Sh3kel said:
The B-52 is currently an American UU.
I need something else. A Russian bomber would be ok, I'll seek for it.
BTW, do you know what plane the "heavy bomber" of the WWII conquests represents?
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The B-52 is currently an American UU.
I need something else. A Russian bomber would be ok, I'll seek for it.
BTW, do you know what plane the "heavy bomber" of the WWII conquests represents?
uuuhh.....found the tu-95 bear by wyrmshadow.
this is perfect.
Many thanks sh3kel!
this is perfect.
Many thanks sh3kel!
Blasphemous
Graulich
Hmmm... The B-52 can get the stats of the later bomber and come in a bit later than the regular bomber, but replace both bombers. That would be realistic and cool and useful.
the b-52 now replaces the heavy bomber instead of the bomber.
Blasphemous
Graulich
So make it come in earlier than the normal heavy bomber to represent that it's the longest-serving aircraft in the world.
no, there's no room for what you say. WWII bombers are in the previous tech and replacing it would be inaccurate
Rhye,
I think I saw some correct that C-130 as a bomber. It's a cargoplane that sometimes used as gunship I think.
Would it be too much to ask if I could see these upgrades and the tech tree for modern times.
You still thinks that every new unit needs a tech. That should be the case.
Did I see correct a Zeppelin for a german bomber to compare with a american B-17. Poor germans. They did use He-111 mostly during WW2.
Does this mean you got WW1 bombers mixed into WW2 and then have Heavy bombers ???
I need to get my head set right on this.
If you need bombers to match B-52 for other countries I'm sure I can find some good ones for you and the reason for it.
I do believe you have biplane from WW1 then WW2 planes finishing with a jetfighter. Is that correct ?? Well remember the WW1 planes didn't do much more than fly around and had a circus like von Richthofen. Not much more than recon actually and the fine little dogfights.
Modern jets like British Tornado, Jaguars, US F-15 Strike Eagles, Russians Mig-29, Su-27 are some pretty heavy killers as multi-role strike aircrafts.
They are a world of difference from WW2 heaviest bombers.
I would love to see that tree and I will find place for them on my own to be sure.
Haven't you seen that file stating how simple it is to select naval aircrafts from landbased ones. That is something you got to fix. No one like to see a B-52 or Stealth land on a carrier. That's one of the wackiest thing in Civ3.
You had a link to it somewhere in this thread, and I can assure even the AI figures this out.
If you like both me and probably several others can pop up with what aircrafts goes where, both in WW2 era and modern era. Still no need to create new Tech and in this case I consider it a major boost to the MOD.
Any one second this ????
Cemo
I think I saw some correct that C-130 as a bomber. It's a cargoplane that sometimes used as gunship I think.
Would it be too much to ask if I could see these upgrades and the tech tree for modern times.
You still thinks that every new unit needs a tech. That should be the case.
Did I see correct a Zeppelin for a german bomber to compare with a american B-17. Poor germans. They did use He-111 mostly during WW2.
Does this mean you got WW1 bombers mixed into WW2 and then have Heavy bombers ???
I need to get my head set right on this.
If you need bombers to match B-52 for other countries I'm sure I can find some good ones for you and the reason for it.
I do believe you have biplane from WW1 then WW2 planes finishing with a jetfighter. Is that correct ?? Well remember the WW1 planes didn't do much more than fly around and had a circus like von Richthofen. Not much more than recon actually and the fine little dogfights.
Modern jets like British Tornado, Jaguars, US F-15 Strike Eagles, Russians Mig-29, Su-27 are some pretty heavy killers as multi-role strike aircrafts.
They are a world of difference from WW2 heaviest bombers.
I would love to see that tree and I will find place for them on my own to be sure.
Haven't you seen that file stating how simple it is to select naval aircrafts from landbased ones. That is something you got to fix. No one like to see a B-52 or Stealth land on a carrier. That's one of the wackiest thing in Civ3.
You had a link to it somewhere in this thread, and I can assure even the AI figures this out.
If you like both me and probably several others can pop up with what aircrafts goes where, both in WW2 era and modern era. Still no need to create new Tech and in this case I consider it a major boost to the MOD.
Any one second this ????
Cemo
For the second game straight, I have managed to build a city in North America by 1100 AD. I think the tech rate needs a slight adjustment.
I'm dominating this game. Invading China will be a breeze.
Although they're far away, the biggest threat to my dominance is France. They have conquered pieces of Portugal, Germany, and Russia(!). It's the most dominant I've ever seen an AI in RoX.
I think without a doubt that France is at least a little bit overpowered. My toughest competition is France every single game. It could be that the AI just handles them best.
I'm dominating this game. Invading China will be a breeze.
Although they're far away, the biggest threat to my dominance is France. They have conquered pieces of Portugal, Germany, and Russia(!). It's the most dominant I've ever seen an AI in RoX.
I think without a doubt that France is at least a little bit overpowered. My toughest competition is France every single game. It could be that the AI just handles them best.
cemo1956 said:
Isn't the tu-95 good? It is the perfect heavy bomber.
cemo1956 said:
It is:
INDUSTRIAL
Biplane->
Zeppelins (Germans only)->
(I chose to let some UU come earlier or later)
MODERN
->Fighter->Jet Fighter->Stealth Fighter
->Bomber(except Germany)->Heavy Bomber->Stealth Bomber
Now there is a plane for each sub-era.
I will not add any other industrial/modern unit.
cemo1956 said:
A link in this thread? There was a link to a table that explained how to make certain ships carry cruise missiles.
The only way I know is uncheck the load flag or the re-base flag.
I will uncheck the load flag to all the bombers.
Jaguar said:
Strange about France, I haven't seen them too powerful. I've seen Germany conquering Russia and Russia conquering Germany, but nothing about France.
What's wrong isn't the tech rate. It's the fact that caravels come too early. Or magnetism comes too early.
Something will change.
Blasphemous
Graulich
Just finished my first session as the Vikings.
First of all, it seems the new naval movement setup grossly underpowers the Seafaring trait.
I had two ideas for balancing this:
-Tagging Courthouse as Seafaring, so seafaring civs can build courthouses quicker and thus be much better colonists.
-Giving seafaring civs a special Curragh replacement that has a trans capacity of 1, allowing them to colonize nearby very early and to wage war over seas very early - though both not very effectively.
Basically the first idea powers them up in the later bit of the game when the movement bonus is useless, and the second idea powers them up early in the game where their bonus is currently retained.
I also have a tiny suggestion: instead of saying in the Longship pedia entry that it ignores sea movement costs, it would be better to simply say that it moves through sea as quickly as it does through the coast - though it can sink if it ends a turn in the sea.
First of all, it seems the new naval movement setup grossly underpowers the Seafaring trait.
I had two ideas for balancing this:
-Tagging Courthouse as Seafaring, so seafaring civs can build courthouses quicker and thus be much better colonists.
-Giving seafaring civs a special Curragh replacement that has a trans capacity of 1, allowing them to colonize nearby very early and to wage war over seas very early - though both not very effectively.
Basically the first idea powers them up in the later bit of the game when the movement bonus is useless, and the second idea powers them up early in the game where their bonus is currently retained.
I also have a tiny suggestion: instead of saying in the Longship pedia entry that it ignores sea movement costs, it would be better to simply say that it moves through sea as quickly as it does through the coast - though it can sink if it ends a turn in the sea.
Blasphemous
Graulich
France are also very powerful in my game. They were also powerful in other games (though not the Germany one - there they never developed because of eternal war with the Netherlands, till I took them both in and helped them develop. 
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Blasphemous said:
What does it happen if I tag a trait?
Gunner
Emperor
In my most recent 2.62 game as America France only built one European city and was way behind in every aspect at around 1880.
Also, I have noticed that Austria always seems to be way behind in techs.
Also, I have noticed that Austria always seems to be way behind in techs.
In contrast, in my game, the French have now destroyed the Russians. Their empire stretches from northern Spain to the Caucasus Mountains, including Berlin, Vienna, and Moscow.
Astronomy and Magnetism both seem to allow safe Ocean travel. This is redundant because Magnetism is required for Astronomy.
Astronomy and Magnetism both seem to allow safe Ocean travel. This is redundant because Magnetism is required for Astronomy.
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I might... if I knew what you were saying ;p
Could you please be a bit clearer with your request? I do the same thing haha
I agree that there are too many modern/industrial units; I barely see them, since I finish/end games at the start of the period (usually just end because an update has arrived haha)!
However, I still think some of the UUs need a looking at, even if you are dead set against it Rhye. The Mobile Tower just seems goofy, and the axe man is even worse!
I liked the original idea of the mobile tower; using it as an early game land transport was cool and creative. However, the AI was too stupid to utilize it (who COULD have guessed haha) and it is now an ananchronism. Persian heavy cavalry was remarked upon, as were Parthian horse archers. Even better would be a fanatic unit for the modern era, symbolizing the Iranian overthrow of the Shah back in the day. Giving the Immortals defensive bombard would also be cool, considering that many of the members of the Persian army carried bows.
The mobile tower, on the other hand, was a siege weapon utilized by the Hittites and Assyrians... not a Persian toy.
The Axe man. It just screams filler. Egypt was renowned for many things, such as its amazing irrigation system, its Pyramids, its Sphinx, its chariots. But not men with big axes and a lot of unresolved issues. Thats the Vikings ;p Sadly, I am too stupid to think of something better than zombie mummies right now haha
IDEA: create civ specific workers IE: the Russians would have cheap, slow workers, the Germans would have expensive, fast ones... you get the idea. How about it?
Could you please be a bit clearer with your request? I do the same thing haha
I agree that there are too many modern/industrial units; I barely see them, since I finish/end games at the start of the period (usually just end because an update has arrived haha)!
However, I still think some of the UUs need a looking at, even if you are dead set against it Rhye. The Mobile Tower just seems goofy, and the axe man is even worse!
I liked the original idea of the mobile tower; using it as an early game land transport was cool and creative. However, the AI was too stupid to utilize it (who COULD have guessed haha) and it is now an ananchronism. Persian heavy cavalry was remarked upon, as were Parthian horse archers. Even better would be a fanatic unit for the modern era, symbolizing the Iranian overthrow of the Shah back in the day. Giving the Immortals defensive bombard would also be cool, considering that many of the members of the Persian army carried bows.
The mobile tower, on the other hand, was a siege weapon utilized by the Hittites and Assyrians... not a Persian toy.
The Axe man. It just screams filler. Egypt was renowned for many things, such as its amazing irrigation system, its Pyramids, its Sphinx, its chariots. But not men with big axes and a lot of unresolved issues. Thats the Vikings ;p Sadly, I am too stupid to think of something better than zombie mummies right now haha
IDEA: create civ specific workers IE: the Russians would have cheap, slow workers, the Germans would have expensive, fast ones... you get the idea. How about it?
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