@Eduhum: I'll do want I can. @AOS9001: I am letting stability finish her, so that my stability doesn't suffer too much. Spain can be tricky, but bringing your biggest guns (vet. camel archers) usually gets it done. @Kullervo: Don't forget that my UP gives me Islamic temple and cathedral in every city, so building Madrassa in every city makes each of them produce 9 culture. I doubt that even Paris can beat that. @MrBanana: Do mean the shrine goal? I think you have build the shrines too..