SGFN-08: Random AWM Succession Game

[Aabraxan]

Which they shouldn't be able to build any more. If you've lost at least one battle to an Immortal and Persia has Feudalism, their production should switch to MDI. IIRC, MDI are more expensive, so that should slow down their numbers.

 

[Sparthage]

A long term look: How about a crusader army?

 

[Bucephalus]

Which they shouldn't be able to build any more. If you've lost at least one battle to an Immortal and Persia has Feudalism, their production should switch to MDI.

lurker's comment:

Are you sure about that, Aabra?

 

[Sparthage]

Will check the editor.

edit: Immortals upgrade to MDI.

 

[GamezRule]

A long term look: How about a crusader army?

We will have had another leader by then. We shouldn't waste our opportunity's waiting for enough crusaders.

 

[Sparthage]

Long term look means in the future for me. Of course we shouldn't wait 25+ Turns for a useful army. But it would be useful (5/3/2/16 HP).

 

[Bucephalus]

Will check the editor.

edit: Immortals upgrade to MDI.

Which they shouldn't be able to do anymore

lurker's comment:

I've just ran a quick scenario where I set-up an Immortal to win a battle post Feudalism - I can still build Immortals afterwards.

 

[Sparthage]

I've just ran a quick scenario where I set-up an Immortal to win a battle post Feudalism - I can still build Immortals afterwards.

Interesting. Were you able to switch city production to immortals from something else?

 

[TheOverseer714]

I'm pretty sure that in a properly patched game, Persia only builds Immortals, just as most other civs and their UU's.

 

[Aabraxan]

lurker's comment:

I've just ran a quick scenario where I set-up an Immortal to win a battle post Feudalism - I can still build Immortals afterwards.

That is interesting. Obviously, I haven't played as Persia for a while.

 

[Calis]

I believe after they triggered a Golden Age you can't build them any longer if having Feudalism.

 

[Aabraxan]

That was my thinking, too.

 

[DWetzel]

It might be once the golden age is actually over???

Also, crusader army... I came.

 

[Bucephalus]

Interesting. Were you able to switch city production to immortals from something else?

lurker's comment:

There was no 'something else' - that is, I couldn't build MDI. Could build pikes, though.

I really ought to know without running a test-scenario; obviously, like Aabra, I need to catch up with Xerxes - it's been too long.

Thinking about it, there is a similar precedent, ie Hoplites are not replaced by pikes.

edit: Anyone know if Egypt gets to build horsemen? (I've never actually played as them).

 

[Aabraxan]

And there's also the issue with Gallic Swordsmen. You cannot build them after the GA.

 

[Bucephalus]

I believe after they triggered a Golden Age you can't build them any longer if having Feudalism.

That was my thinking, too.

It might be once the golden age is actually over???

lurker's comment:

Since I'm such a nice guy, and have nothing better to do, I re-ran the test until the GA finished, and it is as I suspected - Persia doesn't build MDI.

 

[Bucephalus]

And there's also the issue with Gallic Swordsmen. You cannot build them after the GA.

lurker's comment:

Pre-Feudalism you can; and MDI isn't a like-for-like unit, like it is for the Immortal.

 

[Aabraxan]

Well, drat. I have got to find Buce a more time-consuming hobby . . .

 

[Bucephalus]

Well, drat. I have got to find Buce a more time-consuming hobby . . .

lurker's comment:

Mrs Buce tries it all the time - trouble is housework ain't much of a hobby for a man.....

 

[Aabraxan]

lurker's comment: Sounds like your wife and mine have been collaborating . . .

Thanks for helping clarify this issue. Even though the clarification is bad news for the team, better that they have bad news than misinformation, however well-intended.