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[BTS] SGOTM 25 - Home Slices

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession GOTM' started by AlanH, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. WastinTime

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    I think stacking Kremlin and getting 2 more GSpys from that one city should be good. We could even live with just 1 more GSpy.
    Kinda depends on if our top secret EP plan works out.
     
  2. WastinTime

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    You're saying make color-coded a city dot-map for every AI using alt+x, yes?
     
  3. WastinTime

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    usually capturing it. Possibly flipping the AI that gets Theo to our religion before he completes the AP.
     
  4. babybluepants

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    That's genius!
    I've never used Score from the Scoreboard to try to suss out how many techs an AI has.

    It is shocking that we have so many more techs than they do too. (+10 Classical techs?)

    Here is a wiki that lists all techs by era.
    http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Eras_(Civ4)

    **Edit**
    Ugh, here is a better list:
    https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/bts-technology-eras.265996/#post-6563436

    Remember, Sossos said if we skip one tech from each era, we get 0 Science Bureau points.
    So we have to complete an entire Era's tech list to get the roughly 14 points needed to reach 420 and win the game.
    (All techs in the tech tree to get the full 100 points)
     
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  6. WastinTime

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    T35? borders pop a 2nd time in Bejing.
    We can chop 10 forests = 276h for 717h into Kremlin (with forge, OR)

    before that, maybe 3-pop whip a forge with a little overflow?

    If we get our hands on (alpha or currency) build wealth or research, we can chop everything ahead of time and actually have Kremlin ~T38. Delayed 2t because of anarchy switching to OR, Tao.

    Or, forget OrgRel, Tao.
    At size 6, Bejing does 51hpt into Kremlin.
    Just 2 turns of prep gives +102.

    So, 276 chopped = +648 plus our organic 51hpt is...
    801.
    Kremlin actively working on T36

    We could also manage it without the forge.
     
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  7. WastinTime

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    Communism is +30 tho. And Philo, machinery: +18. So our +126 works out exactly to be our 8 extra techs: Mathematics, Code of Laws, Drama, Metal Casting, Machinery, Iron Working, Philosophy and Communism
     
  8. LowtherCastle

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    All AI city populations are 1, which we know from the Demo screen Population Rival Best = 3000.
     
  9. WastinTime

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    I was afraid of that. Now I can't quite figure out the scoreboard.

    A wonder gives +16. Obviously there are no world wonders other than ours, but there could be national wonders.
    Tech by era is +12, 18, 24, 30, 36

    Land and pop we know are 0 and 3.

    That's it. Nothing else affects score. :think: ah, see next post.
     
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    Oh, rival worst is 1000
    1875 average = 15 population total.
     
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    I updated my post. So English should have 3 cities. Ottomans, Romans 1. Others have 2.
     
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  12. LowtherCastle

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    I'll check to see if we get discounts on any techs tomorrow.
     
  13. babybluepants

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    Ok, I signed OB with Churchill first. One city (I assume Bombay) is 2N8W of Guangzhou, but I'm having trouble locating the capital. Do you guys know if there is some sort of limit on how far we can go with re-base?
     
  14. LowtherCastle

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    Not that I know of.
     
  15. babybluepants

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    I'm stumped. I've tried to very systematically go around the entire map, and nothing.
    I have to go to work shortly. I'll pick it up tonight. Maybe I can think of something in the meantime.
     
  16. LowtherCastle

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    Spoiler bbp's power post :

    Spoiler WT's Score post :

    My calcs show 6 of 7 AIs with Monarchy (Classical) and 1 of 7 AIs with Civil Service (Medieval), corresponding with Romans not having Monarchy and perhaps Japan with CS. The only other Classical techs they might have are:
    Iron Working 10K power
    Mathematics 6K power
    Metal Casting 4K power​
    and bbp showed a total of 36K power available for all AIs, so it could be 6 AIs with Math or one or two AIs with some combination adding up to 36K. Otherwise, it looks like most AI scores are from Medieval techs or beyond.
     
  17. LowtherCastle

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    Can you pause it and upload?
     
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    Okay, the map is 84x52, isn't it? Are you seeing that many tiles?

    xpost: never mind, I'll take a look, have a good day!
     
  20. babybluepants

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    I have some reason to believe that they all have Feudalism, which wouldn't contribute any soldiers.
    That would the following unaccounted for:
    Churchill, Roosevelt 48pts
    Bismarck 42pts
    Tokugawa 30pts
    Mehmed, Stalin 18pts
    Caesar 0pts
     
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