Saudi Arabia bans dogs and cats

nivi said:
So, why is it you care about them and not the other 1 billion muslims living in oppresive countries?

http://women4peace.org/women-rights.html

"This is what Imperialism does. It supports the fundamentalist rule in Saudi Arabia, builds and arms the Taliban to overthrow a government friendly to the Soviet Union, arms and helps Saddam Hussein against the Iranian people for 8 years, supports the Turkish military massacre of the Kurdish people, assassinates democratically elected leaders in Latin America, and on and on. That is why US Imperialism has been and is the main impediment of peace and justice for people all over the world."

Not to mention, it is the arms and political support provided by the US that helps Israel to maintain it's oppressive stranglehold on Palestine. I am not saying that Iran is the haven of human rights, but it is far better than Saudi Arabia, which is US supported. Without US, middle east would be a far better place to live in.

Sh3kel, I don't care about your fables. As far as I am concerned, each and everyone of you is a criminal. Including you. You have no right to occupy others lands.
 
Princeps said:
Sh3kel, I don't care about your fables. As far as I am concerned, each and everyone of you is a criminal. Including you. You have no right to occupy others lands.
Are you saying that Sh3kel is criminal because he's born in Israel?

Ain't that bit too much?

Even if the Israel occupation of certain areas could be considered to be illegal you cannot possible claim that every invididual of that nation is criminal.
 
Sh3kel, I don't care about your fables. As far as I am concerned, each and everyone of you is a criminal. Including you. You have no right to occupy others lands.

I wonder why he hasn't been banned for this already. If I said something similar about a Muslim, I'd get a ban instantly.

Another case of double-standards here on CFC? :rolleyes:
 
Winner said:
I wonder why he hasn't been banned for this already. If I said something similar about a Muslim, I'd get a ban instantly.

Another case of double-standards here on CFC? :rolleyes:
Erm, you can use the report this post button.
 
Winner said:
I wonder why he hasn't been banned for this already. If I said something similar about a Muslim, I'd get a ban instantly.

Another case of double-standards here on CFC? :rolleyes:
As a hint I would suggest not to start throwing stones towards CFC standards and moderator actions.

If you look back there has been numerous threads (also by you) that has involved bashing of islam and muslims but since all the religions seem to get same treatment, it might be considered to be OK. Ethnic groups are different issue.

What is certain that pinpointing members that belong to certain group based into their religion or ethnic origin and calling them with names is way over the line IMO.
 
Princeps said:
http://women4peace.org/women-rights.html

"This is what Imperialism does. It supports the fundamentalist rule in Saudi Arabia, builds and arms the Taliban to overthrow a government friendly to the Soviet Union, arms and helps Saddam Hussein against the Iranian people for 8 years, supports the Turkish military massacre of the Kurdish people, assassinates democratically elected leaders in Latin America, and on and on. That is why US Imperialism has been and is the main impediment of peace and justice for people all over the world."

Not to mention, it is the arms and political support provided by the US that helps Israel to maintain it's oppressive stranglehold on Palestine. I am not saying that Iran is the haven of human rights, but it is far better than Saudi Arabia, which is US supported. Without US, middle east would be a far better place to live in.



What a cheap cop-out. You'd make quite a politician with the way you duck questions.

Why is it that you care about the pal's and not any one else?


I know the answer, do you?
 
Princeps said:
Ironically, these rights are present in Iran, which is anti-western... Saudi Arabia is pro-western and firmly backed by US...

Hyp-hyp-hypocrisy...

Quoted for truth. Iran is probably heaven on earth compared to Saudi Arabia, but you won't hear that on FOX News. The problem is that the house of Saud and the house of Bush are way too close.
 
C~G said:
As a hint I would suggest not to start throwing stones towards CFC standards and moderator actions.

If you look back there has been numerous threads (also by you) that has involved bashing of islam and muslims but since all the religions seem to get same treatment, it might be considered to be OK. Ethnic groups are different issue.

What is certain that pinpointing members that belong to certain group based into their religion or ethnic origin and calling them with names is way over the line IMO.

There is a difference in that, you know. I never bash individual Muslims nor I say that all of them are terrorists and deserve to die. I criticize Islam as an ideology, in the same way I criticize communism.

He, on the other hand, called Israeli a criminal only because he was born as Israeli. If this isn't totally clear example of blatant anti-semitism, I don't know how should I call it.
 
Yoda Power said:
I still think it's a harsh way of generalizing muslims nations like this. It's far from all muslim nations that acts like this.
Really? Which of those countries don't act like that?
 
Who has never acted like that?

Uh oh, we're getting more generalistic now, it's time for the popcorn.
 
BloodyPepperoni said:
Quoted for truth. Iran is probably heaven on earth compared to Saudi Arabia, but you won't hear that on FOX News. The problem is that the house of Saud and the house of Bush are way too close.
You must not watch FOX news.

rmsharpe said:
Really? Which of those countries don't act like that?
We all know the most modern and liberal muslim nation is France. :mischief:
 
Send dogs and cats to China!
 
Princeps said:
http://women4peace.org/women-rights.html

"This is what Imperialism does. It supports the fundamentalist rule in Saudi Arabia, builds and arms the Taliban to overthrow a government friendly to the Soviet Union, arms and helps Saddam Hussein against the Iranian people for 8 years, supports the Turkish military massacre of the Kurdish people, assassinates democratically elected leaders in Latin America, and on and on. That is why US Imperialism has been and is the main impediment of peace and justice for people all over the world."
Why the hell is Imperalism a bad thing? Hell, if it weren't for the British, Spanish, Dutch and French Imperalistic tendencies the entire population of the American continent would have been downright 8 centuries at least behing the rest of the world provided the "local" communities would have been eventually discovered, even if accidentally, not to mention the fact they'd be going around using obsidian knives to cut people open and eat their still beating hearts. If it wasn't because of the British colonialist ideology, at least 33% of the world wouldn't have anything near postal services, railways, monetary and judicial institutions and if it wasn't beacuse of Napoleon's drive east - there's no guarantee we would have canned foods, or most of Europe's relay stations and current intra-continental highways. Hell, if it wasn't for the expansionist mentality of man we'd still be sitting around in caves, like idiots, going "yeah... this is kinda nice" in guttural sounds because we'd be too damn stupid to evolve into a functional society. Are you honestly that biased, thick-headed and stubborn to understand non-militant empires are actually a goodthing?

Not to mention, it is the arms and political support provided by the US that helps Israel to maintain it's oppressive stranglehold on Palestine. I am not saying that Iran is the haven of human rights, but it is far better than Saudi Arabia, which is US supported. Without US, middle east would be a far better place to live in.
If it wasn't the Americans, we'd still be buying weapons from the British and the French, and if it wasn't from them, the Russians aren't picky. Neither are the Chinese, and we have a pretty damn effective arms industries ourselves. American foreign aid comes to an overall 25% of our defense budget - which means we're still accountable for 75% of our own military and security needs, and when placed in general terms - is still marginally less than what Egypt or Jordan get from the Americans. We accept aid, that's true, but we hold our own damn fort and kick ass on our damn right. No American GI came to relieve me at sentry duty, and I sure as hell don't recall a blue-eyed Alabama boy being my CO.

Sh3kel, I don't care about your fables. As far as I am concerned, each and everyone of you is a criminal. Including you. You have no right to occupy others lands.
Retract your statement and appologize, or I shall refer this issue to the moderators. I've been civil with you so far, and am giving you the chance to appologize for going over the line. Failure to comply will force my hand to retaliate by lawful means.

Kind of like what's going on in Israel between us and the Palestinians, really. One side is being petty and discussing moot points for attention with the added addition of not acknowledging the other side's legality, and the other side is desperately trying to maintain a civil negotiation without having to resort to actual countermeasures.
 
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