SGFN-08: Random AWM Succession Game

[GamezRule]

Can you update the roster now, Overseer.

 

[Sparthage]

I believe this is correct.
1: Overseer =>Skipped if in a Hurry
2: GamezRule =>Up
3: Lanzelot =>Warming Up
4: Splunge =>Stretching out his warmongering muscles
5: Sparthage
6: DWetzel

 

[GamezRule]

Then can some one lead me to the save.

 

[TheOverseer714]

I have it, my computer behaved long enough to grab the save and the turn-log. I will get them posted here in a jif. If I can get the files off the damn flash drive...win7 has gone stupid on me and suddenly doesn't recognize my flash drive.

 

[GamezRule]

Overseer, the Windows 7 gods must hate you, cause that has got to be the easiest OS to use. (for me at least, a nerd)

 

[TheOverseer714]

My old civ computer is behaving at this time, so here is my unfinished turn-log, I'll work on it later, but here is the save, I think:

Spoiler :

Pre-Flight: CivAssist 2, Word running. Open the save, look things over.
Looks good, nothing to do.

Civilian units:
Workers 9
Slaves 5
Settler 1

Military units:
Warrior 2
Archers 13
Spears 11
Catapults 2
Curraghs 2

Unit Support:
Total Units: 40
Allowed Units: 44
Support Cost: 0 gpt

Enemies:
Dutch=>Strong compared to
Vikings=>Strong compared to
Greeks=>Average compared to
Aztecs=>Average compared to
Russians=>Average compared to
Persians=>Weak compared to

Hit Enter=>

IBT: Dutch Spear moves south toward our Wine, Greek Hoplite comes out of fog near Eindhoven, Viking Warrior moves to forest.
Leipzig Worker=>Settler.
Hamburg Spear=>Archer.

Turn 1, 350 BC: Settle Stuttgart in place.=>Barracks.
Catapult misses Warrior, Archer takes him clean anyway, 1-0.

IBT: Dutch pillage, didn’t even know the Wines was roaded.
Nurmberg Harbor=>Galley

Turn 2, 325 BC: Ping and kill the pillager, 2-0.
At the Hague, Dutch Archer pings Archer, who loses and promotes a Spear.
Lose Archer to another Spear,2-2.
Then I look and see that the Archer was rushed, so call it off, guess we play chase the capitol or just replace the whole Dutch empire with our settlers.

IBT: Dutch Archer heads north out of the Hague.
Greek Hoplite heads south, warrior moves north, a second warrior appears.
Berlin Archer=>Archer.
Hannover Catapult=>Catapult.

Turn 3, 300 BC: Pick off Greek Warrior, 3-2.

IBT: Dutch Archer kills Archer, then Hoplite kills the wounded Archer underneath, 3-4)
Rotterdam Catapult=>Catapult.
Hamburg Catapult=> Archer.

Turn 4, 270 BC: Kill warrior with rArcher who promotes, pick off redlined hoplite with an elite clean, 5-4.

IBT: Dutch land an archer near Frankfurt, Persian warrior shows up.
Berlin Archer=>Archer.

Turn 5, 250 BC: Ping and kill Dutch rArcher with vArcher,-2hp, kill a Dutch rArcher near the Hague with eArcher clean, kill Persian rWarrior with eArcher-1hp, eArcher can’t kill Greek rWarrior. Quit while I’m ahead, 8-5

IBT: More enemies move forward, Dutch keep popping Archers out.
Leipzig Settler =>Settler.

Turn 6, 230 BC: Eindhoven will not autoraze now, but I’m waiting for catapults this time. Shuffle troops around.

IBT: Berlin Archer=>Archer.
Konigsberg riots, missed that one.

Turn 7, 210 BC: Ping 2 Dutch Archers, vArcher redlines on vArcher before winning, promotes, other vArcher wins vs rArcher, -1hp.

IBT: Greek Archers advance.
Hamburg Archer=>Catapult.
Frankfurt Galley=> Galley

Turn 8, 190 BC: Move troops to cover and heal, we’re starting to get a steady stream of enemies.
Settler positioned for phase 1 of Operation Get Horses.

IBT: Greeks land warrior beside Amsterdam, move Archers forward, Dutch Archer steps out of Utrecht, Persian warriors advance
Berlin Archer=>Archer.

Turn 9, 170 BC: at Utrecht, vArcher wins vs Dutch rArcher, -1hp. At Amsterdam, 3hp vArcher wins vs Greek rWarrior, -1 hp, promotes. At Eindhoven Ping 3 of 4 on Greek Archers, kill vArcher with eArcher, -1hp.
Settle
IBT: See first Immortal, ut-oh!
Persian Warriors, Greek Archers advance, Viking Galley shows up.

Turn 10, 150 BC: eArcher kills a Greek rArcher clean, ping rImmortal twice.

Non-Combat
Workers 10
Slaves 5

Military units:
Warriors 2
Archers 14
Spears 12
Catapults 5
Galleys 2
Curraghs 2

Unit Support:
Total Units: 47
Allowed Units: 52
Support Cost: 0 gpt


Contacts
Dutch
Greeks
Russians
Persians
Vikings
Aztecs

Cities
Berlin, size 5, growth stalled, Archer in 1 turn.
Leipzig, size 5, grows in 1, Settler in 2 turns.(22 shields in the box, needs mm’ed to get 8 shields on growth)
Hamburg, size 5, grows in 3, Catapult in 1 turn.
Konigsberg, size 5, growth stalled, Catapult in 7 turns.
Frankfurt, size 4, grows in 3, Galley in 6 turns.
Köln, size 3, grows in 10, Catapult in 5 turns.
Nuremberg, grows in 4, Galley in 4 turns.
Heidelberg 2, size 2, grows in 10, Barracks in 5 turns.
Stuttgart, size 1, grows in 1, Barracks in 11 turns.
Rotterdam, size 2, grows in 3, Catapult in 14 turns.
Bonn, size 1, grows in 9, Library(placeholder) in 39 turns.
Amsterdam, size 2, grows in 13, Walls in 6 turns.

Sliders
4/6/0, Monarchy in 1 turn at 14 gpt, 234 in the bank.

The save:

 

[Lanzelot]

Looks very good. Progress against the Dutch was slower than expected, but apparently they pop-rushed many units plus Greek & Persian invaders started to arrive steadily, so there's nothing we can do about it...

Two tips for the next player:

• Science rate can be reduced before ending this turn. There's 12 beakers overrun. (Perhaps you can also play around with a scientist or two in the corrupt towns and try to save another couple of gold?!)
• Hamburg has shield-overrun next turn but is working an unimproved forest. Switching to a grassland will gain 1g and 1f.
  As a matter of fact, we might even consider letting Hamburg work the grassland permanently until it has grown some more. Should be possible to get Hamburg to 10spt as well. And finally: how about switching Hamburg to FP now? I checked the corruption numbers again, and Monarchy won't turn Leipzig back into a 4-turner, but an FP in Hamburg would! If we let Hamburg grow some more, it can finish the FP in around 20 turns.

Something important happened during the last ten turns: Athens finished the Great Wall! Greece of all nations!! I think we need to reconsider our plans now.

• Attack them anyway with lots of catapults and archers, before they have built too many Hoplites? After all Greece is a good site for our future core, and we need to have that "liberated" before the advent of Education.
• Turn around and invade Scandinavia first? They have iron, so we could produce warriors in Germany, ship them to Scandinavia and upgrade them there. (Can't trade the iron over sea tiles until Astronomy.) Then ship them back and attack Greece with swords and catapults. This plan will be slooow, though. But still better than a "long-distance attack" on Persia.

 

[DWetzel]

Plan A needs to be to see if we can block off the chokepoint. If we can, then we can either mount a sea assault on the Vikings, or we can try to mount an amphibious assault on the Greek capital with everything we have and either capture and keep Athens, or raze it so we don't have to worry about the Great Wall.

And yes, I know that taking Athens would be bloody as hell. We don't have a whole lot of options, though.

 

[GamezRule]

Got the save, but I have a few questions and I will look at it tomorrow, also, I might be somewhat stalled in playing. (Prom)

 

[Calis]

lurker comment:

You need more cats to reduce your unit losses. As you have no strategic resources available they are even more important than usually and not only for attacking others, as Lanzelot mentioned it.

 

[Sparthage]

...or we can try to mount an amphibious assault on the Greek capital with everything we have and either capture and keep Athens, or raze it so we don't have to worry about the Great Wall.

Burn baby burn! Why? I really have worries about the Greeks recapturing it soon after we've taken it.

 

[TheOverseer714]

Just culture alone makes it crazy to keep Athens, unless we keep researching towards Military Tradition and wait til we have cavalry to go after the Greeks. We definitely need more catapults, and we need the choke blocked. Another thing I recommend is a spearman army as our first, because we need the persian iron pillaged. On the offensive, we need to go after the vikings before berserks show up. We need to play defense on our continent, and get the vikings out before they become a threat on the other continent. I like the build warriors and upgrade them there idea, but getting there will be rough. I think we need to research toward getting iron free units such as longbows and crusaders until we get our own iron.

 

[GamezRule]

I am behind on math with one week left in the school year, and my credits may be at stake, so I might have a slight delay in playing.

 

[Sparthage]

Ugh, school. I have to wait until June 25th to get out of school. Stupid snow. (Something tells me that you'll call the amount we got normal, Gamez )

 

[GamezRule]

How much did you get. (ps: 6 inches of snow at night does not get us a snow day, and in Virginia you people can't drive on snow to save your live {literally} )

On May 8th, we got this much snow (I live in the farthest west red part)

Last year, we got about 17 ft of snow, and this year bested it by far.

 

[Sparthage]

In a week, 3 feet. Overall? Roughly 7-8 feet.

 

[TheOverseer714]

Remember, the east coast got blasted by snow, they called it Snowmageddon.

 

[GamezRule]

HOLY COW!!! THREE FEET OF SNOW IN A WEEK!!!

That's quite common where I live, and this year, we ACTUALLY HAD 3 SNOW DAYS IN A ROW. I have seen a foot of snow get us NOTHING!!!

EDIT: Snowmageddon was a farce, up here it would be considered an economic stimulus. (Think of the snowplow drivers)

 

[Lanzelot]

I am behind on math

What classes are you taking? (I've been an exchange student in the US in 1990-92 and earned fees & tuition by working as a teaching assistent for the 100 & 200 classes. It's been a while ago, but I think that part of mathematics didn't change much in the last 300 years... )

 

[CKS]

Off Topic: And people complain about the relevance of introductory physics. We at least include some modern (i.e., 100 year old) physics.

Actually, the American college freshman and sophomore math classes have changed dramatically in the last 20 years, as calculators with algebra systems have taken over. It remains to be seen if this is a good thing.