[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Leyrann]

no one reads civiliopedia

I am living counterproof.

 

[Katakanja]

no one reads civiliopedia

Very true, it's why no one knows about the list. I myself had to be told before I went to look for it

 

[leandrombraz]

I believe they will use all their charges at once on a district project. The Royal Society was made for an easier Science victory since there is no other reason at this point to use them on other projects so late in the game, while the National Museum is for a Cultural Victory and War Department is for Domination Victory basically.
Grand Master's Chapel could be seen as somewhat of a Religious Victory building the tier before.

I didn't test it yet (I'm getting there) but War department should work for religious too:

All units when they eliminate a unit, they heal up to 20 hit points.

Abilities that doesn't specify a type of unit works for religious too. When they say "all units" they really mean it.

 

[Mojo85]

Having problems with Yet not another map pack mod not starting and bumping me back to the main menu. I thought there was a fix for this but can’t seem to find it

 

[Ferocitus]

Having problems with Yet not another map pack mod not starting and bumping me back to the main menu. I thought there was a fix for this but can’t seem to find it

There are many suggestions to this sort of problem in the thread:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/ynamp-yet-not-another-maps-pack-for-civ6.602050/page-121

 

[Cerilis]

How do you change the AI bonuses for higher difficulties again? Emperor and above is just URGH with the extra settler. That and the city state rampage and they already have three cities before I even get my second. D: No fun. Especially when it happens all around me, cutting me short of land.

PS: Is the city state rampage actually a symptom of the extra settler as I assume or are they just more aggressive towards them on higher difficulties?

 

[Athmos]

they were already more aggressive toward CS at higher difficulties, but they become even more so since R&F release.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Aspyr has begun qa work on something for Mac. Presumably this is the patch to go with R&F when it comes out next month. It doesn't have R&F on the build yet.

 

[Ferocitus]

How do you change the AI bonuses for higher difficulties again? Emperor and above is just URGH with the extra settler. That and the city state rampage and they already have three cities before I even get my second. D: No fun. Especially when it happens all around me, cutting me short of land.

PS: Is the city state rampage actually a symptom of the extra settler as I assume or are they just more aggressive towards them on higher difficulties?

In general, they are more aggressive towards CS in R&F.
Quo's mod and (IIRC) AI+ try to counter that by giving CS city walls
and units. (Check, though, because I don't use them.)
There was a mod for Civ6 that tweaked emperor level to not
give the AIs a 2nd settler. Not sure if it works yet with R&F.
Good luck!

 

[Ondolindë]

I am living counterproof.

Second that. Long live the people who read the civilopedia!

 

[Leyrann]

In general, they are more aggressive towards CS in R&F.
Quo's mod and (IIRC) AI+ try to counter that by giving CS city walls
and units. (Check, though, because I don't use them.)
There was a mod for Civ6 that tweaked emperor level to not
give the AIs a 2nd settler. Not sure if it works yet with R&F.
Good luck!

AI+ doesn't give them walls.

I think you may be thinking of the mod Deity++ for starting unit tweaks? I would assume it still works with R&F, but I haven't played with it since.

 

[Ferocitus]

AI+ doesn't give them walls.

I think you may be thinking of the mod Deity++ for starting unit tweaks?

Quite right. AI+ lets them make more units.

I would assume it still works with R&F, but I haven't played with it since.

Nor me. I don't want them to get bonuses like that.

 

[Leyrann]

So apparently, the AI is just straight up cheating.

Last turn, I took the Macedon warrior down to about 25 hp, maybe even less (he had that little that one of my UUs would have probably killed him, and if not he'd have been at 1 hp for the other to kill him, with a +8 advantage from Oligarchy + Deity). He can have healed 50 hp from promotion, plus 10 from not moving, is 60 hp. Which is NO WAY enough to get him to full health.

Also, he did not capture a city with a wonder, his units at the top of the screen are still damaged.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I didn't test it yet (I'm getting there) but War department should work for religious too:

Interesting, I forget about the Theological Combat side of benefits, such as with the America and their own continent.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Yeah,

Interesting, I forget about the Theological Combat side of benefits, such as with the America and their own continent.

Yeah, I had a pleasant surprise when I decided to go religious victory blitz with Mapuche and half of the other civs were in golden age.

 

[WillowBrook]

So apparently, the AI is just straight up cheating.

Last turn, I took the Macedon warrior down to about 25 hp, maybe even less (he had that little that one of my UUs would have probably killed him, and if not he'd have been at 1 hp for the other to kill him, with a +8 advantage from Oligarchy + Deity). He can have healed 50 hp from promotion, plus 10 from not moving, is 60 hp. Which is NO WAY enough to get him to full health.

Also, he did not capture a city with a wonder, his units at the top of the screen are still damaged.

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Did Macedon have that great scientist that gives extra healing? I forget the exact amount, but it increases the amount healed per turn

 

[DWilson]

Did he possibly conquer a wonder?

 

[Zenstrive]

Finally got my first R&F Victory as Poundmaker, King.

 

[ZeroSuitSenpai]

Why are sea resources so scarce in R&F? Like half of my starts with coastal civs have 0-1 fish and that's it. Usually not in a spot for a good harbor either.

 

[leandrombraz]

That sound bug is annoying me so much. Are you guys having it? Music and other effects suddenly stop and don't come back into you restart the game.