SCH0001 - Learning FFH
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schwartz
King
If you think we can kill Hyborem quickly without having to deal with Rosier.. Then do it, IMO.
Also you could use the world spell for some extra strength/movement IIRC.
Also you could use the world spell for some extra strength/movement IIRC.
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist attacking something... At least our cottages and farms are safe!
If you think you can take him, go for it.
Quotey
Emperor
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Turn 0 (250)
Switch to Optics. Switch A-t-M to Chariot- 60 turns is too long imo. MM cities to take advantage of the Conquest civic.
Turn 2 (252)
Sailing completes.
Turn 5 (255)
Optics -> Math
Turn 6 (266)
Declare on Hyborem. The "exploit" is ado with the high withdrawal chance of horses. An F2 horse has 75% withdrawal, and Orthus's axe gives you Blitz. 2-loads off 75% withdrawals pert turn... and if they die, another unit can take up the axe without using up the 1 cast of take axe/turn.
Turn 7 (257)
Bone Palace completes. GA for us.
Turn 8 (258)
The battle of Dis is horrifying, but we finally capture it (only 8 turns revolt), losing 9 of our best horses and cats.
I had a heart attack when I saw there was 1 defender and no horses in our stack with attacks, but then I saw the adept
Now, Rosier is threatening the RoK holy city, but with cash at 100% we can easily rush a warrior/turn so no problems.
Turn 9 (259)
oh
well the rosier scheme was cool anyway
Turn 10 (260)
Fin. I can't believe I miss out on the GA!!!!
I think we should turn the science back up to 100. We want Astro (requires maths)
So, yeah. Cottage and farm threat again. We want lots of transports rushed after Astro. I know caravels can carry mil, but only 1 unit, so that sucks. Math -> Astro -> 0% sci and rush ships/upgrade horses. Might also want to rush the monument in Dis to start building war chariots asap.
Switch to Optics. Switch A-t-M to Chariot- 60 turns is too long imo. MM cities to take advantage of the Conquest civic.
Turn 2 (252)
Sailing completes.
Turn 5 (255)
Optics -> Math
Turn 6 (266)
Declare on Hyborem. The "exploit" is ado with the high withdrawal chance of horses. An F2 horse has 75% withdrawal, and Orthus's axe gives you Blitz. 2-loads off 75% withdrawals pert turn... and if they die, another unit can take up the axe without using up the 1 cast of take axe/turn.
Turn 7 (257)
Bone Palace completes. GA for us.
Turn 8 (258)
The battle of Dis is horrifying, but we finally capture it (only 8 turns revolt), losing 9 of our best horses and cats.
I had a heart attack when I saw there was 1 defender and no horses in our stack with attacks, but then I saw the adept
Now, Rosier is threatening the RoK holy city, but with cash at 100% we can easily rush a warrior/turn so no problems.
Turn 9 (259)
oh
well the rosier scheme was cool anyway
Turn 10 (260)
Fin. I can't believe I miss out on the GA!!!!
I think we should turn the science back up to 100. We want Astro (requires maths)
So, yeah. Cottage and farm threat again. We want lots of transports rushed after Astro. I know caravels can carry mil, but only 1 unit, so that sucks. Math -> Astro -> 0% sci and rush ships/upgrade horses. Might also want to rush the monument in Dis to start building war chariots asap.
Attachments
PaulusIII
Unholy Warlord
Cassiel
Alexis/Flauros
And that's that.
For the next player: please build a Hippodrome so we can train War Chariots! Once we have them and an armada we're ready to go for the overseas invasion, with Magnadine as well. Once Dis gets its second border pop (which should not be long since it's got a +4
Academy) we have nightmares for the extra bonus as well.Fun detail is that once we have a foothold on the other continent we can 'air'lift reinforcements from Dis.
A bit of caution is necessary with the troops oversea... Yarr! Here be sea monsters!
schwartz
King
Conquest seems to be fitting, IMO. Go for it!
Great set Quotey.
schwartz
Krick19
Quotey -> Just played
Groogaroo -> Up, waiting on a got it.
PaulusIII -> On deck
Cheshiremythos -> MIA?
Diamondeye
So Happy I Could Die
Lurker:
Caravels can recieve a +1 Carry promotion @2xp, plus the carry crew, resulting in 2 carry space.
Caravels can recieve a +1 Carry promotion @2xp, plus the carry crew, resulting in 2 carry space.
Taken a quick look at the save, Just to check our plans going forward...
Gear up for naval warefare, so Astronomy after Mathematics right? I assume its okay to bump the slider up at this point (currently @0%) to speed up research.
Start setting up some hippodromes for warchariots.
I'm also guessing we don't really need to settle any more cities as were heading for Conquest.
Will play in a little while.
Gear up for naval warefare, so Astronomy after Mathematics right? I assume its okay to bump the slider up at this point (currently @0%) to speed up research.
Start setting up some hippodromes for warchariots.
I'm also guessing we don't really need to settle any more cities as were heading for Conquest.
Will play in a little while.
Okay next 10 turns, nothing too exciting happened.
Inherited Turn (260)
Everything seems in order, bump the science slider upto 50%.
Turn 1 (261)
Fiess Mabdon... Magnadine (Yay!) > Hippodrome
Galveholm... Caraval > Caraval
Torgorstad... Horseman > Granary
Graelingvig... Workboat > Lighthouse
Holowell... Huntinglodge (I assume we built this for a reason) > so... Hunter?
Turn 2 (262)
AtM... Chariot > Hippodrome
Nininsnal... Caraval > Brewery
Turn 3 (263)
Maths is in > Astronomy next (6 turns)
Vallus... Seigeworkshop > Catapault
Holwell... Hunter > Workboat
Turn 4 (264)
Conrond Mor... Horse Archer > Hippodrome
Torrolerial... Horse Archer > Lighthouse
Steinvik... Horse Archer > Hippodrome
Didn't realise there was a barb city over to the West... looks like Quotey left me something to kill after all (other than cottages and farms).
Decided to keep it, even if it just helps us build a few more naval units.
Turn 5 (265)
Radonnor... Horse Archer > Hippodrome
Galveholm... Caraval > Caraval
Halowell... Workboat > Lighthouse
Turn 7 (267)
Dial down the science slider to 20%, only loses us 1 turn on Astro but I think we may need some cash to rush buy these hippodromes as they are quite expesive (300H)
Turn 8 (268)
Tongurstad... Granary > Caraval
Turn 9 (269)
Vallus... Catapualt > Catapault
Graveholm Caraval > Caraval
Turn 10 (270)
Nininsal... Brewery > Smokehouse
Despero... Monument > Lighthouse
And on this last turn the exploring caraval's finally find something of use,
Our Next Victims,
Summary
Felt like a bit of a waste of a golden age to be honest. There are plenty of barb cities about, one on our continent to the south west and a couple on the island to the south east, just in case the next player gets bored!
Astro will be done in 2 turns.
I havn't promoted units that have gained exp from the last war, just incase we want the promo's to suck seige damage or need to promote a particular line for our next target.
The caravals I've also left mostly unpromoted, they can recieve the extra cargo promo though which might be an idea.
I only just realised that the Ride fo the Nine Kings hasn't been started yet, sorry I thought we'd started it?
The Roster,
schwartz
Krick19
Quotey
Groogaroo -> Just played
PaulusIII -> Up Now
Cheshiremythos -> MIA? Ondeck?
The Save,
Inherited Turn (260)
Everything seems in order, bump the science slider upto 50%.
Turn 1 (261)
Fiess Mabdon... Magnadine (Yay!) > Hippodrome
Galveholm... Caraval > Caraval
Torgorstad... Horseman > Granary
Graelingvig... Workboat > Lighthouse
Holowell... Huntinglodge (I assume we built this for a reason) > so... Hunter?
Turn 2 (262)
AtM... Chariot > Hippodrome
Nininsnal... Caraval > Brewery
Turn 3 (263)
Maths is in > Astronomy next (6 turns)
Vallus... Seigeworkshop > Catapault
Holwell... Hunter > Workboat
Turn 4 (264)
Conrond Mor... Horse Archer > Hippodrome
Torrolerial... Horse Archer > Lighthouse
Steinvik... Horse Archer > Hippodrome
Didn't realise there was a barb city over to the West... looks like Quotey left me something to kill after all (other than cottages and farms).
Decided to keep it, even if it just helps us build a few more naval units.
Turn 5 (265)
Radonnor... Horse Archer > Hippodrome
Galveholm... Caraval > Caraval
Halowell... Workboat > Lighthouse
Turn 7 (267)
Dial down the science slider to 20%, only loses us 1 turn on Astro but I think we may need some cash to rush buy these hippodromes as they are quite expesive (300H)
Turn 8 (268)
Tongurstad... Granary > Caraval
Turn 9 (269)
Vallus... Catapualt > Catapault
Graveholm Caraval > Caraval
Turn 10 (270)
Nininsal... Brewery > Smokehouse
Despero... Monument > Lighthouse
And on this last turn the exploring caraval's finally find something of use,
Our Next Victims,
Summary
Felt like a bit of a waste of a golden age to be honest. There are plenty of barb cities about, one on our continent to the south west and a couple on the island to the south east, just in case the next player gets bored!
Astro will be done in 2 turns.
I havn't promoted units that have gained exp from the last war, just incase we want the promo's to suck seige damage or need to promote a particular line for our next target.
The caravals I've also left mostly unpromoted, they can recieve the extra cargo promo though which might be an idea.
I only just realised that the Ride fo the Nine Kings hasn't been started yet, sorry I thought we'd started it?
The Roster,
schwartz
Krick19
Quotey
Groogaroo -> Just played
PaulusIII -> Up Now
Cheshiremythos -> MIA? Ondeck?
The Save,
schwartz
King
Whoa.. Where'd Ethne come from, I could swear I had standard settings.. No extra civs...
Guess I was wrong..
In any case.. My only question for Groogaroo is: Did you use Magnadine on the barb city? I hope so, we want him to be buffed asap. (I still don't have my civ PC.. Wednesday is when I'll finally be able to see the save.)
Guess I was wrong..
In any case.. My only question for Groogaroo is: Did you use Magnadine on the barb city? I hope so, we want him to be buffed asap. (I still don't have my civ PC.. Wednesday is when I'll finally be able to see the save.)
No I didn't! Shoulda thought of that! However there are still 3 barb citites close by so we should be able to rack up some EXP for him.1 Decius
2 Tebryn Arbandi
3 Arturus Thorne
4 Cassiel
5 Alexis/Flauros
6 Ethne
7 US
8 Hyborem > Not a Civ
Sounds about right to me, 7 civs including us
PaulusIII
Unholy Warlord
Got it!
I checked the save. Ethne is actually nearly on par with our strength (!!!) but Flauros is way behind, especially once we get our war chariots up. I think the Calabim are best used as a springboard for attacking the Elohim, unless the Grigori turn out to be both weaker and easily conquered.
I've got time right now: unless you guys want to discuss some more, I'll play today.
I checked the save. Ethne is actually nearly on par with our strength (!!!) but Flauros is way behind, especially once we get our war chariots up. I think the Calabim are best used as a springboard for attacking the Elohim, unless the Grigori turn out to be both weaker and easily conquered.
I've got time right now: unless you guys want to discuss some more, I'll play today.
I think your good to go Paulus, there isn't a whole lot to discuss. The Hippodromes I started are gonna take a while to finish so any way we could speed that up would be cool. Seems with our current civics we can produce units super fast but we are actually fairly hammer light when it comes to building an expensive building like the old Hippo.
Have some fun with the Barb cities & Magnadine
so any way we could speed that up would be cool. Seems with our current civics we can produce units super fast but we are actually fairly hammer light when it comes to building an expensive building like the old Hippo.Have some fun with the Barb cities & Magnadine
schwartz
King
FfH default is only human + 5 civs 
Not too much going on until we get some boats out.. So get right on that. Hippodromes and War Chariots are a plus.
Not too much going on until we get some boats out.. So get right on that. Hippodromes and War Chariots are a plus.
silly me... still can't get out of BTS mode
PaulusIII
Unholy Warlord
Ngggh! How frustrating the 10-turn limit on SG's can be!
Gentlemen... after this set we are 1 turn away from a DoW + amphibious landing on either Cassiel or Flauros. Whichever one you want to see die first. Magnadine, 3 War Chariots and a bunch of HA's are on their way to the other continent... woe upon those in our path.
Gentlemen... after this set we are 1 turn away from a DoW + amphibious landing on either Cassiel or Flauros. Whichever one you want to see die first. Magnadine, 3 War Chariots and a bunch of HA's are on their way to the other continent... woe upon those in our path.
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