[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[Kaitzilla]

I haven't done any city MM or whipping yet but it looks like we can finish Liberalism in 1 turn at 80% slider. 83 @ -79/turn. We fall quite a bit short at 70% so my guess is that if we whip anything we can't get there in one turn.

We have to whip the Forge in Silver. We could probably delay the whip in Clams for 1 turn and not affect anything.

Should I whip the Forge in Silver and see if we can get Liberalism in 1 turn without selling Peter Education? We could also just sell Peter Education for his gold and Slavery 2 turns earlier than we had originally planned.

We can delay the Forge in Clam 1 turn on T153, but we still need +9 there.

Caravel in Moscow huh?
I remember the Harbor was over half complete when he switched.

We should try to make it one more turn before trade mission I think.
So trade our map to get enough gold for 100% slider.
We are 30 short?

Don't put Peter into slavery and anarchy just yet.
If he is in Anarchy our one final turn funding ourself won't matter.

 

[WastinTime]

Peter Education for his gold and Slavery 2 turns earlier

well, slavery is probably a good way to get that harbor before we absolutely must get our GM mission (the turn we need to spread sushi...156 I think.

 

[WastinTime]

I remember the Harbor was over half complete

oh, right. So slavery is not going to help and the anarchy hurts. We just need some more time. It should be next?

 

[Mitchum]

OK, let me 2-pop the forge in Silver now, get +9 in Clams and see if Liberalism in 1 turn is even possible. If not, our only options are trade mission or 50 from Peter.

 

[WastinTime]

can whales or cows do a turn of research?

 

[Mitchum]

can whales or cows do a turn of research?

Yes. Whipping the forge in Silver is the only critical thing (plus the engineer in Science to finish the NP). Other than that, I think we have some flexibility. I think we can make it work for 1 more turn.

 

[Mitchum]

Nope. After whipping the forge in Silver, we can't quite make it unless we build Research in Science and delay the NP...

Should we just sell Education to Peter for 50?

I have to run out for a bit. I could upload and let you guys tinker if you want.

 

[Kaitzilla]

We should probably save Education for the Slavery bribe.

How much will Peter pay for our map?

 

[Mitchum]

Our map is worth 5. I had checked that.

To run the slider at 90%, we're 12 gold short (7 short if we sold our map). Kinda makes you wish Kait had pillaged that hamlet instead of me, huh? haha

Uploading so I can run an errand or two.

 

[WastinTime]

I"m sure we can squeeze that out. What about whales and cows? or changing Profit to wealth instead of research

 

[Kaitzilla]

I think we already used up our beg with Peter?

Try switching Build Research to Build Wealth to reach 100% slider?

 

[Mitchum]

I"m sure we can squeeze that out. What about whales and cows? or changing Profit to wealth instead of research

Yes, this might work since wealth is the issue at 90% slider. I've uploaded the save already because II have to run.

Here is your Session Turn Log from 840 AD to 860 AD:

Spoiler :

Turn 152, 840 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Clams!
Turn 152, 840 AD: Cows can hurry Forge for 3⇴ with 10ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 152, 840 AD: Profit has become happy.
Turn 152, 840 AD: You are the new worst enemy of Charlemagne (was Bismarck).
Turn 152, 840 AD: Charlemagne refuses to talk.
Turn 152, 840 AD: You are the worst enemy of Charlemagne.
Turn 152, 840 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 152, 840 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Sitting Bull.
Turn 152, 840 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Bismarck.
Turn 152, 840 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Louis XIV, Peter, Sitting Bull
Turn 152, 840 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Sitting Bull
Turn 152, 840 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 1 (Science) (5.00) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.33)
Turn 152, 840 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 152, 840 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 152, 840 AD: Your Catapult 1 (Science) has withdrawn from combat with a Scout!
Turn 152, 840 AD: You have plundered 6ℴ from the Farm!
Turn 152, 840 AD: You have plundered 8ℴ from the Cottage!
Turn 152, 840 AD: Louis XIV has declared war on Charlemagne!
Turn 152, 840 AD: Cows celebrates "We Love the Prime Minister Day"!!!
Turn 152, 840 AD: Clams celebrates "We Love the Prime Minister Day"!!!

Turn 153, 860 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Clams!
Turn 153, 860 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Canal!
Turn 153, 860 AD: Canal can hurry Forge for 3⇴ with 0ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Clams can hurry Catapult for 1⇴ with 2ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Peter has 50 gold available for trade.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Louis XIV.
Turn 153, 860 AD: You have plundered 5ℴ from the Plantation!
Turn 153, 860 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 1 (Science) (5.00) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.34)
Turn 153, 860 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 153, 860 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 153, 860 AD: Your Catapult 1 (Science) has withdrawn from combat with a Scout!
Turn 153, 860 AD: Your Musket 1 has destroyed a Settler!
Turn 153, 860 AD: You have captured a Worker
Turn 153, 860 AD: Peter has 50 gold available for trade.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Charlemagne refuses to talk.
Turn 153, 860 AD: You are the worst enemy of Charlemagne.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Sitting Bull.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Louis XIV, Bismarck.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Louis XIV, Peter, Sitting Bull
Turn 153, 860 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Sitting Bull
Turn 153, 860 AD: Silver will grow to size 10 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Peter has 50 gold available for trade.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Charlemagne refuses to talk.
Turn 153, 860 AD: You are the worst enemy of Charlemagne.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Sitting Bull.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Louis XIV, Bismarck.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Louis XIV, Peter, Sitting Bull
Turn 153, 860 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Sitting Bull
Turn 153, 860 AD: Silver will grow to size 10 on the next turn.

 

[Mitchum]

I'm back from Lowe's. What a racket. They are out of the sample size for their stains so I've had to buy 3 gallons of different colored stains at almost $40/each (the samples are about $5). Does anyone need any Potato Skin, Napa Wine or Simply Cedar stain?

We can get Liberalism in 1 turn if we build Wealth in Cows and Research in Profit and Whales. If we sell our map for 5, we'll have 88 @ -87/turn. I'm assuming this is what we want to do, yes?

 

[Mitchum]

I think we already used up our beg with Peter?

I could also try begging from Peter. It wouldn't hurt anything if he said "No!" I know that the AI has a chance of forgetting about a previous beg but I can't remember how long it takes on average.

 

[Kaitzilla]

I think getting 5 from Peter and tapping Cow City should be fine.
Cow City gets Sushi T160, so it has the most slack for us to use up for 1 turn.


No matter what else happens, Trade Mission is going to happen next turn.
We've run out of money.

Don't click the "gift" button
I think I did that one time.

Will pray that our northern navy survives the angry Sitting Bull Galley.

 

[Mitchum]

Agreed. I think this makes the most sense. I'm ready to advance the turn but I'll wait a few minutes in case anyone else thinks differently.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Sounds good to me.

The Oval Office could use any leftovers from your three colors to hide its sh!t stain.

 

[Mitchum]

Pressing end turn in 3... 2... 1...

 

[Mitchum]

Sheesh, I almost forgot to sell our map first. That could have been bad. haha

Pressing end turn in...

EDIT: Continuing turnset report here.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Shame about Moscow.
Peter has been trolling us for almost 10 turns about the mythical harbor.
It is time to take the 1300

Sid's Sushi has been incorporated in Silver

We did it!

SB's Trireme is chasing our galley south.

Huhuhu, looks like the Cahokia blockade might be going up again in a few turns.
This is the first civ game in forever I've seen a city starve down so much.

Just have to keep in mind that Tri can sail in ocean if it is inside Sitting Bull's borders.