    And see this LH?
    It was rated within two days,because SiabotLieh has many "followers" and I haven't one.
    I downloaded your mod "Dawn of Civilization".
    It's awesome!:goodjob:
    But why do you keep using this terrible LH,when you can use this far better LH or this one.
    Unless you're a more for Amra and not Seasnake or cybrxkhan.
    I don't know why but I don't like that LH,the background is unpleasant and the LH is weird looking.
    But I changed switched LH's in the game wich I prefer.
    Maybe I should try uploading my mod somewhere,so people can "look" and "help".
     
  2. spaceman98

    spaceman98 Plotting something

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    Never mind
     
  3. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    What "never mind"?
    Not never mind.
     
  4. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Thanks.

    I have two Egyptian rulers for the BC period, and would like each to represent distinct eras (Ramesses for the Old to New Kingdom and Cleopatra for Ptolemaic Egypt). Another leader would lead to changes that are too fast and you won't be able to see either often. I also needed the "slots" for later leaders representing medieval and modern Egypt.

    That's debatable.

    Basically yes. See, if someone makes a LH of a well known European leader people can associate more with them than with Asian ones, simply because of their knowledge.

    Yes, and he gathered it by a long time of work and convincing people by its quality alone, not forcing them to follow him.

    I'm aware of both of these, but my current one comes closest to how I picture Naresuan.

    This is where you're missing the point.
     
  5. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    Dharmasetu was not a conqueror nor a great builder.
    Samaratungga was a conquered and a great builder,he built Borobudur.
    Maybe I can try making some "Naresuan" leaderhead?
    Or maybe I should delete all my files and quit the modding community?
    As my files will probably never be rated and I can't rate them myself.
     
  6. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Let's get that straight: you started modding to get someone's ratings?
     
  7. Linkman226

    Linkman226 #anarchy

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    Lost cause is lost. But I'll give it one last shot:

    You enter modding because you want to mod, i.e., you want to make changes to the game that you enjoy. It is ultimately for your edification, and secondarily it can become the pleasure of others as well. But you make a mod because you would like to play that mod, NOT because you want to gain fame, prestige, and ratings.
     
  8. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    I just don't want to wait a year until they are rated.
    Nobody appreciates my work.
     
  9. Tigranes

    Tigranes Armenian

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    I have an urge to ask you -- how old are you? :D All your files are rated now. A+ is what you get. I like your work, I like Belgium, I like Belgian chocolate.

     
  10. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    Thanks for rating my files,but are they really 5 stars?
    Sorry,but I don't want to tell my age.
     
  11. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Does it matter? You only wanted your files rated, never said how high :p
     
  12. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    No,I'm happy that they are rated.
    I'm continuing adding civilizations,wonders...
     
  13. Linkman226

    Linkman226 #anarchy

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    So I just looked up your download counts:

    78
    38
    46
    13
    11
    11
    20

    217 in total. Not shabby. Not shabby at all.

    So I don't see what the complaints are all about. Never mind the rating, the download count speaks for itself.

    And honestly, I would be as satisfied with 0 downloads as 300,000 if I knew that I had made something of good quality. Unless you're somehow insecure about the quality of your work (you shouldn't be, it's quite good) I don't see what's the point of this ratings-mongering.
     
  14. spaceman98

    spaceman98 Plotting something

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    Downloads are a far more important than ratings and far more meaningful.
     
  15. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    I think that The_J will close this thread because I use "illegal music",if that happens everything is lost.
    I know there are many people who use "illegal music".
     
  16. Tigranes

    Tigranes Armenian

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    Don't trouble the trouble, until the trouble troubles you :D No modder is expecting to contact composers. Also, do you know how to replay on your private messages?
     
  17. BenZL43

    BenZL43 awkward cat

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    Uh...
    Tell me how could you conclude Samaratungga is the greatest ruler of Sriwijaya? --"

    Eventhough Samaratungga is the one who built Borobudur and Prambanan (together with Rakai Pikatan), there is no good source than imply he is actually a ruler. Even if he was a real king, under his reign, Jayavarman the governor at Khmer, break free and form the Khmer Empire.

    Jayavarman can't form Khmer Empire if Samaratungga is powerful and his empire is stable.

    Historian still trying to identify him with Rakryan i Garung, which is a Medang 5th ruler.

    However, the ongoing debate seems to favor his son, Balaputradewa (who bring Srivijaya to her golden age), or to Dharmasetu (who incorporated many teritorries from Ishtmus of Kra and glorify it; yet Dharmasetu's parent is from Srivijaya and from Sunda. He then control Kra, Sumatra, Sunda and Java).

    And actually, Dharmasetu is Balaputradwa's grandfather. All three generation of Dharmasetu, Samaratungga and Balaputradewa is the most time where Srivijaya proper together with Syailendras.

    Samaratungga can be considered Srivijaya because he also rule Sumatra based on his marriage with Dewi Tara (Srivijayan princess) that born Balaputradewa..
    but culturally and hereditary, Samartungga is more to Mataram Kuno (eng : Medang) (Java) than to Srivijaya (Sumatra).
     
  18. BenZL43

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    My thought on Ramkhamhaeng.

    I'm Southeast Asian myself, and some of my relatives are Thais.
    None beside the one Leo use is really close to what I've seen the real-life Thais are, especially the latter one.

    Uh. my English is really bad right now, sorry.
     
  19. Civciv5

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    Yes,but he was the ruler of Srivijaya and reigned over the empire at its zenith.
    He conquered parts of Thailand and Cambodia.
    I will not change the leader and I will use Sri Sanjaya as ruluer of the Kingdom of Medang.
    And I already planned to use the Dharmasetu LH as Sanjaya,ruler of Medang.
    Because there simply aren't enough leaderheads available and I'm making LH's special for this mod.
    Please do not tell that you want that I use Amra's terrible LH of "Ramkhamhaeng".
    I will not use that LH in any of my mods,never.
    In that case the answer is no.
    And I already added Ramkhamhaeng with seasnake's one.
     
  20. BenZL43

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    Samaratungga is Javanese.
    He is a Medang king who coincidentally also ruled Srivijaya because of marriage!
    And Srivijaya get into his Zenith because of Dharmasetu. Samaratungga isn't the one who conquer Southern Thailand (Langkasuka, Trambalinga, Pan Pan) or Khmer, but Dharmasetu did! Samaratungga even is the one that let Khmer go.

    And I never say I recommend Ramkamhaeng for your mod.
    I am trying to help Leo stand his ground ON your accusation.

    Pretty fed up now. --"
     

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