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[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by bite, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. TomKQT

    TomKQT Chieftain

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    Aquaduct really isn't valid on that tile and it has been like this from the release. Imagine how the model of the aquaduct would look like - it would have to take the water from the river (which is exactly between the aquaduct tile and the CC tile) and in a circle put it to the CC (in fact to the very same tile border). That would make no sense. The tile needs to have a river segment (rivers are always runing along the borders between tiles) that is NOT directly adjanced to the city center.
     
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  2. Eramas

    Eramas Chieftain

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    That's my favorite thing so far in R&F, I love bread and circuses + Amani combo, it works great.
     
  3. Cerilis

    Cerilis Not Warlord

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    Do you actually also get the "You defeat me"-screen when you remove a leader from the game peacefully?
     
  4. Katakanja

    Katakanja Warlord

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    It would be fun if they'd put some new dialog in to cover that eventuality - "Hey, actually your Empire looks way nicer to live in than mine, can I come live there instead?" :lol:
     
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  5. Giskler

    Giskler +1 Sleuthing

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    The city state emergency rewards are a bit overpowered.
     
  6. Katakanja

    Katakanja Warlord

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    I've seen a few emergency posts on here where only the player is taking part, so there's no sharing the reward. Is the AI refusing to join in for some reason?
     
  7. Giskler

    Giskler +1 Sleuthing

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    In this case the other AIs were involved in wars already which probably stopped them. I had one earlier where Trajan joined in and actually finished it by himself.

    In other news, trading with Netherlands and the golden age dedication is silly.
     
  8. PhilBowles

    PhilBowles Warlord

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    Only emergency I've been notified about so far involved unmet players, and the emergency failed - I'd guess the AI just isn't very capable at executing them and is coded to cut its losses in most cases.
     
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  9. Quis

    Quis Chieftain

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    Yes, in my game I recently had a military emergency against Seondeok after she conquered Wilhelmina's capital. The other potential participants on the continent were Robert and of course Wilhelmina. Robert was Wilhelmina's direct neighbor in the east, but both refused to join the emergency. I was the only one. I freed Amsterdam and returned the city to Wilhelmina. The reward was 5400 gold, if I remember correctly. A lot of money for just a single Player.
     
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  10. Mojo85

    Mojo85 Chieftain

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    Had my first city flip to me yesterday. Scythia settled a little too close to my cree city and immediately started to suffer. I soon declared war on her and handling it easily but kind of regret it because i dont want the war mongering. Might just peace deal and take her stuff but give back the city, it’s tundra locked anyway.

    This is on emperor, might go immortal or deity if the city spacing issue is fixed.
     
  11. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    Combine that with the Big Ben...
     
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  12. Uberfrog

    Uberfrog Warlord

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    I see it more as a revolution, with the disloyal citizens dragging poor Catherine to the guillotine :p
     
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  13. Leyrann

    Leyrann Warlord

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    Nope, didn't get anything like that. Of course, they flipped to free cities at first. Technically, one of her cities had her as second most pressure, I guess it's theoretically possible that she'd come back if that free city would get into rebellion while she'd have the most total pressure on it.
     
  14. Katakanja

    Katakanja Warlord

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    Hmm, in that specific case I can kinda understand why Wilhelmina would sit out the emergency even though its her capital - presumably she had already had her military wrecked in the war that led to her capital being captured. Robert though, he should have been right in there, particularly since Robby's meant to like helping out his immediate neighbours... :sad:
     
  15. CivLuvah

    CivLuvah Warlord

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    Does anyone have a photo of the wheel of time in color? The one you see on the starting menu screen. I kinda like it.
     
  16. Revolutionist_8

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    Is it just me, or the -2 Loyalty penalty for Police State policy is too low? Also, on loyalty screen it shows - I'm assuming it is this policy - "Other effects: -1". Shouldn't it be 2?

    Also, could someone please check if New Deal policy correctly decreases -8 Gold from cities? There is no indication of it on Reports or City screen, and last time I checked it didn't work (or I just overlook it, very plausible).

    Also also, combining Cryptography and Police State reduces spy levels by 4? (2 for each) Or they don't add up? :D

    [sorry for the weird questions :cringe:]
     
  17. Quis

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    Yes, that's exactly how it was, Seondeok wrecked Wilhelmina's empire with Knights. The first 20 turns of the emergency I was busy removing her units from the area of the former Netherlands. Robert should have helped in any case, instead my entry into the emergency triggered his agenda, that I should not attack any neighbors.:rolleyes:
     
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  18. Starwars

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    Just had an extremely fun game as Wilhelmina on an Archipelago map. Played on Immortal. I still hope they will introduce a new mechanic for the late-game sometime, I think it needs extra oomph still. But for this game, all kinds of stuff was going. I have to say that I love the new Alliance system. *Finally* there is a bit of meaningful diplomacy in the game. This resulted in me getting pulled into a war in the late game and having a very epic naval war with Genghis where neither of us got a real upper hand. Best naval warfare I've experienced in the game for sure.
    Meanwhile, all kinds of crazy stuff was going on with India (my Alliance partner) losing cities due to loyalty on his continent when he fell into a dark age, emergencies were firing (one for Genghis and a betrayal emergency for someone else), spies were sabotaging my Spaceport and neutralizing my governors while I kept my own spies busy going round the enemy Spaceports.

    I was ahead in my Culture game though but it was still one of the more exciting games I've had in the endgame.

    Like I said, I hope they will still introduce a mechanic for the endgame similar the UN or whatever but this was definitely one of the most fun games I've had overall (and consistently throughout the endgame).
     
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  19. PYITE

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    preferred hidden agendas

    <AgendaPreferredLeaders>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_FLIRTATIOUS" LeaderType="LEADER_CATHERINE_DE_MEDICI" PercentageChance="10"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_FLIRTATIOUS" LeaderType="LEADER_CHANDRAGUPTA" PercentageChance="10"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_FLIRTATIOUS" LeaderType="LEADER_CLEOPATRA" PercentageChance="30"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_FLIRTATIOUS" LeaderType="LEADER_GILGAMESH" PercentageChance="15"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_FLIRTATIOUS" LeaderType="LEADER_PETER_GREAT" PercentageChance="15"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_FLIRTATIOUS" LeaderType="LEADER_PHILIP_II" PercentageChance="15"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_GOSSIP" LeaderType="LEADER_CATHERINE_DE_MEDICI" PercentageChance="15"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_SYCOPHANT" LeaderType="LEADER_GORGO" PercentageChance="10"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_SYCOPHANT" LeaderType="LEADER_PHILIP_II" PercentageChance="10"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_SYCOPHANT" LeaderType="LEADER_PETER_GREAT" PercentageChance="10"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_SYMPATHIZER" LeaderType="LEADER_LAUTARO" PercentageChance="10"/>
    <Row AgendaType="AGENDA_SYMPATHIZER" LeaderType="LEADER_GENGHIS_KHAN" PercentageChance="10"/>
    </AgendaPreferredLeaders>
     
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  20. pgm123

    pgm123 Chieftain

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    What's the normal amount and how would I go about getting rid of all preferred agendas?

    Also, what do Gossip, Sycophant, and Sympathizer do?
     

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