Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession GOTM' started by AlanH, Jan 13, 2018.
Haven't counted, not sure.
I think I found it! And it's crazy. I figured it might be London and in London's approx location. So I looked about 25 tiles west of Moscow and a bit north and there is a green box.
Doesn't this mean Churchill will be crushed by distance maintenance? He won't have SProp....or will he? Is that the tech the English have? Communism.
It's a race to Kremlin! I bet he has stone.
Makes sense that England would also have India. Yep. Very earth-like.
Odd that we're not racing to Kremlin against Russia, but I think it's impossible for them to have Communism.
I wonder... if Roosevelt or others have Communism too.
Wow, massive undertaking. Don't kill yourself trying. I'm counting about 45x60 so I don't think we're seeing the whole map, but if you were perfect, then it looks like Churchill's capital is far away and we may have access to these AIs despite being overseas.
Good work, WT.
Are you playing with or without full screen? I'm away from my laptop right now, but that was one thing that came to mind - I have it turned off. Maybe I can't see the whole map because of it.
Edit: I can have a look later, or you could just proceed with the other AIs?
lol Good find! 25w3n of Moscow, iicc.
Why race to Kremlin? Let 'em build it for us if they try and we take the failgold. We race to beat ass.
In any case, we'll immediately know if they revolt to SP or Toku to Bureau, and so forth. I expect a bunch of revolts to HR and Slavery already. Will AIs revolt to multiple civics? They will, won't they?
Kremlin would end up in London. That's extremely far away, and I presume, on an island.
We'd be playing almost the whole game without Kremlin, or we burn a lot of energy trying to get it. I think having it before T40 is worth the effort. However, I agree that normally conquering a wonder is best. Maybe we'll find a quick way to get London. We'll see if Churchill even starts it or if he has stone. It may be as simple as distracting Churchill so Roosevelt can build it before him, right next to us We'll keep an open mind.
Yes, they do that all the time.
I was in windowed mode, but I can also find the city in full screen.
Ok, I'll go ahead and finish the city mapping shortly.
I did some testing, and it looks like the bomber recon mission reveals an 11x11 tile square centred on the recon mission tile. This can be performed on any tile in the mega-BFC that is visible when the recon mission is selected.
It seems to me that the most efficient recon pattern is 4 consecutive recon missions from one base: 5N5E, 6S5E, 6S6W, 5N6W. This reveals 22x22 tiles exactly, centred on the tile 1S1W of the base. If we can rebase to a city that is exactly 22 tiles west of the first base, we can rinse a repeat for 4t and reveal another 22x22. That is 44x22 tiles revealed in 9t.
What do you guys think?
I don't get it. I can't go 25w of Moscow, only about 22.
Edit: nvm. Got it. I had to change my field of view.
Yea, Istanbul is 22 tiles away.
But maybe wait and see where all the other cities are. We may want to recon farther north and south. Could be something important hiding in the arctic. With the pattern you laid out, we easily get 22, 44 and then 66 tiles east-west. But recon of north and south could get left out.
Ok, so Berlin and Rome are exactly where you would expect. Stalin's second city is Mongolia, located 6N2E from Yan'an. Can't find Roosevelt's capital. Any ideas? I was looking around where Philippines and Hawaii might be, to no avail.
Ok, it's Washington. About 7S18W from London iicc. I've uploaded the file with all the city locations colour-coded in Alt-X
First draft for comments...
Builds: worker for 5t / whip / build granary - timed to complete T+16 at pop 2 with 13/24f in store
Worker: pasture pig (done T+10), pasture horse (done T+15)
Questions: Are we cottaging this city?
Builds: worker for 3t / whip / build granary - can be timed to complete T+11 with 12/22f in store
Worker: farm wheat (done T+10)
Question: if we are rushing to build Kremlin here, do we need to start setting it up already? What does the worker do after wheat?
Builds: worker for 5t / whip / build granary - still need to review tile assignments for best timing
Worker: farm corn (done T+12)
Questions: LH after granary? Do we want additional culture to fight for the clam?
GP: scout blue borders, then head to Yan’an for shrine (archer escort)
Bomber: recon / rebase pattern tbd
Bejing archer: send towards Japan for exploration and potential worker steal?
Yan'an archer: send towards America for exploration?
0% slider on Currency??
Adopt SP and Slavery on T0.
Sign OB with all 6 AIs
Gift ivory to Toku?? I don’t think we need to bother. We can recon his land with the bomber anyway, and he is a likely first target.
What to do about demands?? Good chance someone will demand we stop trading. I would deny all.
Other early game questions:
Espionage target? Churchill?
What do we need to do to connect Guangzhou with the trade network?
Do we want to road to nearby AIs for international TR's?
Do we want to build any warriors before connecting metals?
For now, I propose to play until T11, which is when the Beijing worker completes the wheat farm. I think pausing as much as every turn very early on might be useful, depending on what happens (AI civic/religion adoption, meeting 8th AI, etc.)
Isn't a gspy unkillable? Barbs can't touch it, right? It can explore Japan, etc. with closed borders (as if we need that with our bomber)
It can't get caught in their land, right?
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