Sci-fi and communism

[kristopherb]

I was thinking (which normaly is bad for you)why don't tv shows like stargate why don't they come across communist's planets.i whould be cool to come across a communist planet that worked for 100 years,then the team come and tries and fails to get them out of communism.

In first contact star trek when pickard discribes the future it sounds more communist then capitalist.

 

[Kozmos]

Because technology has all the answers to disparity.

 

[Phlegmak]

I was thinking (which normaly is bad for you)why don't tv shows like stargate why don't they come across communist's planets.i whould be cool to come across a communist planet that worked for 100 years,then the team come and tries and fails to get them out of communism.

In first contact star trek when pickard discribes the future it sounds more communist then capitalist.

Star Trek is communist, mostly.

 

[RubricousMidget]

But Trekkian technology (Replicators, y'know?) would theoretically allow a semi-communistic economy without the worst negative effects, and so could merely be considered utopian.
As for the Soviet brand of communism, that is adequately covered in all the episodes concerning dictatorships. The Borg, e.g., are the perfect example of a Stalinist society achieving the highest level of development imaginable for such a system, just without the rhetoric.
The Federation is good-commie, the Borg bad-commie. Is that enough Communism for you, Kristopher?

 

[Swedishguy]

The developers are capitalists.

 

[Che Guava]

Because at a certain point in the evolution of human society, it's pretty much a given that we're going to have to give up a good deal of economic freedoms in the name of self-preservation...

 

[kristopherb]

The developers are capitalists.

just what i trought

Because at a certain point in the evolution of human society, it's pretty much a given that we're going to have to give up a good deal of economic freedoms in the name of self-preservation...

good point

but what i mean is that communism is shown as a bad thing.

 

[Che Guava]

good point

but what i mean is that communism is shown as a thing.

A thing? Are we missing an adjective here...?

 

[kristopherb]

A thing? Are we missing an adjective here...?

your rebeling agiast the moderators
Vive la revolution.

 

[Rhymes]

Because even sci-fi autors don't have enough imagintaion to make communism work as a system

 

[Che Guava]

Ok, now I have no idea what's going on! I'm rebelling? Communism is a thing? I'm leading a revolution I don't remember starting...?

 

[Gladi]

Bright day
You have not read much of Eastbloc sci-fi, I gather?

I have read a fair amount of sci-fi books that while not entirely propganda pieces, greatly espoused the presented communist ideals. Hard work for a benefit of society above all, pooling of resources, meticolous planning, engineering education and personal sacrifice. If that does not sound like Stalinist Russia, well that's bad, and as remedy I recommend Forest from Strugackys, which is picture of Brezhnevian Russia.

 

[Perfection]

They should have a show where Jack O'Neil comes out from retirement to kill some commies. That would be badass.

 

[warpus]

The Federation is good-commie, the Borg bad-commie. Is that enough Communism for you, Kristopher?

Of course a lot of Americans would label the Federation as "bad" as soon as they studied their economic system, since it's so .. communist.

 

[SG-17]

lol
the lantians are commies, they were all equal and didnt go for wealth, each citizen did their part. But the goauld are fascist, one or two control and entire system, trying to keep above, having slaves etc.

 

[LuckyAC]

Science fiction is fairly obsessed with Communism, actually, perhaps because the Golden Age of science fiction came at the heart of the Cold War.

I can't think of any particularly capitalist science fiction besides The Space Merchants by Frederick Pohl (great book).

 

[warpus]

Science fiction is fairly obsessed with Communism, actually, perhaps because the Golden Age of science fiction came at the heart of the Cold War.

I can't think of any particularly capitalist science fiction besides The Space Merchants by Frederick Pohl (great book).

The Man who sold the Moon was pretty capitalist, IMO.

 

[Perfection]

So are Ferengi!

 

[RubricousMidget]

2010 had half the character gallery coming from the USSR.

 

[Yuri2356]

May as well chip in to mention the numberous "hive-mind' nations that exist scattered throughout SciFi. They tend to be a common stand-in for the communist system. (Labour for the advancement of the whole, reduced or non-existant sense of individuality, Control either stemming from a central leader or dispersed across the entire hive)