SGOTM 11 - One Short Straw

[LowtherCastle]

Yes the galley will be available. I was going to head the galley east after dropping off the goods at sugar. The "gold" settler won't be available until later anyways, and I'm still not convinced we even want to settle it...

If you're sending the galley back east, then the worker can board 1t later (the same turn the galley moves toward Sugar and dumps off the settler). Then the next turn, the settler settles, the galley enters Sugar, and the worker can disembark AND start mining on the same turn. Hence, we lose only 1 wkr turn.

Actually, even if the galley goes west, you could still do the same thing, but then the galley has to backtrack east into Sugar before going west.

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We absolutely want to settle Gold if we can, imo. As it is, we're undersettled for the long run. Poor Mutineer is definitely right in that regard, I think.

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I don't much care for the idea of building our next galley in the east AND sending this galley to the east. Build east, send this one west, or vice versa...So the question is: Where will we build the next galley?

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[shyuhe]

The two options for galley building are either ivory or Rice (whip) I think. I don't see where else we'll have the time to build it.

 

[babybluepants]

I think it has to be Ivory. Rice still needs gran/lib/(forge)/uni with limited hammers and limited time in Slavery. When would we build it, though?

Yeah, I would definitely settle gold(s).

 

[mystyfly]

Yeah settle gold if possible but dont bend over backwards to do so, only if it's settleable with a reasonnable amount of investment.

@shyuhe: I don't like using ivory to build a galley, the city has so much potential but we must get moai done first... I'd rather make sure we get that done ASAP. It may be our shipyard later on.



BTW where are you from, LC?

 

[babybluepants]

where are you from, LC?

I had just assumed he lives here.

 

[LowtherCastle]

USA

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I haven't tested but my gut feeling is that if we build the galley next in Oasis, it'll be fine with granary-lib-uni (or just lib-uni or whatever). Oasis is developing nicely, will have plenty of hpt and stil has a chop.

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I've been to Lowther Castle a couple of times. Relatives.

 

[babybluepants]

Would that include a WB build? We still need a couple and I was assuming 1 from there.

 

[LowtherCastle]

I was thinking finish the current wb then galley. Send the wb to Sugar which builds more. No need for more wbs from Oasis after that, I imagine. Ivory makes its own second one instead of a galley.

 

[shyuhe]

Wow that's pretty awesome. I'll see if Oasis can squeeze out the second galley. That would allow for us to send the current galley west as well.

 

[babybluepants]

@LC,
that sounds fine. I'm forgetting that we'll have another city soon. When should we chop that forest? We only have the one worker, and need a plains farm + a couple of mines in the short term.

Ivory just does granary / lighthouse / forge / Moai then? It would be great to just build up the production infrastructure there without having to contribute to expansion / exploring.

 

[mystyfly]

@LC: And I thought you were living next to me

Spoiler :

 

[LowtherCastle]

When should we chop that forest? We only have the one worker, and need a plains farm + a couple of mines in the short term.

mdy saved the Oasis chop for uni. I think that's a good idea. The plains farm helps it grow reasonably fast, for its needs.

 

[LowtherCastle]

@LC: And I thought you were living next to me

Spoiler :

why would anyone bemoan Lowther?

 

[Mutineer]

Our fearless leader is slacking!

We should apply a stimuli!

 

[shyuhe]

FARK. I was working off my laptop and accidentally moved the Bombay SW worker to 2N of Delhi Uhhh.... stupid human error We are now short a chopping worker in Bombay Sorry team

Revised PPP

IT: OB with Mehmed. Bombay worker (NE) chops. Revolt to OR + Confucianism. Complete marble pasture. Ivory worker mines. Trade clams to Toku.

Turn 134: Delhi grows to 7, works newly completed cottage. Start quarry near marble. Oasis gets wheat, worker moves to chain irrigate. Delhi worker #2 moves back to forest.

Turn 135: Delhi worker #1 moves to cottage 2S1W. 2fish grows to size 7, hire another scientist. Turn research on for paper, will take it to 1 turn from completion. Bombay SW starts chopping.

Turn 136: Rice grows to size 3. Work another FP.

Turn 137: Oasis WB finishes. Start another WB. Bombay chops complete. Marble worker heads towards galley rendzevous point.

Turn 138: Ivory mine completes, starts mining next tile over. Bombay NE worker moves 1W, partial road. Bombay SW worker heads back to Delhi. Bombay completes settler (settler). Settler boards galley north of stone.

Turn 139: Delhi grows to size 8, works newly completed cottage. Galley moves worker and settler to Sugar. Galley then heads WEST. Rice grows to size 4. Bombay worker moves to FP, starts irrigating.

Turn 140: Delhi worker #1 goes to cottage 1S of Delhi. Marble quarry completed. Worker moves to road rice. Delhi worker #2 joins cottaging effort. Sugar worker moves to grass hill (assuming no jungle). Settle sugar.

Turn 141: Delhi completes aqueduct (I think). Starts HG. Sugar worker starts mining. Oasis completes farm. Marble worker moves to FARM FP.

Turn 142: Oasis worker moves to mine hill.

Turn 143: Stop set. Delhi grows to size 9. Works newly completed cottage.

edit: I will not trade for monarchy unless Saladin has a substantial amount of gold we can pick up. I'll pause the set if that situation arises.

The axe will head to the west coast in anticipation of a galley ride.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Our fearless leader is slacking!

We should apply a stimuli!

FARK. I was working off my laptop and accidentally moved the Bombay SW worker to 2N of Delhi Uhhh.... stupid human error

What kind of stimulus did you apply, Mutineer?!

 

[babybluepants]

I think shyuhe's distracted by starting and playing other SG's...

5t late on settler doesn't sound that good to me. I guess it's a total waste of worker turns otherwise? The galley just sits?

 

[LowtherCastle]

@shyuhe: The worker mistake is NO BIGGIE. Nonetheless...

* It is much better to just send the wkr back to chop!!! Settler is still done on time. Delhi will be fine.
* After chop, Bombay wkr STILL goes east to help finish the Delhi mine (1t), then 2SW cottage-->1SW cottage-->Delhi-S cottage.....

Just a couple other points:

* I thought we agreed that Oasis should farm the plain 1S of the wheat first. Then mine. It's waaaay better.

* If you trade Sal Fish, how will you get the silver back in 3t?
* Please trade Toku the clams immediately. We won't need the for the next 10t for sure.

 

[babybluepants]

Let's chop the settler.

I also thought we'd irrigate the wheat asap.

 

[shyuhe]

@shyuhe: The worker mistake is NO BIGGIE. Nonetheless...

* It is much better to just send the wkr back to chop!!! Settler is still done on time. Delhi will be fine.
* After chop, Bombay wkr STILL goes east to help finish the Delhi mine (1t), then 2SW cottage-->1SW cottage-->Delhi-S cottage.....

Just a couple other points:

* I thought we agreed that Oasis should farm the plain 1S of the wheat first. Then mine. It's waaaay better.

* If you trade Sal Fish, how will you get the silver back in 3t?
* Please trade Toku the clams immediately. We won't need the for the next 10t for sure.

Will do. I'll trade away the clams and hold off on fish to re-negotiate in 3 turns. The Oasis worker will go farm after the wheat and the Delhi #2 worker will head west to go chop again. I'm going to start playing the set later tonight with these changes.